Talk:Carnival of Time

Move
Wow, this is embarrassing. Turns out that I'm the one that made the original move from "Carnival of Time" to "The Carnival of Time". My basis for doing so was quotes from the text dump that I'd accidentally taken out of context. Please, move this all you wish. Erm, at least, to the proposed title. 01:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Can I move it? I usually am not able to whenever the target page already exists. 01:30, July 21, 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a redirect. I don't think taking out the text work. Ando, if you can perform for us that sysop delete power, would you please. *Starts a drum roll*. 01:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I just moved the page despite the redirect page existing. Unless this is an admin-only option...? 01:46, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't know. If the redirect page exists, then sometimes it would still work and sometimes it would not. At first I thought it was because it was previously moved from that page, but that does not seem to be the case. It appears to be completely random. 01:50, July 21, 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't you just have to delete the Carnival of Time Page? 01:59, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, I moved TCoT to CoT over the redirect, meaning that I just said "Hey, I want TCoT to go to CoT even though there's already a redirect page there" and it said "okay then". Apparently Matt has had times where it's said "umm NO" though, so I'm not quite sure. 02:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * OHHHHHH. Ando, you idiot.
 * I just realized why it wasn't working for you guys. In order to move a page over a redirect, it gives you an option to make sure you want to do it: "This page already exists. Do you want to delete the target page and move this to it?" So that would explain it. You need page-deletion powers; otherwise you'll have to do a manual move. 02:34, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * That still doesn't explain why I was able to get some moves to work with existing redirects and some I could not. The one that was not able to move today I marked with the Move template. They are listed here. I also marked ones that I thought should be moved, but should be discussed first. 02:44, July 21, 2008 (UTC)

Probably because this page technically wasn't a redirect anymore. Sea had removed all of the text, making it a blank page. Blank page =/= redirect. 02:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Those pages that I moved that say "over redirect" were normal redirects, not blank pages. 02:49, July 21, 2008 (UTC)


 * I... know? That's the point I was trying to make. That the Carnival of Time page wasn't a redirect anymore, so it was treating it differently.
 * I just moved Jars to Jar to see what would happen, and it left out an option that I was given for the Carnival of Time move. I can't remember what that option was, though. Means that the Wiki treats over-redirect moves differently. 02:51, 21 July 2008 (UTC)