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Native Residents of Termina = Hylian?
I do not understand why the residents of Termina are listed as the race Hylian. Can anyone native of Termina truly be considered a Hylian? Hylians are from Hyrule, but Termina is a different world (canon). Though the term might not be official, Termanian seems to be a better race than Hylian for the native residents of Termina. What do you think? Dark Mirror&#39;s Link (talk) 05:40, 31 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hylian refers to the race, so it's entirely possible that the race exists outside of Hyrule. Hylians from Hyrule are also known as Hyruleans (but Hylians are not necessarily from Hyrule), but Terminans are not. As far as we know, Terminans are biologically identical to Hylians, so I would say they're effectively indistinguishable. It's also been shown that travel between the worlds is possible as two Hylians were shown to enter it with no apparent effort, so there is zero evidence that Terminans could not be Hylian. It would really be more of a personal distinction (like "Skyloftian").
 * In any case, Hylians are humans with pointed ears. Terminan residents have pointed ears. As there is no canon species for Terminan residents, the closest accurate species name is Hylian. I would rather not have us deal with non-canon titles; it's a sloppy ordeal altogether. 19:11, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Italian Translation Problem
Hello everyone, I'm itaLink and I registered to post some translations into Italian of The Legend of Zelda. I apologize for my bad English but, in fact, are Italian. Sometimes I find problems in saving the changes because it says that I use inappropriate words, but because they are not native speaker I do not know what words it refers. How can I do?


 * This problem should have gone away by now, as you've probably realized.


 * The wiki was probably blocking you from adding certain Italian names because they looked like English swear words. It's an unfortunate but necessary feature to fight vandalism. It only blocks accounts that are totally new, so it won't block you anymore.


 * We apologize for the inconvenience. 17:12, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

A Question
Hello. My name's PhantomHeartless5. I just got on this wiki and wanted to ask. Is it all right if I add a characteristics section to character articles showcasing Appearance, Personality, and Abilities? I thought I'd ask before making big changes. PhantomHeartless5 (talk) 18:13, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * That is more than welcomed! As you might have already seen, we already have those section for characters such as Ghirahim or Princess Zelda, but it'd be perfect if we could get those sections out for as many characters as possible. :) Go ahead! --Dany36 (talk) 01:32, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
 * As Dany said, there are characteristics sections for characters who play a major role in the game, but the section isn't as common on minor character articles. I say go on right ahread. XXSuperXXNintendoXx (talk) 01:41, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Changing my username
Osteoderm Jacket is a nick I reused from another website, but at this point it doesn't really feel thematically appropriate to this place and it contains a somewhat obscure technical term. I'd like to change it; I was thinking of changing it to "Ice Medallion" if that isn't already taken. How do I go about changing my username? --Osteoderm Jacket (talk) 01:45, 17 June 2014 (UTC)


 * An administrator has to do it for you. I can go ahead if you're settled on "Ice Medallion." Keep in mind that we'd rather not have to rename people several times over, so when someone picks a new name we expect them to stick with it for a good while. Just saying :P 02:09, 17 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Go ahead and change it. I'm pretty sure I want this name and not OJ at this point. Should I put up a note on my user page saying what my previous nickname was? --Osteoderm Jacket (talk) 05:16, 17 June 2014 (UTC)


 * You don't have to. I used to go by "Neo," but now I just use my name. I don't mention it on my userpage. Anyway, I'll take care of that for you if HK hasn't. Just be sure to change your sig to match your new name. 12:58, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Regarding Super Smash Bros.
I was recently going through some pages in order to update them with new information pertaining to, which eventually led me to having a look at a few of the pages relating to some of the older Super Smash Bros. games. As I was browsing, however, I couldn't help but notice that many of them were untidy, inconsistent, and outdated, and I even thought that some were completely unnecessary. The Super Smash Bros. series is non-canon, many aspects of it don't really fall under what I feel a Zelda-based wiki should cover, and I think that the way we handle information associated with it could definitely be improved. Originally, there were a few specific articles that I was going to edit, but I eventually ended up wanting to make quite a lot of major edits to many different pages, so I thought that it would be best if I listed them all here. Basically, what I want to do is this:
 * Do something with the pages for Trophies and Stickers. Either merge them with the game articles themselves or move them to something along the lines of "List of Trophies/Stickers in Super Smash Bros. X". That way, the Trophy page won't become oversized with the release of future games.
 * On a related note, decide whether or not items, music, stages, and enemies from the Super Smash Bros. games deserve similar treatment.
 * Split all of the Zelda-related stages from the Super Smash Bros. series into their own articles. While some are virtually identical to their original appearances (e.g. Skyloft), others are completely different (e.g. Hyrule Castle), and some are somewhere in between (e.g. Great Bay). I think that treating them all the same way and giving them separate pages would allow for slightly more detailed descriptions and make pages less cluttered. They can have either "(Super Smash Bros.)" or "(Stage)" at the end of their titles to disambiguate.
 * Move Template:SSB Stages to "Template:Stage", which is a much simpler name, and add a "Game(s)" field to it. Possibly include a "Theme Music" field, too.
 * Create a category titled "Super Smash Bros. Stages" and incorporate it into the template.
 * Delete either Template:Smashwiki or Template:Exitstub-nintendo, and only use the other to link to more in-depth articles on SmashWiki. There's no real need to have two templates that serve the exact same purpose.
 * Delete the hack and glitch pages for all of the Super Smash Bros. games; they don't fall under our scope.
 * Move Hyrule: Temple to either "Temple (Super Smash Bros.)" or "Temple (Stage)." That's the most recently used and more accurate name. Leave the original page as a redirect.
 * Delete Characters in Super Smash Bros. (Series), for the same reason as the hack and glitch pages. Have a list of all Zelda-related characters on the individual pages for each game, or perhaps create a separate gallery page for each game like we do for canon titles. I personally prefer the former idea.
 * Once again, decide whether or not trophies, stickers, items, music, stages, and enemies deserve similar treatment. I believe that they should all simply be listed on the individual game articles.
 * Decide whether Super Smash Bros. games (and non-canon games in general) belong in the "Game(s)" or "Other media" field of infoboxes. It's currently pretty inconsistent.
 * Merge Super Smash Bros./Link's Moves with either Link/Other Appearances, Hero of Time, or Adult Link. This ties in with the already slightly messy situation we have with the Young Link/Adult Link/Hero of Time pages.
 * Make this template a real template and place it on all relevant pages. Find a better name for it, if possible.

So yeah, that's just about everything. I'd like to hear what everybody else has to say about this. I know that it would take quite a lot of work if we were to put all of these changes into action, but I feel that there's a pretty large need for improvement. If you want me to elaborate on any of these points, feel free to ask. 14:19, 19 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I could get behind all that, with a few exceptions.


 * Some points in response:


 * I think the Trophy and Sticker articles are fine as they are, but I suppose it would be better to split lists by game. I'm against merging them with the game articles because there's too many of them. It would bloat the articles.


 * As for everything else (characters, items, music, etc.), those could all be merged as long as we keep their descriptions brief and there's not so much information that it bloats the pages. We could even scale back our coverage on stages to just small, merged summaries on the game articles. If we did that, we could just delete Template:SSB Stages. Let SmashWiki go into detail about the stages; for obvious reasons they do a better job of it anyway. (On this point you kind of contradict yourself. You mention merging the stages with the game articles but earlier on you also advocate splitting them all.)


 * If we were to keep using Template:Exitstub-nintendo, the wording would have to be changed. Many of our SSB articles are not just "short summaries."


 * I'd say non-canon games should be considered "other media." But maybe we should consider renaming those two fields entirely for the sake of clarity.


 * Why do we need to cover movesets at all? That's another thing we can leave to SmashWiki.

Basically, I wouldn't mind if all our SSB articles looked like does. There's no need to go more in-depth than that when we have SmashWiki as a partner. 15:40, 19 June 2014 (UTC)


 * The Trophies page is good as it is, for now, has I kinda agree that eventually it will become oversized, so maybe in a near future it would be a good idea to split the article per game.
 * I don't really see the point in having an article for every stage, as almost all the relevant info on them can be easily added to its main article (ex. Great Bay) and its respective SBB game article. Besides, like HK said, theres the SmashWiki to go in-depth.
 * I also agree that the SSB glitches and characters pages (and other pages alike) are unnecessary. The game's pages already link to the characters in SSBX articles in the SmashWiki, so there's no really point in having an article about characters outside the Zelda series. When I started updating the SSB articles, I tried to leave only the Zelda-related stuff, as the SmashWiki articles (which are linked at the top of each page anyway) have all the info about everything else.
 * The SSB games, as every other spin-off game, should appear in the other games section, although indeed some pages are still outdated in that matter.
 * I edited all the SSB games articles to look the same, just including the Zelda-related stuff, so I guess that other SSB-related articles would be better like that too. Chuck (talk) 04:50, 20 June 2014 (UTC)