Talk:The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks

This Page needs a game template
I've noticed that this page doesn't have a game template around its title. I was wondering if we should add this to the page. After all, It will help to clarify dates and what not. Not to mention that even if the game cover gets released soon we can always change it. Smashbrother101.2 16:27, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * It is because the game has not been fully released yet, so most of the information is unknown. However, once we know the information, we will surely add it to the page.  17:43, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well the release date is really the only "unknown" information, and since the template is built to handle unreleased games and is already being used on Zelda Wii, I've added it. 21:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you Adam. Now could ask you one thing? Could you delete this account please? Smashbrother101.2 13:21, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Why is it that I can't edit this page? I was going to add this...

4-Player Battle Mode

During the 2009 E3 interview with Shigeru Miyamoto, he was asked if there would be a 4-player battle mode, an idea that was scrapped from The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass. He than comfirmed that there would be a 4-player battle mode in the game. Although he did not want to reveal too much information, he did state that when playing battle mode, the 2-4 players would play a game similar to tag, and that there would be no swords.


 * It was protected from newly registered members editing it because of too many people putting their personal theories about what the game would be like on the page. The excitement seems to have died down now so I'll go ahead and unprotect it. 03:51, June 16, 2009 (UTC)

Spoiler in UK Advertisement
If you look carefully at the middle you notice a corporal Zelda in a scene never seen before. The only logical explanation for where that is is the final boss fight. The skeletal figure does not appear to be anything we have seen so far. What does this mean?


 * Actually, that scene is from very early on in the game, before Zelda even gets killed. It's hardly the final boss fight.Ganondorfdude11 21:07, 18 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Is it? How do you have that proof? I can't say either way, bit the fact that it is interpreted differently by different people means that it's not exactly a spoiler. :P 21:54, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
 * It was in the 90-minute Gamesradar playthrough of the game. But it most definitely is not a spoiler. Ganondorfdude11 22:03, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I can't find any thing about that scene being in the 90 minutes. Prove that its there. http://www.gametrailers.com/users/mikegt/gamepad/?action=viewblog&id=492827 Ganondox 17:34, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I noticed something else odd in the new trailer, right at the start of the video where link is swinging a sword, look at the hilt. Now what does that look like hm? So much for it being stuck in Ganons forehead at the end of WindWaker, unless its a 'new' one of said sword. Man, that would screw up so many timeline theories. Noskap 10:49, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Also, notice how in the new Uk trailer that Link goes underwater...Ganon is underwater...on zelda Universe ganon theories are springing up. 14:28, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

That would be assuming that Link, Tetra and the pirates didn;t travel very far before and after phantom hourglass. and I mean not that far at all. Though its possible, the whole Anjean/Tetra theory could suggest that she obtained it somehow? we'll have to wait and see. Noskap 15:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

This needs to be updated
We now have several more trailers/commercials, 2 unmetioned bosses, and we now know what all the items are. We need to update this page and it's related pages. 14:23, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll hope you are working on that. I'll be here catching up the patrol backlogs :p 00:01, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not staying up any longer and won't be off work til late tomorrow, but it's time to move the enemies off of this page and add the categorization to the list in the other pages, or create the enemy listing-something. :P 05:11, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Wrong Release Date
I hate to bear this news guys, but I think there may have been a mistake in the release date that's been posted here for this game. I just went to Wal-Mart and Gamestop to try to get a copy of the game, both said it comes out tomorrow, not today. Someone may want to change this and the countdown clock on the main page promptly, because that date just isn't so according to every store around me. I'm going to try to check another Wal-Mart out of town to see if they give me the same response, but so far, I've had two places turn me away saying it's tomorrow, not today. Has anyone else has problems getting their hands on a copy of the game today? Link87 18:20, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * December 7 is the shipping date. Some stores might not get it until the 8th. Happens with every game. Ganondorfdude11 19:08, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Shipping date is not the true release date for store purchase however. The page should give the true, retail release date on which consumers can buy it in person. Link87 19:50, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * That would be an impossibility, as some retailers won't even receive it until the ninth, and shipping date is considered to be the true release date. This happens for literally every game, as shipping can take multiple days. 20:48, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't consider the game "released" until I can buy one at a store, and at this point, no store is selling the game anywhere today. They all say the same: the 8th. Link87 21:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Shipping times and such vary. Some stores have it now, some do not because it takes longer to ship there. The official release date is the 7th, because it's shipping out to stores today. Ganondorfdude11 21:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I've heard nobody say they have been able to buy one today at all, no reports of any. If that is so and it is available for purchase at all today in even one place in America, that's one thing. But if it's merely shipping out and is not for sale anywhere at all until tomorrow period (as has been told to me at 3 different stores), that's very misleading to say it's released today b/c nobody can buy one today. I'm in Illinois too, not Hawaii. Link87 21:23, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, my friend received his today through mail, retailers aren't the only way to buy a game, just the most common. 00:04, 8 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Never mind, I was able to pick up a copy when I went back to Wal-Mart tonight for an errand. But for the record, only when the game is available in stores do I consider it truly "released" to the general public. Link87 03:08, 8 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, but stores such as Game Stop won't even sell it 'till the release date, which two of them told me was the 8th. EBGames as well. And Target. 03:28, December 8, 2009 (UTC)


 * Exactly my point Alter, the 7th is the "shipping date", the 8th is the true "release date" it seems for most major retailers. I just got lucky and found a store that went on and put them out a few hours early. Link87 03:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Continuity and Timeline Placement
I'm aware that the NOA rep says that the game takes place a century after PH, but how can Niko be alive if that's true? Does it say somewhere in the game that a century has passed or is everyone going by the NOA story? —Uncle Meat 03:48, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, we do go by NoA's standards here, at least for the most part. Also, it's a game. We don't know the life-span of characters in the Zelda universe. Besides, he'd only be around 120- not an age unheard of. But... a source is needed. 04:11, December 28, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm just saying that NOA is known to be just about the worst possible source for consistent statements about the chronology of the Zelda universe. I wouldn't base anything on what they're saying. In my opinion the article should remain neutral on the matter and go by what we can see in the game. Perhaps it would be better to leave out exact years and just go with something like "at least two generations later" because honestly, that's all we know for sure. —Uncle Meat 04:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)


 * You are correct about the accuracies of NoA, but this wiki is based off of their facts. I should also mention that as Zelda has become more popular, NoA has become more in-tune with the original games. The first several games are the only incidences where NoA took large liberties.


 * Before you posted, I had already changed to article to this: "even though Spirit Tracks clearly follows the same storyline, occurring roughly a century after the events of Phantom Hourglass."  This lines up with what the in-game text says, and is thus considered to be "canon". I hoope that takes care of your question. :) 04:48, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Alternate endings?
I just beat the game and so I'll try to keep this as spoiler free as I can. Before fighting Malladus, Zelda asks you what you want to be once Malladus is defeated. Since I'm still a little agitated and exhausted from the battle, I don't really want to go back and choose a different answer, but does anyone know/think that it could lead to different endings depending on which you chose? For anyone looking to answer this: I picked "Warrior" as my answer and got Link training in the courtyard under Zelda's window. Jo the Marten ( Shriek )  ಠ_ಠ  06:16, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The ending just varies slightly from what you choose. Choosing Engineer shows Zelda standing up from her seat after having heard Link blowing the train whistle (once again, you can't see Link), and she will wave out the window. I think if you choose "Dunno" it just shows Zelda standing up and waving. Dany36 06:33, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Alrighty, I figured they differed slightly. Just wanted to be sure. Jo the Marten  ( Shriek )  ಠ_ಠ  06:39, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Hyrule Land or Hyrule Kingdom?
I completed the game a while ago, and noticed somethiong interesting. Not once in the entire game do any of the characters call the name of the land Hyrule, just the castle and the kingdom. Well, they don't call it any other names, but Hyrule isn't brought up either. And before you say that "if the kingdom is named such and such, then the land has to be named such and such", I'll tell you right now, that is not true. So I'm wondering if only the kingdom is named Hyrule, and the land is named something different? Perhaps the land has a name we do not hear in the game, but we may hear in a future game that comes after Spirit Tracks in the timeline. If this is true, then it would follow King Hyrule's statement from The Wind Waker that the new land would not be Hyrule. He never said anything about the kingdom.HyruleBiologist 06:33, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The name of the castle and the re-establishment of the royal family is more than enough proof of what they now call the land, as well as Tetra's statement at the end of The Wind Waker. There is no difference between "the land" and "the kingdom". With any country, the land that falls within certain boundaries is called by a common name. The entire world was not called Hyrule in the older games either, as we saw there were other lands that existed in the same universe such as Termina, Labrynna and Holodrum. You don't have to have the entire world be enveloped by the kingdom's boundaries to be able to call the terrain within the kingdom the "land of Hyrule". As I've stated numerous times, the King was merely stating why he could not go with Link and Tetra, because, as was the case with Ganondorf, he was bound to the original Hyrule and could not leave it. Thus it would not be the Hyrule he was bound to, but he intended for Link and Tetra to be the "seeds" of Hyrule's future, just as we've seen. My basic point is that there is no difference between calling it the "kingdom of Hyrule" and the "land of Hyrule" because both are interchangeable. After all, the "kingdom" is made up of the "land" that its boundaries encompass. And in regard to what lays outside Hyrule's boundaries during Spirit Tracks, take a look back at history: it was only called the kingdom of Hyrule in the original Legend of Zelda, but then we saw that was only a piece of the larger landmass that was Hyrule in The Adventure of Link. Link87 14:49, 9 March 2010 (UTC)