Talk:Goddess of Time

Ok, now
The ashes have cooled and I think the Edit War, or dispute is over. The page seems fairly neutral to me and the candidates all fall under the theory tag to indicate nothing had been confirmed ingame. Also the candidates' sections are ranked by likely-ness. And the 4th Goddess is represented as well. This reflects the fan base opinion. Now I'll admit that fans are usually Nayru-4th Goddess-Farore but to match canon the 4th Goddess is demoted. Seems fair to me. I'm going to protect the archive page, to make sure no one responds to anything there. 04:59, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure to have really understand, but how can the fourth Goddess being not canon?? In Majora's Mask, the Goddess of Time is never referred to be a Goddess already known in the series. Jeangabin 10:01, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

(Un)real?
I'm not sure if this is a widespread theory (I've only ever heard some of my friends and other kids at my school discuss it), but might it be possible that the Goddess of Time doesn't exist at all anymore, if she ever did? The Ocarina of Time is what allows Link to travel back through time, and it is hypothesized to be made of Timeshift Stones, so it could hypothetically have been the only thing necessary to invoke time travel. I already put this idea up on the Hylia page, and no one's taken it down yet, but still, I thought I'd ask just to be safe! Setras 03:07, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * It's interesting that, though you likely accept the existence of Din, Nayru, and Farore, who are all widely worshiped in Hyrule, that you would believe another, yet unnamed, goddess they worship does not exist. It doesn't prove or disprove your theory, but it seems incongruous. On the other hand, if she doesn't exist, does your theory extend to all the goddesses? I don't think this has much of a place on the page. It's questioning whether she exists at all, but with absolutely no basis for such belief, as most every other divine being has been proven to exist thus far. KafeiDallab 05:14, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, with this same logic are the Goddesses able to utilise their powers while the Triforce is separated and not in the Sacred Realm? As the three pieces represent their power (Courage, Power and Wisdom) are they able to conjure any effect on the Hyrulean plane while their powers are not in their domain? If there was a fourth Goddess and they are able to be stripped of their power, the Ocarina of Time would be the way of doing so. Although their intentions are probably for the greater good, and are willing to sacrifice their powers. Although, after the events of OoT the Goddesses flood Hyrule and the Hyrule Historia says that the three holders of the Triforce always had them as they were destined to.. Or something like that, I haven't read it yet unfortunately.--Smighty 05:27, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm personally of the idea that Hylia was the Goddess of Time (for reasons I explain in more detail on the page), in which case she most likely wouldn't exist anymore (her mortal incarnation having died a few decades or so after Skyward Sword). It's also noteworthy that, in Spirit Tracks, the Gorons pray to a Mountain Goddess who may or may not exist and is attributed to eruptions caused by Cragma. So it's also possible, however unlikely, that the Goddess of Time was invented. Setras 13:03, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Theory Section Trimming
I wanted to get some feedback on this train of thought. There's a lot of information in the theory section, which isn't necessarily bad. But the theory section kind of dwarfs the actual in-game information we have. Do we really need sections devoted to each possible candidate and each possible association? It seems a little over the top to list each possibility, and the reasons behind each possibility, in individual sections, to me. I mean, this isn't a fanon wiki. Our first responsibility is to the facts, and major theories about things that aren't explicitly stated can be covered, but not necessarily at length like this (for example, on the Stone Tower and Ikana Kingdom articles, the Stone Tower of Babel theory is only mentioned briefly and linked to, not covered extensively). Do we really need to list all the arguments for each possibility (when, lets be honest, most of them are unlikely)? 17:08, 9 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Another option would be to create a sub-page for theories, as was done for the Sheikah article.


 * As a side note, when we changed the notice templates and gave them a hide/show function, part of the plan was to make it so that users could choose in their preferences to have theories, non-canon, and/or spoilers hidden by default. That way they'd never see any of that content if they didn't want to. Unfortunately, Abdullah stopped being active so that didn't end up happening. 18:53, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Suggestion
The MM quote seems to have a much stronger connection with the Temple of Time, and thus Hylia, while the OoA mention is associated with Nayru through her oracle. Furthermore, there's two Temples of Time -- one in which Hylia is strongly associated, and one which was originally in the Lanayru region. Is it possible that "Goddess of Time" may be an epithet for both goddesses?KrytenKoro (talk) 02:26, 31 January 2014 (UTC)