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Play ogg files etc.
Hi, Simply put, should we get this, or are there reasons elsewise? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler -- KokoroSenshi 00:48, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Problem.
I have a problem while trying to upload a file. I can't select the game, type or licensing. The only option given is "None selected".


 * Fixed. It was an issue with page caching. If ever the problem comes up again, you can fix it by the cache of these pages: MediaWiki:Games, MediaWiki:Filetype, and MediaWiki:Licenses.
 * Thank you for bringing this to our attention. In the future, please sign your posts by adding four tildes ( ~ ) to the end of your posts. This automatically adds your username and a timestamp so everyone can know who wrote the post and when. :) 22:10, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Add Some Pictures, Videos, and Info about the prototype of the first Zelda game.
Since there is no info about the prototype about the first Zelda game, the original FDS version prototype. I'd figure that we should add info about it, it would be a great thing. Some photos can be added. I can take snapshots of this leaked prototype from 2010. It's official after all. Should there be a gallery dedicated to it. --Pwwnd123 (talk) 21:36, 16 December 2014 (UTC)


 * While we should definitely note that a prototype exists, I don't think we need to cover it in-depth. It's more up The Cutting Room Floor's alley and they already have a on it.  22:10, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Hyrule Warriors Illustrations
For Hyrule Warriors theres a bunch of listings at the bottom of the page. i thnink it would be great to add one of the illustrations or even go more in depth and add gold skulltula info. but im thinking that pictures of completed illustrations and the dlc ones would be great. Ccw0100 (talk) 21:54, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
 * There are already images of all the Illustrations in its own article. You can also find the details on Gold Skulltulas in the Scenarios in Hyrule Warriors pages. Chuck (talk) 04:06, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

REQUEST : Page that lists iterations in order
–I think a page that gathers as much information as possible about re-releases of game would be very appreciated. Particularly for Ocarina of Time, but other games as well.

I'm looking for information on Twilight Princess, as I know the original release contained the infamous game-ending bug. This was fixed of course. However I was wondering if there was still a way to tell which of these early launch day copies has the bug without opening it.

This and the subsequent replay of this incident in Skyward Sword are just minor examples. For the latter it might be handy to note that all copies of the bundle are verified to contain the bug, just to drive home the point further. Servantofgod (talk) 00:41, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Moving the Names template
Hi all,

The staff was discussing our article format and Pakkun proposed that we move the Names in Other Regions template up into "Etymology" sections. They would be the last of section of articles before the Gallery.

So it would look something like this, this, or this.

This has a few advantages. For one, it gives editors space to write about the names in full paragraphs. Two, having a dedicated section makes it easier to find the table and edit it. Three, that information belongs in the main body of the article anyway, not below references and nav templates. The only downside I can see is that in some cases (like my last link) the table can create a big gap between the Etymology section and the next section down.

If anyone has suggestions or concerns before we move forward, please post them here. :) 10:12, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Does look like a good idea. Not sure it will stop people from misrepresenting a name taken specifically from a European translation and misrepresenting it as applying to both sides of the Atlantic, though...--Shiningpikablu252 (talk) 16:40, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


 * So long as we stick only to official translations (we really need to clean up all of those pages too while we're at it), then I'm still fine with this. -The Goron Moron (talk) 17:02, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I like this idea. --Planetbox (talk) 21:42, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Wind Waker artworks
Hello,

this page already offers quite a lot artworks of the original Wind Waker, but only a few of the new HD version. Could somebody with access to the Nintendo library upload files which are not already on the wiki, if they are more?

For example there isn't a version of the Master Sword in high resolution. All 3 uploaded Master Sword Stages have a pretty bad quality.
 * We pretty much have all TWWHD artworks from the Assets Library, so basically they never released a Master Sword one. Also, don't forget to sign your posts with ~ . Chuck (talk) 19:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Gohma split issue
For quite some time now there has been an issue regarding the split of the gohma page. I, being a new user can not do much about this. I would ask that a staff member make a vote for this topic, and act on the decision. Minuet of forest

Question on WIP pages
I happen to be a big Hyrule Warriors fan, and want to submit to creating information on the game. My current project is resting in my sandbox, and is a page on Special Attacks. However, being new to the site, I feel, it may be more efficient to put it up as an actual page, with a WIP box on the top. This way, as contributions are added to the page, it can be updated and brought 'up to code' in ways I have yet to be experienced in.

Before making this decision, I would like to know if this would be allowed, or if I should just keep it in my sandbox and work on my own until it is finished. As it stands, it has yet to have all of the chart filled.

Thanks.Mr. Poe (talk) 05:33, 25 January 2015 (UTC)


 * First of all, awesome work that you've done so far! We could really use an article detailing each of the characters' Special Attacks, so thanks for helping us out! I would suggest that you add more about what a Special Attack really is (sort of like an introduction and overall use, the bazaar Badges that affect Special Attacks, etc.) so that the article can have more of an overall explanation of it instead of just listing each attack. I'm not sure if I explained myself correctly, but I think by looking at some of the Sword Techniques articles, such as Hidden Skill, Jump Attack, and Spin Attack, you can sort of see what I mean: they all in some shape or form mention what the attack is used for, how to perform it, and even any upgrades it may have (such as the bazaar Badges I mentioned earlier). I think once you have those things added, it would definitely be ready to be put on an actual page, even if all of the Special Attacks aren't listed.


 * If you have any questions as to what I may have meant, feel free to ask away!! Keep up the great work, and happy editing!! :) --Dany36 (talk) 21:44, 25 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah. I was planning to get to that, but I haven't quite yet - my current project was going about listing the things.  I'll get right to that and turn it into the actual page!  Thanks! Mr. Poe (talk) 23:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Sword pages (Hyrule Warriors and otherwise)
While I was making a page for the Knight's Sword in, I realized that not all swords had articles, and some in the Swords template just link to their "swords by game" page. I was wondering what the policies for the Sword pages were. How do we determine which swords get their own articles? -- Zero-ELEC (talk) 23:57, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Generic unnamed Swords most of the time just link to a "Swords in" page, such as the Sword from LA. The Swords template seems to be a little outdated, so will have to fix that. 00:50, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Majora's Mask 3D Help
I was wanting to know if you guys'd like help with finding more changes in Majora's Mask 3D. I already pre-ordered it, so I could definitely try to find some new changes once it's released if you want. Thanks. 14:20, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Hey there. That sounds great!
 * Everyone's welcome to add information if they're willing to help, so feel free to do so when it comes out. :D 22:10, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Glad to hear. I'll do my best.. 18:59, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Fan-made Content
I wanted to know if there's a page for fan-made content like fan art, remixes, and other stuff like that. If not, then do you know a good website for uploading fan-made LoZ content? I've made a few remixes and stuff in my time and I thought it'd be cool to upload it for other LoZ fans to see. 19:08, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The Wiki focus in official content only, but once the ZU forums are back, you are more than welcome to post any of your fan-made material there. 21:02, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you know when ZU will be up again? --Marcus152 (talk) 15:05, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The forums are back again, I updated the link up there so you can check them out too. 19:17, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

A Link Between Worlds Swords Page
I checked in the wanted pages section and there was a page called Swords of A Link Between Worlds. When I checked on the A Link Between Worlds article in the Items section, I already found the possible swords. Should I create that page or should I just ignore it?Frozenfire71 (talk) 00:46, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * The items sections are only for listing items. Athough we also have pages for Swords with more detailed info, such as Swords of Ocarina of Time. So feel free to create the page if you feel so :) You can check the OoT Swords page to get an idea on how to make it. 02:24, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay. Thanks!Frozenfire71 (talk) 01:03, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Template:Items
Template:Items needs major updates. There's a redlink to Template:SS Items on it in Skyward Sword's tab, and no tab at all for A Link Between Worlds. Digifiend (talk) 02:07, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting us know. We will try to update it as soon as possible. 02:15, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, for images for SS item screens, I have everything set up to capture the item screens. I am even prepped to make perfect(?) overlays (semi-transparency) using through textures, camera angles and "disable lighting"+"disable fog". However I may be constrained in terms of getting copies with the different versions of items etc. I also ask, what screen should be used? Using only the B-button select screen may be limited, though the entire gear screen(s) may have too many changes (esp. since SS has fancy animated shiny effects etc. for their screens) though it may become easier if I can confirm the item sections in the gear screen are opaque and that we can copy-paste the original sprites/textures. Also, in coming weeks I will be somewhat busy. - KokoroSenshi 14:24, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Backrounds!!
Let's face it, your backrounds are dull. Can you make a more Zeldaish one? It might get more people! -ToonLink13 23:25, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Groosenator's edits on the 8th of September
Some theories were removed by the bot on that date. I'm not sure if it was intentional or not, so I thought it would be better if I brought it up here. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 05:42, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


 * They were entirely intentional, as we (Zelda Wiki and Zelda Universe staff) decided that all theories are to be moved to Zelda Universe's forums and/or stripped of fan conjecture (to ensure that we remain as close to the facts as possible). Due to ZU's lengthy forum downtime, this has been a shelved project until just recently. 06:03, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

News item
I don't know if we have a news section for the zelda franchise (the main page announcements seem to be wiki only), but the game jam mentioned here could definitely use some visibility. (Here's hoping Nintendo gets the message!)KrytenKoro (talk) 22:01, 24 March 2015 (UTC)


 * (FYI, I fixed your link.)
 * Covering topics like this isn't really our focus, since we're not a general community site (our purpose being to document rather than report). I've passed the word on to some news-y people I know in the hopes that they'll feature it, but it might be better for you to just go straight to sites that do cover news topics, like Zelda Universe (or any other "Zelda ____" site). It'll be interesting to see what comes of it, but I don't think it's our place to spread the news of it (so much as to, say, find some way to document it once it's concluded).  23:27, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Walkthoughs
Hey, I was just thinking maybe we could have walkthroughs for the games? I could help, maybe I could do windwaker if i'm allowed? Would we make a separate article for the walkthroughs or would we just make a section in the article about the game? Admins or Leaders, please respond! --Marcus152 (talk) 17:36, 3 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Marcus,


 * Thank you for showing initiative and a willingness to help us out. The thing is, since we're an encyclopedia, our purpose here at the wiki is to document facts about the Zelda games. Walkthroughs aren't in the scope of our project. Also, we're already close partners with Zelda Universe, which is making their own guides.


 * There's tons of other stuff you can do to help us out, if you're interested (see here for more info). We're happy to have new hands on deck. If you're dead set on guide writing I think Zelda Universe might still be looking for guide writers, so you could always try applying with them. :) 17:55, 3 April 2015 (UTC)


 * EDIT: You can also join and help with their Zelda guides.  01:41, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay! I think first i'm gonna help make zelda wiki the best for MM3D! --Marcus 18:07, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Moving theories out of articles into a new namespace or into the Community namespace
After looking at a bunch of articles over the past few days, I had an idea. I feel this wiki would greatly benefit from a Theories namespace, or move all theories from their respective articles to the Community namespace. Since wikis are all about sticking to the facts, this could provide the separation between theory and fact in articles. It could also prevent the wiki from seeming both ambiguous and concrete within the same article.

Some may argue, if this was done, a user down the line could make a counterargument to put the theories back into their respective articles. This idea is tough to reconcile in the light of articles like Dark Tribe, Hero of Men and Tetraforce, which are nearly all theory, theory-heavy Sacred Realm, and sub-pages on theories, like Sheikah/Theories, that already subscribe to this idea. By placing theories elsewhere, we can keep better track of all theories, and make it a "one-stop-shop" for readers looking only for theory info. Plus, many forums don't have a "one-stop-shop" for theories - they're all littered amongst the threads. It'd be a large job, I know, but if the staff was ambitious, they could even appoint someone to "patrol" the theory namespace. We've shown so far that the Community namespace is great at keeping non-factual and often non-Zelda information out of the main wiki. It would make article pages shorter and easier to load, and less messy (removes the bulky "Theory Warning" marquee, also).

A simple hyperlink could take the reader from the fact page to the theory page, and back. In this day and age, all browsers have the ability to open multiple tabs. While it might be a minor inconvenience to transfer back and forth between fact and theory parts of the same topic, I think it would overall increase the legitimacy, cleanliness, and ease of locating facts on this wiki. A bunch of ideas - what do you guys think? 17:02, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds great to me.KrytenKoro (talk) 18:20, 14 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Some time ago it was decided among the current staff and the ZU staff that all theories would be moved onto their theory board as a master thread and all theories would be removed and relocated there. We're currently in the process of this, but it's a very slow process. Since ZW and ZU are closely partnered, it simply makes sense to leave theories to the general community side (ZU's forums) and retain the factual information in a clean and presentable manner here.
 * We've been concerned about the theories, ourselves, but they'll either be integrated into the article of question as purely logical conjecture or transferred over to the forums entirely. From then on, it'll be the responsibility of staff to help keep theories off of articles and direct theorists to their appropriate place. Certain theories that were once huge and critical to the fandom may be preserved for archival purposes, but they won't have any place in the mainspace, so to speak. 18:39, 14 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Kasuto, moving the theories out of the mainspace is a great idea in general. It might be worth moving ZW's "WikiExclusives" out to the forums as well, since those are theory, too. This wiki's in good hands :) 18:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Help confirming my email
Hello. For some reason, Zelda Wiki hasn't sent me a confirmation code, although it has been days since I've signed up and had Zelda Wiki to send the code to me. When I've tried to have it resent, it says, "A confirmation code has already been emailed to you; if you recently created your account, you may wish to wait a few minutes for it to arrive before trying to request a new code." Below this sentence is a button saying, "Mail a confirmation code"; I've clicked it a number of times, but the problem persists. Also, I've confirmed that I have my email address typed correctly. What should I do? Thanks! —The Sackinator (talk) 23:44, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Just posting here again as a reminder for a response. Thanks! —The Sackinator (talk) 23:56, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Should I delete my account and start over, maybe? —The Sackinator (talk) 19:10, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


 * That's probably best.
 * The issue must be with the wiki software (MediaWiki). Unfortunately we're on an outdated version of the software that isn't supported anymore, so we'd have to upgrade it before we could make a bug report to the MediaWiki devs. We'll try to have that done as soon as we can, but it's quite the undertaking so it might be a while before the issue can be fixed. Sorry about that. :/
 * In any case, you can edit the wiki without an email confirmation. If ever you forget your password, you can make a new account, let us know and we'll merge it with your old one. 21:54, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply! If the issue is with MediaWiki, would that mean that making a new account right now wouldn't work anyway? If so, then I guess I'll just wait until the bug is fixed. If you know the answer, will I have to create a new account when that time comes or not? Thanks! —The Sackinator (talk) 03:22, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Images sourced from the Internet
Hi, I decided to search File:MM3D_Ambrosial_Amberjack.jpg using Google image search (I can't remember why, maybe if there was a better one?) and I found it on this website:. Examining the image here and on that website, I noticed they were the same (well, the one here had those artifacts you get from jpg quality for some reason). My question is should I ask before uploading it and the other relevant nice fish images (in addition, converting to png), or just do: "Any file found on the Web should have its source cited in the "Source" field of the upload form (copy-pasting the URL will do)."(from the Upload file page)? They will go be used in Fishing, and in addition, should I use the information the person provided on the page as well? (and put [citation needed]? A pity I don't have MM3D to confirm myself). Thanks. - KokoroSenshi 06:07, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Oh, also when reuploading File:MM3D_Ambrosial_Amberjack.jpg as png, do I put the source as the jpg's uploader or the original jpg source URL? - KokoroSenshi 10:02, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I'll answer the questions in the order that you asked them:


 * 1) You don't need to ask permission to upload in-game images. (The copyrights belong to Nintendo and not that person, so it's not their permission to give.) However we do insist on sourcing, as a common courtesy to the person who went through the trouble of getting the image and uploading it to their site.
 * 2) It's hard to answer that question without knowing exactly what information you plan on using. Ideally we would like to have all our information confirmed by one of our own users or a trusted source. If I were you I would:
 * 3) Try to find a more reliable source of information than a one-man blog (an official game guide, for example).
 * 4) Cite your source whenever you use information from a website (using Template:Cite web). Gameplay elements that are common knowledge don't need to be cited, but keep in mind it's better to cite too much than not enough.
 * 5) Add  to the statements that you add. A more knowledgeable user can confirm the information for you (and remove the citation if appropriate).
 * 6) If I were you, I would put both the URL and the person's name: Gamer Zelgerath
 * I may need to update the upload guide... I wrote "copy-pasting the URL will do" because I was afraid that if I put anything more complicated, certain users might not bother citing at all.
 * Anyway, I hope this clears things up for you. Please feel free to ask further questions if you have any. :) 12:36, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm new to wiki discussion, so I'm fumbling a bit with adding this response, but I am Zelgerath from the website Zelgerath.com where I put some nice fish pictures. I'm at your service when it comes to consolidating information and graphics for this wiki, but I'm not so good at formatting and stuff like that so I apologize in advance if I'm not replying in the correct way. I just want to say that the information I provided in the article is accurate. It doesn't have all the answers to how fishing works in Majora's Mask but it's more detailed than any official guide that I have ever found. The only bit that I'm not sure about is how many fish one has to catch before the "boss fish" (unofficial description) are able to appear, however I did say in the article that I wasn't sure about that. Feel free to use all of it. - Zelgerath 21:59, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Zelgerath, welcome to the wiki! Those fish images you uploaded to your site are pretty awesome, so would you mind if they are rendered and then uploaded to the wiki? :) About signing your responses, you just need to add ~ at the end of them to add your signature.


 * About the fish information, it is already at the Fish page, so there's no really point in adding the same info and images to the Fishing page too (having the fish section in that page seems pretty pointless to me). 05:50, 25 June 2015 (UTC)


 * As Hylian King said, because they are in-game screenshots you don't technically have to ask my permission to use them, but by all means, go for it. I tend to use MiiVerse to capture my screenshots but I also have a 3DS Recorder which can do the same thing and I'd be happy to help the wiki if anything comes up where those tools would be useful. If anyone wants me to get screenshots for any other Zelda game or whatever, just let me know. I am most easily contacted via Twitter where I am @Zelgerath. Zelgerath (talk) 20:04, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

If you don't mind then I'll go ahead and upload them so they can be added to the Fish page :) You can find all the images needed in the wiki here, so feel free to check it out. 20:34, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Email for watchlist
Hello. I have my email authenticated now, but unfortunately, I'm not getting emails for changes on my watchlist. I went to Preferences but was unable to find a way to make it work. Does Zelda Wiki offer email for watchlists, or does it not at the moment? Thanks! The Sackinator (talk) 03:04, 19 July 2015 (UTC)—

Adding quotes to pages
So I had an idea that I'm stealing form Zeldapedia to add quotes to every page. What do you think? Nullatrum (talk) 16:26, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Actually we use to do that before but not anymore. Also, about you signature, make sure to check the custom signaure help guide to know how to properly create your own, especially since we don't allow the use of images on them. 17:52, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


 * There are a lot of cool Zelda quotes, but I don't think factual, encyclopedic articles are the place for them. It just seems rather fanboyish. Yeah, we are just a fan site but we also strive to deliver professional content. And besides, how do you choose what quote to use? It's a subjective choice at best and an arbitrary one at worst.
 * Thanks for speaking up about it though. I'm certain you're not the only one who likes the idea! 23:51, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * By the way, I don't mean to criticize wikis who do use quotes... I just don't think it suits Zelda Wiki's style, that's all. :P 23:58, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Replacing numbers one hundred and lower (87, 3, 0, 10) with spelled out numbers (eighty-seven, three, zero, ten) with a Bot
Since it's a wiki we should be editting in Chicago style and for numbers, there are a few rules that are followed. Either (a) numbers one hundred and lower are spelled out, or (b) numbers zero through nine are spelled out. This helps keep the flow of articles going and makes it easier for most people to read. When you're reading something that suddenly starts using digits (87, 3, 0, 10) it can break the flow of reading, slow you down, and sometimes become unclear in worst situations. Of course, this isn't the case for everyone, but many. Additionally, it is more grammatically correct to follow along with the Chicago style. I propose we could make a bot to try and change this (replacing 1 2 3 with one two three on every article) but what do you guys think? Is it not that big of a deal or should we do something?

Most of all I'd just like consistency. Articles I've been going across (I usually just edit by "random article") have in some cases "24 rupees, 6 bottles" and other cases have "forty rupees, twelve heart containers" for example, so there isn't a clear continuity across the whole Wiki. I propose we stick with some method, (and in my personal opinion I think one hundred and lower should be spelled) and stick with it. Yes this isn't the most pressing topic by any means, but I'm just wondering what do you all think about this? --Nullatrum (t)(c) 22:06, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


 * It would be great if we had a bot to maintain a numbering standard. The thing is, I don't think we have the resources to make that happen right now. As far as I know, those with the know-how don't have the time, and those with the time don't have the know-how. So unless I'm wrong about that, we're outta luck. For now, at least.
 * That said, we definitely have such a standard written down somewhere. This comes at a great time since we're actually writing style guidelines for the wiki right now. However the guidelines are intended as recommendations and not definite rules, so the numbering standard, like every other style rule, wouldn't be – shouldn't be – strictly enforced. I'm going to get on my soapbox for a second and say that editing Zelda Wiki should to be a leisurely activity and I feel we risk turning away potential contributors by being too constraining... But that's not an issue if ever we do have a bot to do it.
 * Personally I prefer rule (b) numbers zero to nine spelled out. I feel it's closer to what's on the wiki at the moment. And there would obviously have to be some exceptions where digits are kept, like infoboxes and tables like these. 00:41, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah definitely not everywhere would this rule be advised like those tables and infoboxes, or if the number is part of the name, but as mentioned it would be good to come with some sort of consensus as to what the standard should beNullatrum (t)(c) 03:48, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds interesting; With (b), what happens to "24 rupees, 6 bottles" then? Won't it be inconsistent then "24 rupees, six bottles", mixing digits and words? Or is that fine? -- KokoroSenshi 01:25, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

The postman's mask
I've noticed something about the postman's mask. It looks like M. Bison's hat from street fighter. Any ideas about the reference?


 * It most likely isn't. 16:46, 10 November 2015 (UTC)