Talk:Tingle

Incomplete
This article doesn't talk about his appearances in Oracle of Seasons, Four Swords Adventures or Tingle's Balloon Fight. I'd change it, but I'm too lazy.


 * This aricle is incomplete, as it doesn't describe his appearance in OoS, FSA, his own games, or his minor cameo in Phantom Hourglass.
 * Yes, Tingle has a PH cameo. It's in the first Islands milk bar, there's a crayon drawing of his face on the wall by the old man.


 * Feel free to add to it where you see fit. --Adam 15:19, 18 October 2007 (EDT)

Race
What does "originally human" mean?131.174.184.213 06:30, 1 November 2007 (EDT)


 * It was changed from "Hylian???" (pretty inaccurate) to "Human in Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland. Otherwise unknown." (really long). It's stated here that Uncle Rupee turns him into a special kind of being called a Tingle, but he started off as a middle aged human man. Hence originally human (now a Tingle). --Adam 14:37, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

Ah, so that's it. I have played the game and a Tingle is not a race/species on its own. It's more of a state of being, like a curse. He's still a Human. If anything, human would be enough, but I'm a little hesitant to say he's one always. Malon for instance is always a Hylian except in the case of Oracle of - games, in which she is a Human. We don't get to see Tingle's ears in any other game, so we can't be sure.213.17.22.115 15:39, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

i agree. he is definetally hylian.--Claire 21:42, 10 December 2007 (EST)

have you seen the picture of tinglr after becoming "a tingle", he doesn't has pointed ears, he could be something like an ordonian.--Bistian

"Okay" pic
Okay, not only does it throw off the gallery sizing, but it honestly isn't funny, at all. We already have a pic of him from Rupee-land, and "Okay..." isn't really a snark. Also, it doesn't even make sense - what's so weird about that picture? He's just standing there. I would think the balloon or dancing ones would be considerably weirder.

Basically: It's not a snark, it's just a mess.KrytenKoro 20:50, 27 November 2007 (EST)

Pretty much like the pic of Tingle's trophy in SSBB. It's not funny and highly irritating to read. The picture should not be removed though, as Tingle is the fourth most prominent character in the series and deserves his own complete gallery. IfIHaveTo 01:36, 28 November 2007 (EST)
 * You mean the one right above the gallery? Go ahead and remove that, I added it to try to appease the guy who was demanding humor. However, for a "complete gallery" - there's already two pics of him from that game, and the "Okay..." one doesn't even look all that different from the other one where he's striking a pose. Plus, it throws off the gallery size.KrytenKoro 05:49, 29 November 2007 (EST)


 * Yeah, now only if it wasn't protected, I might've changed it already instead of complaining. ;) Why was this protected in the first place? As for the gallery issue, mind counting how many images from the same game are here? It's unfair to deny Tingle a completed gallery. There's still some artwork not in the gallery, so I'll add those when the page is unprotected again, to make the gallery look better. IfIHaveTo 10:51, 29 November 2007 (EST)


 * The article is now un-protected. The gallery should include every image of a decent quality; we don't subscribe to any of Wikipedia's policies on the use of images here. And no more edit warring, or i'll lock the page again! Be good, kids :) --Adam 14:12, 29 November 2007 (EST)

You people never give up. Like Green Tunic said that picture has been that way for ever. How can people be so sensitive about a dwarf that thinks he's a fairy and stays suspended in the air by a baloon. I'll leave the picture alone. Though I will say AdamCox must be realy forgiveing to unblock the article...go right ahead and flame me unlike you guys I'm not sensetive. Link hero of light A.K.A The guy who demands humor
 * The problem is not that humor isn't allowed, and its not that he needs a complete gallery. Its essentially the same picture as the other one, throws off the sizing of the gallery, and isn't a snark in any way. Besides, the whole point of a "snark" is to not be pissy if someone changes it. If you found other pictures of him, even if from the same game, that were actually illustrating something different, fine. If you added more images to properly size the gallery, fine. But whining about how its "been like that forever" (when that's because you keep reverting anyone who tries to change it) only serves to increase the annoyingness of the image.
 * And on a side note, trying to "subtly" insult others only increases the annoyingness tenfold.KrytenKoro 11:31, 3 December 2007 (EST)

Green Tunic is the one that said it's that way for ever not me, I was only trying to show you that a more respected member of the wiki agrees with what I was trying to do. Also, the edit war is over, you no longer have to attempt to add humor, but thank you for trying.--Link hero of light 20:04, 3 December 2007 (EST)
 * ...whether or not he said it that way, you used it as a reason for keeping it...and its been like that "forever" because it keeps being reverted.KrytenKoro 01:01, 4 December 2007 (EST)


 * I guess some people just have to have the last word in an argument ;) --Adam 01:53, 4 December 2007 (EST)


 * I'm sorry, I cannot let this go. IfIHaveTo, Tingle is not the 4th most prominent character in the series after Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf. There are dozens of enemies with more appearances. Even Epona has an equal number of appearances. In my opinion, Impa is the 4th most prominent. --Hero of Phantoms (talk) 02:46, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Kooloo-Limpah
The page suggests to merge with Kooloo-limpah witch may be smart as Kooloo-limpah is a small article. ?Dekuta 15:06, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * What the crap are you talking about? 15:24, October 26, 2008 (UTC)

Popularity of Tingle in Japan
The section "Reception" implies that Tingle was very popular in Japan and so they developed games starring this character.
 * "...but in Japan, Tingle has a huge following, which resulted in the development of two spin off games featuring Tingle as their star (see above)."

However, the interview on Nintendo of Europe's official website says something different, if I understand right. The following lines are key:
 * "A little while before we started this project, I was talking with my boss at that time, saying; 'Nintendo will need to consider promoting other characters than Mario and Link."
 * "I believed there was a chance his public image could be changed from unfavourable to favourable depending on what kind of game we made, so I took a risk and chose him, despite knowing he was not liked by the people - especially in the US."

Doesn't that mean he was not even much liked in Japan, but Vanpool and Nintendo tried to change Tingle's image with TRR? Anyway, they hadn't to take a risk if Tingle really had a "huge following." By the way, I read that Tingle was voiced by designer Kazuyuki Kurashima in TRR (still claimed to be "Unknown" in the article), but a reliable source is needed (not Wikipedia). And why does this article have just a few views (less than 1000)? --Grandy02 17:59, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Theory
I have a theory that it is perfectly plausable that every single tingle seen in each game is in fact the exact same person, because after being cursed by Uncle Rupee, he was made that he could take lots of physical damage but only die if he lost all his Rupees, so prehaps he was made immortal as long as he has rupees on his person. Also after Uncle Rupee was defeated he couldn't have made any more tingle people anyway right?- User:Zedxclon


 * 1 Tingle is the running assumption. But those are excellent counterpoints to the multi Tingle theory. Feel free to add in the info as counterpoints and not a whole new theory section. 11:27, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Creator of Tingle
Who created Tingle? Well, during this interview by Nintendo of Europe, Kensuke Tanabe (producer of Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland) said that Tingle "was created in a very relaxed manner by a character designer at EAD, who was also in charge of character design of F-Zero and Star Fox." This description would fit with the designer Takaya Imamura, who served as the art director of Majora's Mask (Tingle's debut) and did indeed design the original F-Zero and Star Fox characters. Furthermore, Imamura's name appears under "Very Special Thanks" in the credits of Rosy Rupeeland. So, is this interview a definite answer on Tingle's creator or would it be too speculative? --Grandy02 13:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay.... Theory
This doesn't support the tingle in hyrule, but the original tingle in termina... Okay so termina is a world based off of Link's past memories and what if tingle was Mido... This is regarless to the Rosy Rupeeland tingle, this is just the Termina tingle. There is no evidince to this, its merely hypothetical. I mean think of it, Mido hates being a Kokori, wears green cloths (although the other kokori do aswell), is jelous of link but maybe he is just jelous of Navi for getting to if not being the hero of time get to be with him. If it is true, it would make sence that tingle wants to be a fairy to be with the hero of time. But why is tingle 35? It is becuase there are no kokori in Termina, so mido must have been transferred into Terminian form. Mido is also known to be immature and wants to be known for something, much like tingle. Which would explain why tingle created his magic words. Some may say, "regardless of all that, tingle is not mido and will never be". You may also ask, "What proof do you have?" Well, what proof do you have that im wrong too? This is neither confirmed nor disprooved. I don't think we should mention this on a page, but if it really is a possibility, we should mention this 'Okay....'-ish theory. -- կրակ (խոսել) -- 06:29, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I think you are confusing Link's Awakening where the island that the game takes place on is the dream of the Wind Fish and took parts of (presumibly ALttP) Link's memories to make some inhabitants. Majora's Mask is set in the Parallel dimention of Termina so there are differerent versions of the same people but also a few new ones like Tingle and Kafei. Also the burden of proof is on the person suggesting something that goes against the rational explaination, not on someone else to disprove it. PureLocke 21:30, 3 June 2010 (UTC)


 * What evidence do you have that Mido hates being a Kokiri? He acts as the boss of them and just doesn't like Link because he doesn't consider Link a true Kokiri. --Hero of Phantoms (talk) 02:52, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Tingle's Father and the Pictograph box
Don't you think there is a link between the facts: Tingle's Father runs the Swamp Pictograph Contest in Majora's Mask and Tingle was in jail for stealing a Picto Box in The Wind Waker. Jeangabin 19:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Unlikely, because MM and TWW happen in different timelines (not to mention that the time gap between OOT and TWW is much longer than between OOT and MM). Also, Jeangabin, you forgot to sign . Oh, never mind, you already did so =). --K2L 19:06, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * And Termina is a parallel universe to Hyrule anyway, is it not? So unless Tingle is a multidimensional immortal... Wait... You don't suppose... he is, do you?! O_O 21:22, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It could be something linked to their family. If Tigle have a Hyrulean couterpart, they probably have the same genes (since they'd probably have the same appearance) which influence their behavior. You know, it's genetic, something that can't be explained ^^ Jeangabin 07:46, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Well being unendingly creepy seems to be an requirement for multidimentional powers. PureLocke 17:23, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Tingle's Dream?
In the Majora's Mask paragraph, it says that Tingle is obsessed with his "dream of becoming a fairy." When did he ever say he wanted to become one? He says he's the reincarnation of one, and that he's sad he doesn't have one, and that he's waiting to get one, but not that he wants to be one, that I can tell. Can anyone varify? 16:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It depends on the adaptation. Someone should check the original one to settle this. Jeangabin 08:32, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


 * The best I can remember he does say he is a reincarnation of one, but other characters(like his father just say that he chases fairies/wants to get one, I'd chock it up to translation error or the writers not talking to each other. PureLocke 17:11, 1 July 2010 (UTC)


 * And besides, this wiki is for the English translation of the game, and doesn't necessarily kowtow every time the Japanese version says something that is seemingly contradictory. At least, not that I've seen. 20:08, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks?
Well, practically Tingle doesn't make an appearance as a character in those two games, but he IS seen (poster) in some shops. So what do you think guys? :) --Isamisa 15:16, 8 August 2010 (EDT)
 * It's only a cameo, Mario is also seen in A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time (portraits). He doesn't have a 3D model in those games and Link cannot interact with him. These appearances are already mentioned on trivia. Jeangabin 15:33, 8 August 2010 (EDT)

Thanks for the reply :), I'm new so I'm kinda knowing what to put and not what to put xD --Isamisa 16:09, 8 August 2010 (EDT)
 * No problem :) Jeangabin 16:34, 8 August 2010 (EDT)

Possible theory?
I was reading the ??? page and noticed this in the references-" 'Heh heh. Thank you. To tell you the truth, I used to be a thief in the Light World... some of my fellow thieves went into hiding because they were afraid of being caught. One of them was a master locksmith, but now he is hiding the fact that he was a thief... by pretending to be a strange middle-aged guy! Ha ha ha...' — Strange Creature (A Link to the Past)" Could it be possible the locksmith is tingle? He is a strange middle-aged guy... This could be backed up by the fact that in Wind Waker he is accused of stealing a pictobox, which coincidentally is in a hidden room in the jail. Assuming it was recently stolen when he was put in there, no one would have had a chance to put the pictobox in the hidden room. I heard (sorry haven't played it and also couldn't find a source) that in four swords he also attempts to steal your rupees.--Joshduman 22:38, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Droppo
Could Tingle have been inspired by Droppo from Santa Claus Conquers the Martians? Bolero of Fire 21:13, 17 December 2011 (EST)

Realistic Tingle
I heard that Japan maintained the character of Tingle in TTP. Is there a character model change or does he look exactly the same? Also, it would be interesting to hear the comparison of text each one shares? as the western one is deemed aggressive.--Smighty 01:23, 1 May 2013 (UTC)


 * TTP? You mean TP? If so then you may be thinking of Purlo. 11:49, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Only one Tingle, but wait...
We see that Uncle Rupee only made ONE Tingle, and that the ability to make Tingles was lost after Uncle Rupee was defeated. We now look and see which games Tingle appeared in...

1. Minish Cap is the earliest game on the timeline with Tingle in it

2. Now we have a split in the timeline that splits into THREE separate timelines... But Tingle is in all 3!

2A. Majora's Mask is the game that exists right after Ocarina of Time, where the split occurs, on the child timeline. Tingle's first game appearance was in this game, but that is not all, his father's was as well. We also know that in this game Tingle is 35 years old, not old enough to have been in Minish Cap... or was he? I will get to that later.

2B. Tingle makes a grand appearance in The Wind Waker on the adult timeline. He is also said to be 35 years old, but wait... Once again that is to old for the Tingle from Minish Cap, but he is also to old to be the Tingle from Termina.

2C. He also makes an appearance in Oracle of Ages on the fallen hero timeline. This time he does not have a released age (as far as I remember), but with how the game and Hyrule Historia talk about the Imprisoning War I think this game takes place at least a couple hundred years after Ocarina of Time. This once again puts Tingle at being extremely old.

3A. He also makes an appearance in Four Swords Adventure on the child timeline. When we look at the timeline though we see that at least TWO eras have passed since Majora's Mask, an unnamed one and the Twilight Era. We can see then that Tingle must have lived for a VERY long time.

When we look at these games above, all of them are considered canon, without looking at the ambiguously canon games, or the cameos, then we would have to say that either Tingle somehow keeps reincarnating. This is simply because it is impossible for Tingle to be 35 in Majora's Mask and be alive in Minish Cap... But there is a way...

Let's say that the ambiguously canon games are correct, and that Tingle would die without Rupees. Then let's take the theory that says that Tingle is then immortal as long as he has Rupees. It explains why Tingle can be alive in both Majora's Mask and Four Swords Adventure, but it still does not explain the rest. We have to think of how it is possible for Tingle, the only Tingle, to exist in Minish Cap, but that still would not answer TWO things. How does Tingle from Wind Waker know about Tingle from Majora's Mask? And how can they both be 35 years old?

I think that there might be an answer for that. Tingle gained favor with the fairies, we know that much from his spin-off games, but what if he also was given a gift from them or there are other abilities that Tingles get?

How do we explain Tingle in the Minish Cap? The same answer exists in the game he made his first appearance in. Time Travel. If he has gained a way of traveling through time itself than there exists no problem for his appearance in Minish Cap, but there still is a problem for how the Wind Waker Tingle knows about the Majora's Mask Tingle and how they are both 35. The only other answer that can exist is a type of dimensional travel, the ability to travel to other dimensions and timelines. This not only explains his appearance outside of Termina, but it also explains him knowing about the Tingle of another timeline as they would be the same Tingle. This would also make all his cameos possible, the doll in Skyward Sword, the poster in Phantom Hourglass, etc.

This is a way to explain Tingle's existence in all the games he appears in if Uncle Rupee found Tingle in Termina. This is speculation and guesswork, and there could obviously be other explanations on how he exists in all games. If this is true, Tingle is an extremely powerful being, so there would have to be limitations of some sort. The only other explanation I see is reincarnation, yet there is no reason he would have as to why he reincarnates. Both are just speculation, but I figured I would try and explain his constant appearances.