Zelda Wiki:ZELDA

ZELDA
This page is the HQ for the Zelda Wiki Editor Large-scale Destubbing Assignment, better known as ZELDA. We are a group of editors striving to destub and improve articles. If you would like to join, place your sig in the section Editors Willing to Participate in this Project.

Goals

 * 1) To lower the stub ratio as much as possible.
 * 2) To make improvements to articles marked as needing it.
 * 3) To provide readers with even more quality information than we currently have.

ZELDA Badge
There is a "badge" available to all confirmed members of ZELDA. It comes in the form of an icon. It may be seen here.

Brief Guide to Article Content and Formatting
Although Zelda Wiki.org has the enviable stub ratio of 0.1322, many of the stub articles are frequently vistited and noticed. This project hub will strive to bring stubs to decent article standards. See Help Guides for more in-depth information.

Tips on expanding an article beyond Stub-status.
 * Subject Too many articles focus more on things revolving around the subject rather than the subject itself. This is really annoying to readers when they're looking for more information on an actual thing. Try to recenter the article on the subject. Keep the related information in but make sure that it doesn't eclipse the actual subject.
 * Introduction Introduce the article as well as possible. Make the reader want to read the rest. To do this, don't repeat what the article says, simply touch those points and offer an insight.
 * Images Find Images by searching related articles, Unused Images, or other websites (particularly our affiliated sites).
 * Additional images can be added to an article's image gallery.
 * Links Add pipelinks to increase the navigatibility of the page. Avoid linking to disambiguation pages. Click on the links and ensure they have the proper identifiers and do not end at a disambiguation page.
 * Templates Consider adding a template or even a few. such as an infobox, a related subject navigation template, etc
 * Infoboxes ZW has many infoboxes and probably needs many more.
 * Ensure the fields of the template are up to date, more fields are added often and few older insertions are updated
 * Add or suggest any new fields you believe are warranted
 * Navigation Templates ZW has largely overlooked the use of Nav Templates thus far, many new nav templates are likely warranted to keep consistency in Cross-References.
 * If you are unsure of how to create these, you may request new ones in the Zelda Wiki.org talk:Castle Town

Tables Tabilizing some awkwardly placed information is another option. Advanced tables can also be done (such as sortable tables, and irregularly celled tables)
 * Examples of Tables in articles: (Largest to smallest)
 * Normal Tables: Wheaton & Pita, Ship Parts
 * Irregularly Celled Tables: Goron Dance
 * Sortable Tables: Magic Rings, Characters in Super Smash Bros. (Series), Goron Shop

Overhaul Reformat the article if necessary, sometimes bold changes are needed. In this case you may be better off working in the Sandbox and getting some opinions before replacing the article.

References Revisit the source(s) of the article and find more things to write with the goal of expanding the article in mind.
 * Take notes and use specific quotes for references from the game, instruction manual, official guides, official site, or even developer quotes.
 * See Help:References for help with including references or even ask any of the in-house Citationists.
 * Use to mark statements needing a source. A future ZW project will be to get references on every page doing so will help this.

See Also Sections Many articles needing cross references have none.

Categorization Review the article's categories and determine if these are adequate, add more relevant categories if possible.

Delete? If a topic is Zelda specific, regardless of its importance, a deletion is unlikely. One other option is to merge pages of little importance into similar or related pages. The Zelda Definitions page could serve as a common ground for pages that have few options for a merge.

Top 10 Candidates to Improve
 NOTICE! This section is for articles in need of SERIOUS attention. Do not add articles which only need minor improvements. Once an article is added, please leave a comment in the comments section. 

Improvement Needed Light World The real question is: what cannot be done to this article? It needs everything! Or, and this must get support, it could be redirected to Hyrule or something of the sort. This article has an uncertain fate. Temple of Fire What can be expected inside? Dungeon theme? References. How many floors? More is said of the Isle of Embers here than the actual dungeon. Business Scrub Association There is a good amount of info already here, it just needs a chunk of references/quotes to back up the statements provided. Shovel Each game's section could use a bit more information on using the shovel. What areas of Hyrule (or wherever) are the digging games in? What enemies are found by digging? Time Portals Certainly more could be said of that. Some locations, how time portals are used as a maze, What happens while using a time portal, the relevant songs. etc Telescope Quotes, Old Man Ho Ho's telescope use prompts, The use to get a heart piece on Windfall Isle by stargazing, Quotes from that. :P South Shore <DD>This is basically filler info, a bit more could be said, a reference or so thrown in. <DT>100% Completion <DD>My, my...This article's small. It's nowhere NEAR achieving its full potential. It obviously needs to have someone write the sections on all of the games. <DT>North Castle <DD>Simply a matter of harmonizing it wit other AoL pages for relevant quotes and images. </DL>

Editors willing to participate in this project
Simply sign (3 tildes for a sig only) below so the support can be measured!

Calibure

Ganondorfdude11

Noble Wrot

Link87

Comments
This page will maintain a Community Commenting aspect and users may discuss the project here. Be sure to sign your posts!

Okay, I've worked on the Inn, its not big enough to take out of the stub section, but its decent now, I'll work on it tommorow, i need to find out about the upper floor, i remember there was this treasure chest outside that you couldn't get to unless you lit the lamp inside, but i cant remember what was inside the chest, and also there was that other room with the gut sitting in Calibure 14:29, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I took Happy Hearth Inn down, updated the ZW stub ratio, and added references to the page. I'll find something else asap. :P 05:29, 20 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Awesome, I've been thinking, maybe St.GIGA should be removed, and also that I have worked on the Game boy page, giving it titles and paragraphs to make it look decent, could somone check it to see if its worthy of been taken out of the stub section? it has enough info in my oppinion Calibure 09:53, 21 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I merged Flying Carpet and Carpet Merchant. That's about all that can be said about this guy, though. He is literally just a random NPC. Ganondorfdude11 06:38, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * You're right, I pulled it down. I'm looking for 2 more stubs now, but I think the Picori Blade has the most potential on what's up here now.


 * I took down Game Boy and put up Minish Woods Calibure 06:02, 29 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Helmethead removed. I worked on it the best I could. 17:00, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Restoration Wall destubbed, within minutes of it jumping on this list! 04:03, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm almost happy with it. I'll look for a few references to add to it. :P Let's call references a de facto de-stubbing standard :? 04:07, 1 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Added Festari. 05:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Added Tuni Nut. Also, I tagged the Restoration Wall page as a stub myself, so Cipriano's change didn't really affect our true stub ratio. 21:15, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The thing about the Tuni Nut though, is that its entire purpose, use, and function is on the page already. I don't think there is really anything extra to add. It's just one of those articles, and it happens sometimes, that will remain short and stubby. =/  21:43, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I tried to start working on a userbox, but the special page restrictor screwed it up. I implemented the same thing as on the admin template, but again, it screwed the page up. Who made the admin template, anyway?
 * Preview here:Template:User ZWAIF 21:58, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Well you need to use the Template:Icon to make it work. I think we need a more representative image tho, I was looking at the Essences of Nature, Fertile Soil seems fitting in an article growth sense of the term, but I'll let others decide/nominate :P Yeah the stub ratio will go up and down. I thought I killed it when I merged 21 of the old news articles to News 2006. We can't assume we have all of the stubs labeled, some article that are marked as stubs, or needing improvements may be mistagged. It's just a general idea of how well it's going. Eventually we'll have this a manageable category (akin to the Wanted Pages). At that point we may have to move to the articles needing improvements or something. 00:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Added a quote and an image to the Crenel Hermit page, and I daresay it looks as completed as it may ever be. 04:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It absolutely HAS to be an icon? We can't restrict userboxes? Dang...oh well. Like I said, it's only a rough draft. I'll make it into the fertile soil and turn it into an icon. As for the pixel coordinates for linking, I'm on my Wii again and can't get them from paint. Well, on second thought...I can get them manually. I'll do that. I'mma get us our special icon, guys. Just you wait! 05:04, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd rather have an icon actually, as I have quite a lot of userboxes already. =) 05:14, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Icon made. Type anywhere on your page to stick it at the top. I need to test it with Axi's page to see if it eclipses his "admin" icon, though. 05:24, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Added references and such to Telescope.Ganondorfdude11 05:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Added Floodgate Keeper. It's a tiny article whose only hope is either a merge with a larger one, or a single reference. Text dump that! 05:22, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I've given Floodgate Keeper a bit of love (by which I mean references). 10:00, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks good, I didn't really know what to do with that one besides sourcing it. =) Added Business Scrub Association, just needs references as well as far as I can see! 20:49, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I read an edit summary about the stub ratio, I get it from a wiki stats page, I'd rather not post the link in here. It would be meaningless if people started gaming it and the other metrics on the page, but if anyone wants to know it, hit me up off the wiki and I'll comply. It hasn't changed much, I think merging pages sets it back. So I was thinking to update it once a week or so, especially since the upcoming ST release is likely to throw it into havoc. 23:11, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I've never witnessed an article revolution so far that comes with the introduction of a new game, so I bet its gonna get wild, all over the wiki!  23:15, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I've been adding to the St. GIGA page. Can that be placed in the box below, as well? 00:52, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Uh, Alter? That page is still a pathetic stub. It needs more information on the company. Consider getting info from the company site. Use google to translate it. 01:06, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the edit coflict.... Yeah, I didn't realize that was the destubbed page list. What do you think I've been doing to get that little info. When I translate it, it is really hard to figure out. 01:17, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
 * 100% Completion added. I'm going to work on it, but feel free to finish it if I run out of time.
 * And thanks for the one you gave me XD
 * In any case, that page especially should stay listed since it requires translation to get information. That's a top 10-er for sure. 01:22, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I pulled Floodgate Keeper down. I think Pete got that as far as it can go, I just added a bit more location info and the glitch quote from him. North Castle is up now. That's probably one of the worst stubs I've seen. Also my stub search is full of Glitch/Hack pages. I think some merging/deleting may be in order. 07:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I've brought Festari to as good a state as can be achieved. Would someone else like to cast an eye over this? 09:09, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Petenu, it's great. =) On the same note, I believe South Shore has been successfully "destubbed" as well.
 * Added Light World. I can just sense Chris will attack this one, as he seems to like topics of ambiguity, and ones that have high writing potential. =D 05:37, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Possible Project Page
I've had an idea in mind for awhile, now, and I feel that the time has come for me to bring it forward. We should make a project page entitled Project:Zelda Wiki Article Improvement Force (or any other name you guys want.) I personally think that we can't stay on Axi's sandbox forever =P

Let me know what you think. I didn't create the page because I wasn't sure what name we will have. 02:30, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * That was the initial idea, but I haven't heard back from other staff members on it. Blame the holidays. But I figured to see if it would run its course in just a few days or become an involved project or not. 02:43, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well go ahead and get it going so I can have my sandbox back :D I'll see about having it on the sidebar. 02:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, look at the involvement. We have 8 members already including you. If you need any more reason to make one, look at the glitches project page. No one even uses that and it's still there. I say we get a vote on the name and kick up a project page. 02:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * In fact...
 * Well, St. GIGA is no longer a stub. Just an article without enough sources. Working on digging those up now, but it may be a while.Anyway, I think it can be put on hold for a while now. 04:07, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Name Voting
We need an official name. I want to know what you guys want. Please vote in the appropriate section and sign.

Use other name (Please Describe New Name)
The simple Article Improvement will have to suffice for the page name in order for it to go in the sidebar below the Image Requests. 03:09, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I actually agree with you. ZWAIF is just something I threw together in my head. I didn't expect to use it for very long. I favor this name. 03:11, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I like the current name well enough, but I think we could do better. However, Article Improvement seems quite bland. It's fine for the page name, but what's the point if there's no cool acronym? (kidding,but still) 03:26, December 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * How about ZELDA which stands for: the ZeldaWiki Editor Large-scale Destubbing Assignment. Hmmm? 05:03, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * +1 right here. Nice job, C. :) 05:08, December 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * It's a bit wordy, but a Z.E.L.D.A. acronym is guaranteed to draw attention from the sidebar...I love it. 07:26, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I like the Z.E.L.D.A. acronym as well. Ganondorfdude11 07:39, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I like Z.E.L.D.A., it just works Calibure 11:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Z.E.L.D.A.'s good. And I think we just made a majority vote (5 votes out of 8 users.) Gentlemen, welcome to Z.E.L.D.A.! 14:24, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks good. Although it's been decided, I'd prefer to use the "A" as "Association", rather than "Assignment", because it's not really forcing people to join, or anything. Thoughts? And yes, it's sure to draw attention. 18:27, December 6, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd actually been thinking about that. I suppose we should change it to Association. 01:50, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * (Also, can someone move the project page and name change sections to the talk page? We should keep this page for the work only and I'm on my Wii, so I can't do it.)


 * Although its just a name, I'd rather keep it as "assignment", because "association" isn't really what the group is about. The project is an "assignment" and by changing the name to "association" it places the focus on the group itself, and less on what the group is doing as a function of its name. While "assignment" has a more serious tone, and I do agree with Alter on that, it is what it is. But it's just a name, so really... whatever! =) 03:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I do agree with you, but I still think it fits better with the idea. I'll try to think of other "A" words. Besides, what's wrong with the focus on the group? If we create a minor hype about it, people will wish to join, and thus we'll have more articles fixed up. :) 05:47, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
 * I get you, that's true. Hmmm... actually, "association" makes it sound more legit than "assignment", which sounds like homework. And I assure you if this wiki was my homeowrk to edit, I would definately not enjoy it so much. ;D 06:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)