User talk:Adam660@legacy41957735

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Glitch Pages
Hi Adam, I left a response, regarding the glitch pages we were discussing here, which it'd be great if you could respond to. Regards, --Melchizedek 07:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Archiving Talk Pages
Thanks for the advice, and yes I would like some help knowing how to do it (That's archiving my talk page.) Is it simply making a new page, or is their some trick Link to it? Thanks for your help. --Melchizedek 21:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey. I'm not Adam, but i still believe i know how to answer your question. First let me do this.....(Thanks, Ando)
 * SEABLUE254'S HOW TO MAKE ARCHIVES FOR TALK PAGES ON THE DANG WIKI 101 !!
 * 1. Make a link to "User talk:Yourname/Archive description" where yourname=your username and description=a descriptionj of the archive (ex:1, Q1)
 * 2. Copy your current talk page or part of your talk page to it.
 * 3. Go to your current talk page and delete whatever you copied.
 * 4. Leave a link at the top of your current talk page to get to it.
 * 5. That should do it!
 * And, you have an archive! --Seablue254 22:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that Seablue254, you're a good friend! So it's just like creating a new page...I want to keep my user talk tidy, but as Adamcox82 has said, it does seem a bit rude deleting it. So thanks again. Regards, --Melchizedek 07:01, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah....i have a question on archiving talk pages. I see on your archived talk pages, at the top it has a link to your page. I open up the edit tab, and i see this div tag with the HTML attributes you told me about before. Question=How does it say that, but there is no text in the whole div tag that says "Talk page:Adamcox82". P.S. Please don't get mad at me! --Seablue254 19:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Erm, the  bit only does the formatting (size, position, colour etc). The link is in the normal text below: current talk page --Adamcox82 20:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Err, i wasn't talking about the box below it with all the text. I was talking about at the very, very top where in small letters, it says  User :::Talk:Adamcox82 . I was talking about the div tag, because when i get rid of it on your talk page, teensy-tiny piece of text at the top of the page is gone. If you still cannot see what im telling you, i can supply a picture. --Seablue254 20:22, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, now I see what you're talking about. It's nothing to do with the page contents (see Jason's archive for evidence of this). It goes away because you're editing the page, and it doesn't appear in preview. And it shows up automatically on any user talk subpage. Looks like the mediawiki software recognises that, despite the normal rule stating that "User:Adamcox82/Archive 3" would be the main page, this is incorrect, and references instead the correct subject og the talkpage instead in this format. Clever, huh? --Adamcox82 20:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that is pretty clever! I thought that was you because your pretty good at computers! But, however, i am still wondering what the id= stuff does to anything. Please don't be mad!!!! --Seablue254 20:43, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It doesn't have any explicit or visible function, it's really there for convenience. DIV is basically used to break pages into segments of different styles. You can imaginge that having dozens or hundreds of    all over the place would make things pretty hard to read. So they can be given a unique ID to help identify them (see this for more info.)


 * The reason why it's there in my talk archive is because I took the code from the template used on Angela Beesley's page. This template seems to have been originally copied from here, where it was clearly originally created using a modified version of the stub template. Interesting, but irrelevant! In short, the "div id" has little purpose here at ZW because it's very rare that multiple divs will be used on one page, given that everything normally uses either templates or wiki syntax. --Adamcox82 21:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * So if i open up a find box and typedin id="p" it wouldfind it? --Seablue254 21:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yup. Hit Ctrl+U and you can see an example of how they're used ;) --Adamcox82 21:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No offence, Adam, but that was the answer I was looking for! All i wanted to know is what it's good for, and that's an answer! Give that man 10 points! --Seablue254 23:12, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Now i have a question about class on your archives. Not that i'm wondering what it does, i now know that ;), but why is it called "boilerplate metadata"? --Seablue254 12:17, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * This will explain in much more detail than I could hope to ;) --Adamcox82 12:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah. So the boilerplate means that it is finishing the talk page. And metadata means.......that it keeps going? --Seablue254 12:29, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Metadata --Adamcox82 12:33, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Slaps hand to face Duh. --Seablue254 12:35, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
I just caught Roofroof vandalizing the page Valoo. I think a block is in order. Care to do the honors?--Matt 01:03, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * (I'm, uh, not Adam... but I can still say stuff, yeah?) I was tempted to hit the Block button myself, but I think I'll give him one more chance. After all, he vandalized only a single page. Maybe the fact that we have people here that revert vandalism really before anyone can see it will cause him to second-guess doing it. But one more strike and he's out, at least by my book. --Ando (T) 03:16, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Merged Article Talk Pages
There are few redirects with talk pages that only have the noclog template. These are remnants of the merging process. I don't think that these talk pages are nessisary after the articles are merged. Do you think we should delete the ones for the redirect pages?--Matt 19:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The left-over talk pages certainly could be deleted, but there's no real need. Nothing usually links to them, they don't take up a great deal of space, and deleting them seems like unnecessary extra work. If you're really worried about them, I guess you could redirect them to the new talk page? --Adamcox82 19:27, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess we could remove the templates and leave the pages.--Matt 19:41, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Ack sorry
Ya I keep forgetting your right I'll try to sign em from now on.


 * Yeah, 'cept you just did it again!  ;) --Adamcox82 17:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey! Just wanted you to know, we got UB2R-B0T on #zeldawiki! Come see him, just enter the chatroom! Also, if you don't know what he is, it might be a good idea to enter, too. --Seablue254 00:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Reverting many many edits
So is there this magical "revert a whole bunch of edits at once" button that I'm missing or are you just editing an older revision and adding the "Reverted edits by [blank]" text yourself? Still can't believe he comes in here and starts screwing with the Sheik article one minute after I leave. Everyone waits for me to leave to start having fun. Jerks. --Ando 19:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

(I'm not Adam, but close enough ;)) Ok, the revert text magically comes there when: This means that you "reverted" the edit to an earlier point in time. As for a button, considering I'm not a sysop, I can't help you there. And, yup. There are sysop hating jerks out there, i'm afraid. --Seablue254 19:36, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) You open up an old edit
 * 2) You click "Edit page"
 * 3) And you hit save


 * Well, it's sorta "magic-ish"... First, just view the most recent change, or a bunch of changes from the history/advanced recent changes which ends with the Current Revision. Then, if you use the "rollback" button it'll undo every change by that user and revert back to the last version before they edited it, automatically patrolling all the intervening edits at the same time. So potentially some vandal could make 467 edits to one article over a period of several hours, which you can then instantly revert with one click ;) --Adamcox82 19:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * HAHAHA. Oh man. That's awesome. I just used the rollback button to see what it did, but I only did it with one edit. Your explanation explains when it would actually be useful. So cool, man. Thanks. --Ando 19:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of an Image
Would either you or another sysop please delete this image (Image: Halp-i-not-cheezburger.jpg). That image is just not appropriate to be on this site. The user that uploaded it vandalized several articles on the same day. He was also blocked indefinitely on that day too.--Matt 23:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You've already added the delete tag. That's perfectly sufficient. At some point one of us will clear all the content to be deleted from that category; I don't see it as an urgent delete request. --Adamcox82 17:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I see Ando's now taken care of this. --Adamcox82 11:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Firefox
Well, I'm switching to Firefox. Do you have any suggestions as to what add-ons to use or anything? Internet Explorer is mostly crap. And that is as mild as it can be said.--Matt 23:36, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I had to switch just to post anything at all. All of a sudden, about an hour ago, I started getting redirected to some stupid advertising page whenever I clicked "Save Page." On this site! I then said to myself, "Enough of this crap. I'm switching over!" So there you are. Now I see how you are able to catch so many spelling errors. Cheaters... Oh, I guess I'm one now too.--Matt 23:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Glad to hear you've made the switch - until you do it, you never really know what you're missing out on! It's a shame that it usually takes until people get completely frustrated with IE before they even think about switching - I was the same! For add-ons, I suggest these as the most useful and relevant to the requirements of wiki-ing (is that a word?) --Adamcox82 11:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. The undo closed tabs add-on, does it require the beta version? I'm using version 2.0.0.14 now. I don't know if you already have them, but I found some add-ons I think are useful: I guess I should change my userpage.--Matt 15:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * History Submenus
 * 404 : Page is Not Found ? Now it will be!


 * The anti-404 add-on I like. The other seems to be the same as my History is now anyway? Plus I don't actually use the history anyways. Also, you have the same Firefox version as me, so all my extensions should work for you. --Adamcox82 18:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have discovered a problem in Firefox that Internet Explorer lacks. The program is rather poor at handling memory. It tries to store as much as it can in the RAM. This leads to frequent lock-ups. It should have no reason to store 300 MB + in the RAM for just normal browsing -- no games, videos, or major animations. But it does.--Matt 09:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops, clicked the wrong button! Anyway, yeah, it's a known issue. A simple fix is here, you need to type about:config in the address bar and adjust the value of browser.cache.disk.capacity to suit your system. There's another tip here too. That's the great thing about an open-source browser - it really is fully user-configurable ;) --Adamcox82 10:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

You would think that they would program out a "rather large and embarrassing" problem like that. That is a very big thing to leave unfixed. I thought Microsoft was the main company to not care about the quality of its products.--Matt 10:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Mat, you are correct. and I cannot stop coming back to Vista fr these problems. For all of yoY thAt haven't tried Vista yet, *ahem* VISTA IS A SICK JOKE CREATED BY ANOTHER SICK JOKE, KNOWN AS MICROSOFT.Now, i have another example. Ready? *sigh* MSN Messenger won't let me log on. So now, i can't talk to all of you yahoo messenger and MSN messenger people because i "can't have my contact list available." Bull---t. Let's all start looking and Mac's and Linux and Ubuntu together. Next, Mozilla may have left out a big problem,but you gotta remember, they have many things to work on, and since it's open source software, it maybe possible that some like the way it was built. --Seablue254 11:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey
Hey! It seems that there are many un-credited images on this wiki! Care to join me? Maybe we could have a chat in the chatroom as we work. what do you think? --Seablue254 19:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Have you noticed Gnug, ZU, and ZW have been down? --Seablue254 14:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I guessed it was something to do with Jason updating ZU, since both ZW and the satff boards were both down at the same time as ZU itself, and they're all hosted in the same place. Probably nothing to worry about - you weren't here a year ago, when the site used to go down on an almost monthly basis! --Adamcox82 14:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * They were down most of the night. I think from about 12:30 AM to around 6:00AM — that's my time. I'm in the American Midwest, so I'm five hours behind London, England. The error message that was up a few minutes ago said "user.psp." I assume that that was for ZU. Do we dare hope that Jason will get around to the nicknames here? It actually a very simple thing to fix. He must have had the nickname box selected when he was typing in the IRC nickname box and didn't notice. He seems to have busy a lot lately though. Does anyone know if he is fully aware of the nickname box problem? Or that he still remembers? If he does, then it should not be too long from now.—Mjr162006 15:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I be gone
So, uh, next week (June 8th through the 14th) I'll be at Scout camp... Meaning you'll have to man the fort in my absence. Just letting you know so you're not all "wtf why didnt ando patrol this crap!!" --Ando 18:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * This is why we should get a couple new sysops. With four active sysops, (Adam, Ando, and two more) This sort of thing won't be an issue. Am I asking for a good word? Not exactly. I know could handle the job. But I'm not going to beg for it. That is not a good example to set for the others. So, Adam, you'll have quite a week of patrolling edits on your own. Ando, have good time at camp.--Mjr162006 18:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Err.....Matt? We only have 2 active sysops. Ando and Adam. The other two have been gone for a while. Anyway, I can handle it too, (I'm actually hoping I get it, it would be the first important web thing to happen to me for a while), but, as usual, we have to have a need. Hopefully, everyone will hear this, the sysops and bureaucrats will nominate some people, and we will get some more. (Note: I have summer break in about 2 weeks, and I can take the job!) --Seablue254 19:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what I said. I'll clarify, "Adam, Ando, and two new ones". I'll have almost nothing to do this summer. And in college, I should have many openings to patrol every day. I'm just saying that I'm qualified for the job. I'm not begging here.--Mjr162006 19:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh. Maybe we could be the 2 new ones. I wish. --Seablue254 19:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I second that! You two are great helpers on here. (Does this help you guys become sysops at all? = I'm just a fan...(walks away)


 * Heh! It might. I guess that showing the sysops that they think we may be right for the job could help us :) --Seablue254 00:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Archive Templates
As you might have noticed, I have been able to make the first archive template to work anywhere. If might have a few more bugs, but it works everywhere it is now. The second and third archive templates are no longer necessary and should be deleted.--Mjr162006 18:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Done, thanks. --Adamcox82 18:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Quick response. Thanks. I knew that these conditional statements would come in handy.--Mjr162006 19:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

New Featured Article
I just thought I'd catch your attention when you got here. The article Midna now has 10 votes, enough to be featured. Looks like Toon Link already took care of some of the work. I'm just letting you know so you can get to work on the rest. If I put this on your talk page you'll find out as soon as you get to the site.--Mjr162006 04:13, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Google Talk
I believe you have one. I'm seablue254 there as well. --Seablue254 20:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

And your is? --Seablue254 21:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Hyrule Castle
why did ya change my edit of Hyrule castle? it was correct and didnt degrade the site or game in any way.

It wasn't exactly relevant. It should go in a trivia section. I'll see what I can do.--Mjr162006 20:12, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Iy wasn't just that. From the limited visual info I was able to find on the mentioned building, nothing struck me as immediately (or even vaguely) similar to Hyrule Castle. To me, it seems like another case of a problem we've seen too often here; tenuous cross-series references with little relevance or grounding in fact (e.g. "Zant looks a lot like Lord Voldemort" - ok, so I'm paraphrasing, but we pretty much had that written once!) I just don't see it as appropriate, relevant or even correct, so even if it was re-added under a theory or trivia header, I'd flag it as "citation needed" and remove it again when none was given. Sorry if that seems harsh, but that's my reason - for the good of the wiki. --Adamcox82 05:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Captcha help
Is there any way we can remove the Captcha help link that appears when saving a page after adding an external link? The pages content is hardly relevant to this wiki's methods on this matter. More importantly, in is extremely easy to accidentally hit. When you click save page after adding an external link, the box appears, you try to click on the box, and the browser resizes the page -- because it still wasn't done loading -- and the Captcha help link is clicked instead. I always maximize the window and my resolution is 1024x768. That's about the most common resolution. Firefox stores POST data but Internet Explorer does not. It is rather annoying. I think I remember the top template(?) for editing a talk page being edited a few weeks ago. Can this be done?--Mjr162006 02:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Featured Content Disqualification
Might I suggest that you let back on the enthusiasm for disqualifying content? At this rate we'll have no featured content left! I suggest imposing a limit of one disqualified picture and one disqualified article per month. This way more votes can be added either way rather than it being decided at sysop's discretion.--Mjr162006 18:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I think you're looking at this the wrong way. There's no need for any limit on when articles are disqualified. It's literally essential that content be removed, otherwise the featured content voting process would have to be stopped entirely. If you check here:


 * Zelda Wiki.org:Featured Picture schedule
 * Zelda Wiki.org:Featured Article schedule
 * you'll see that we currently have the maximum possible amount of featured content in rotation. It was agreed among all the staff that the system should remain as it is, at least for the time being. That being the case, in order for something new to be featured, something old MUST be taken out. Or add more days to the year, your choice ;) Plus, nothing is removed before there's something to take it's place, so it's not possible to have too little featured content due to my "enthusiasm". An article could get literally hundreds of votes calling for it's disqualification, but until something new got 10 votes to be featured, it would stay where it is. The page exists simply so that, when it's time for something to be removed, we know what it should be (i.e. whichever has the most votes, hence why I'm encouraging everyone to vote - if nobody votes, then it becomes exactly the arbitrary decision you mentioned above!). --Adamcox82 20:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I hate to be blunt, but, yes we do have more space for featured content. Enough for twice as much actually. Right now it changes every two days. Just start making them change every day. Wikipedia has over a thousand featured articles. They don't seem to be bothered by that. Even if we would have to manually change the schedule each month (which is really not that difficult), all the featured content is listed anyway. Featured articles are marked to be featured. If you claim you don't want to do things this way because it is too much work, then just think how much work it is to constantly ask for disqualifying vote. You keep asking for disqualifying votes, why not keep votes. If you meant those as well then make that clear. You sound like your trying to influence the votes. It is not good for this site's image if half of its featured content is disqualified. If we need to set up a script that will change the content every day of the year instead of every day of the month then just say so. I'll make it. I know how. We can have the content loop. I can change every one or two days. Once the end is reached I'll just start the list over again. For me, this would not be that difficult to do.--Mjr162006 20:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm working on the script right now. It's looking very promising. The initial bits might take an hour or two. After that, it will be much easier.--Mjr162006 21:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Done. Now that wasn't so hard was it? We now can have 167 new featured articles/pictures ,if it changes every two days. No more disqualifying just to make room!--Mjr162006 21:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * :o . Did that just happen? Feel free to ban me for offensiveness, i have no choice, but I think that you just lost the game, Adam! --Seablue254 21:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I wasn't aware we were playing any game, I was just explaining a situation which wasn't previously public knowledge. Both Jason and Mases previously suggested to me that we remove older/poorer articles from the rotation. I agreed, on the basis that much of our current featured content was voted for without the possibility of opposition votes, therefore meaning that it would almost inevitably become featured eventually, regardless of its merits or lack thereof. It was a simple quality control measure; the factor of making room was a secondary, logistical issue. I know wikipedia has thousands of featured articles, but they have 2.5 million to choose from. We have . I'd say it's all about percentages. The new templates look very impressive, but I have no idea what they actually do or how they would be used, modified or adapted. --Adamcox82 22:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe that what the "new templates" accomplish is it has a different article for every day of every week. So if it's the fifth week of the year, it pulls out the fifth week's daily articles. I see one major issue with this template, and that's the fact that we don't have 167 featured articles! There would be too many empty gaps in the rotation, especially given that out of our articles, maybe 20 are truly featured article quality right now. There's no possible way we could really fill that gap. The only way I could really see being able to have more featured articles / pictures is by having a new one featured weekly (thereby allowing 52 articles / pictures a year), but that might cause the front page to get a little stale. Outside of that (or even shortening featured content display times to one day per article / picture, but that would require us to have 31 featured contents...) I see no way of resolving this beyond our current procedures. --Ando 22:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't say to stop the voting for disqualifying content, I said that disqualifying content to make room for new content is no longer required anymore. The templates first decides which week of the year it currently is. Then it decides which day of the week it is. From this, a featured article/picture is chosen. It each week flows onto another week. That is, the featured content loops. To modify you just change the numbers. But I'll be happy to make any modifications myself. This gives us room for 167 featured articles/pictures, that's 182 counting what we already have. All you do to use the templates is type either or  on the page. Right now there are no gaps. The cycle loops. If new content is added, then I'll just modify the template to have this one in and change all the loops. For me, that's child's play.--Mjr162006 22:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't see us using up the 167 more spots anytime soon.--Mjr162006 22:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Matt, i agree wholeheartedly. --Seablue254 00:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I know we're still trying to figure out what to do here. So I suggest to not disqualify anything and to not make anything featured for the time being. Just until we can decide what we should go with. Either way, it would be a good choice to keep the disqualifying voting going. I was thinking about this yesterday. So I want to the Master Sword article. I took a long look at it. I said to myself, "Why was the only opposition vote from someone who didn't understand the page. There are real problems here! There are almost no sources and there are a few inaccuracies." So I set about fixing the page. Now the article is up to featured quality. We were too quick to vote it in. If we go with my system, then we might work the disqualifying slightly differently So far the only disqualified articles are generics that were beyond saving. If an article nominated for disqualification has a fixable problem, and the problem is then fixed. the disqualification nomination is then null and void. This has happened once already. The Link article was nominated to be disqualified. After a time I found the exact problems and fixed them. The complaints about the Link article for disqualification are no longer valid. Therefore that nomination should be canceled. How about we give this new system of mine a test-run? We'll never know unless we try. We can always change it back later.--Mjr162006 07:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

The Game

 * Because keeping it in the above section just seemed silly!

Adam, to lose the game is to mess up badly. In fact the game has rules. Because i mentioned it, everyone who just read that is playing it. You can't win, only lose. Everytime you remember The Game you lose it. So i effectively had you play the game and lose it. The reason i did that is because you just got beaten by Matt. Don'y be mad, Matt lost too. I mentioned it, he started playing, and he lost. If any of this confuses you, you can also ask Ando, he's playing it and knows the rules. (Note: YA'LL JUST LOST THE GAME! *SLAPS KNEE*)--Seablue254 00:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That's... not how you play. Basically, everyone is playing the game. Always. But if you think about the game, you lose. So as long as you're not thinking about the game, you're winning. So "You Lost The Game" is the ultimate way to annoy anyone who knows what you're talking about. I can't find the original web site, but it's around these internets somewhere.
 * Sorry for clogging up your talk page with this, Adam, I just felt that it had to be said. :P --Ando 00:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * All I was thinking about was how bad it would looked to have a ton of disqualified pages and only fifteen featured. It would have been very bad for the Wiki. I'm not really following what you two are saying. So I'll just roll my eyes a few times and go work on something else tonight. My fingers do hurt a little from making those templates.^_^--Mjr162006 00:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

The Game is something totally un-related, Matt, don't worry. I really have no idea how Seablue was using it. :/ It was started a few years back... Like I said, I can't find the web site (Googling "The Game" just gets me some movie or something by that name), but it's out there somewhere. --Ando 01:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)