User talk:Jeangabin@legacy41961421/Archive 1

Hey!
Jeangabin, why are you knocking out all of the "See Also" sections on all of those pages? They are an integral part of the page, as they direct readers' interest towards related topics, even if the topic is already mentioned in the article. I must say that I'm not a fan of them either, but they do support interconnectivity of the wiki. Never mind, its actually the other way around. 14:51, 13 February 2010 (UTC)


 * My question is, why are you linking half of these pages to unrelated subjects? 14:55, February 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * In regards to the See also sections, format them like this:
 * Link
 * Princess Zelda
 * Ganondorf
 * That ensures they're all formatted the same way and saves a bit of space on characters. Have a line for each page to link to. You don't have to format it as a link. It does that on its own. To have the links say something else, go like this:
 * Link
 * Princess Zelda|Zelda
 * Ganondorf|Ganon
 * I'll put some of this in the sandbox for you to see. 22:30, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok! thank you. Jeangabin 22:40, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ganondorf|Ganon
 * I'll put some of this in the sandbox for you to see. 22:30, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok! thank you. Jeangabin 22:40, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok! thank you. Jeangabin 22:40, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Scratch that, try out this new toy instead: Template:See also. It should be better than what I just showed you above here. 12:44, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * ah ok! Jeangabin 20:20, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Arrghus
Well, I speak Armenian (First Language), English (Second Language), and a little Russian. My sister speaks japanease and korean, however. I think Arrghus is dervived from the name of Argus Panoptes, which is a giant with a hundred all-seeing eyes in greek mythology. P.S.: I accidently posted this message on you page. ^ _^; -- կրակ (խոսել) -- 00:28, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

OK dude, last warning
The edits saying "See Also" in the LttP characters page (for example) are way out of line with what that page is for. You simply don't say: "See Grandma Ulrira" beneath a character that has nothing to do, nor is even in the same game as the Ulriras. 19:50, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * OK then I'll remove it. Jeangabin 19:57, 16 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, that particular edit wasn't bad. Considering the same characters have similar qualities and such. I didn't have an issue with that, it's some of your more...far stretched edits ( like adding a character to a see also section because they lived in the same habitat). But otherwise, that edit wasn't bad. 20:12, February 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * The see also sections aren't just for characters in the same game. 20:15, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Multiple edits
Hello! I noticed you've been making a lot of edits to the same page over a short time. Doing this puts a large strain on our server and clogs up the recent changes. So instead of saving a lot, use the "show preview" button next to the "save page" button. It'll allow you to view your edit for any mistakes so you don't have to make a lot of fixing edits or additional ones, okay? 04:33, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok! Jeangabin 09:08, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

New Plan
We've really gotta discuss how to proceed with those See Also sections. You're right that many of these things could/should link to one another. However, the "See Also" sections are meant to complete the information on the article. Link for example could use See Also sections to Dark Link, Links, Wolf Link, etc, etc, etc. Bc essentially they are the same topic. I'm looking over and cleaning up the ones you have now, so don't worry about changing those.

One alternative idea, we do this alot around here. We have navigation templates, We can group some of the similar things/people/enemies, etc and make a new nav template. For example, you placed the teachers in See Also sections for one another; problem is, Tina and Dina have nothing more to say about Ms Marie. I'm assuming you did it bc they are teachers, that's one potential nav template right there, "Template:Teachers". It's too small to be a category, too unconnected for a See Also section, but would make a nice sized navtemplate for even Teacher, Blade Brothers, Oshus, etc. 07:18, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll try it. Jeangabin 14:33, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Minor edits
A lot of your edits are very small - changing the size of an image, correcting a typo, adding blank fields to infoboxes. When you make these changes, please can you check the box marked "This is a minor edit". Thanks very much. 15:20, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * OK!! Jeangabin 16:46, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You can also go in your user preferences and check the box "Mark all edits as minor" under the "editing" tab. That will automatically check the "minor edit" box for every edit. I keep mine set that way. 16:50, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I'll try it. Jeangabin 18:04, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

We appreciate your cooperation on that. We aren't trying to bully you or anything, this is the only way we know how to teach people the ropes. Mistakes are made, then pointed out and corrected...the cycle continues. 21:54, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * OK! Jeangabin 00:34, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hehe...he's right. Check the archive of my earliest user talk page here. I got a bunch of "Hey, cut it out" messages, too :P In fact, 99% of those messages are explanations XD 00:40, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Advice
Hey, man, these multiple edits are killing me. I can't see anything but your edits in the recent changes. I suggest copying a page to a document and working offline on it. When you finish, simply replace the content with your document's content. Just make sure to copy the text from the edit view! Hope this helps! 14:41, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok! I'll try. Jeangabin 17:51, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Article Standards
Hey there! I noticed in pretty much...all? Of your recent contributions that you've been swapping the uppercase "A" for a lowercase "a" in the See Also sections and that's actually against our article naming standards. Where it clearly states that all words in a title and subtitle are supposed to be capitalized. 00:07, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'll make sure to remember that!! Jeangabin 00:21, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Many Featured Article like Link and Princess Zelda have the See also section with a lowercase "a", shouldn't we standarized articles after with Featured Article as model? Jeangabin 20:52, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Great Work
Hey Jeangabin, you are really helping us out in terms of article harmonization and internal wikilinks - two facets of wiki-ing that are often overlooked, but extremely important in the name of consistency and navigation! Keep up the good work, and happy editing! =) 16:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh! Thank you very much!! :) Jeangabin 18:51, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Cipriano speaks my mind again here :p You've become quite the regular. Have you ever considered joining our Skype chat? I think we'd feel more comfortable giving you autopatrolled status or something to help us out if we spoke to you a bit more and had a clearer idea of what you're working on. I realize a good bit of your edits had been reverted before, but as a percent of the whole, it's a rather small amount. 12:27, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I don't have that much time right now, but maybe soon.. Jeangabin 21:40, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it really doesn't require much time. I leave Skype open all the time while I edit. You can find a direct link to the download here. Consider getting it, because it's a huge aid to everyone. 23:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Multiple Edits
I admire your desire to improve the wiki, but please can you find a way of doing it that doesn't involve repeated multiple edits to the same page. 10:10, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Both Wikis
Hiya. I am Raffle. I do not edit much at all, but I do visit ZeldaWiki and Zeldapedia sometimes. I saw your name and it looks so familiar. I am sorry if I am wrong but do you edit Zeldapedia also? Maybe I saw it on ZeldaWiki and didn't realize. Sorry to bother you. You do not need to respond if You do not want too. Raffle 22:33, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi! No, I didn't edit on Zeldapedia. But sometimes on wikipedia. My pseudo is also the name of a famous french actor, Jean Gabin. Jeangabin 01:00, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Adding Japanese names to articles
Hey, Jeangabin! Just wanted to tell you that instead of adding the Japanese names next to the character's name, it is recommended that you add it using the Names template:

http://zeldawiki.org/Template:Names

The template usually goes at the bottom of the page, as shown in in this page. Thank you!
 * Ok! Jeangabin 06:12, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Zeldapedia
I have seen you take info from ZP for quite a while. Its been in small doses so, I havn't really cared or felt the need to complain, but you just made it blatantly obvious since you were just online at ZP. If you do not plan to edit both wikis actively, there is no way I can continue to allow you to blatantly steal our ideas and bring them over here. So please stop. --EDJoe45 13:33, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * What?? I don't steal anything, I've only start editing on ZP. And how can you say anything is your idea since everyting comes from the Zelda series?!! Jeangabin 13:43, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No, thats the thing, you don't edit both. Granted you have made 3 or so edits to ZP, so I won't say you don't edit at all. But the amount of unbalance here is disheartening. Because you aren't helping both of us equally, I cannot just allow you to come over, look up good info we have, and simply move it over here. And yeah, info comes from the Zelda series, but that doesn't mean you can't rip it from our wiki like you just did with the character lists and have done in various other places in the past. And I by no means am saying you do it all the time, but you do do it. --EDJoe45 13:48, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You know, I want to help both. People on ZP also do it sometimes; I've found some content on ZP strangely similar to what I have edit here, and I haven't complain. Jeangabin 13:56, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I apparentally have two names or something... that was weird. Anyways, I am sure people probably do. But there is also a lot of one time editors and stuff like that. But when it is made extremely blatant I really have no other options. --EDJoe45 14:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Joe, you should be glad that he's attempting to edit for the both of us, he's making sure there is consistency between his edits across wikis, even if it is unbalanced. And I guarantee users from ZP have come over here (and possibly still do) to snag info, however, we do not go over to ZP, stalk, and ride them for it. It's all the Zelda series anyway, and there is no problem in researching on a different wiki for something that may not be here. Our wikis should be working together instead of relentlessly attempting to find moles in a similar system! 15:25, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Joe, please. We are not on ZP harassing your members over petty little trivialities. No one is bothering you, but it seems like at random you just come over here and throw a hissy fit about something or another. Joe, ZW and ZP are BOTH encyclopedias, regarding the Legend of Zelda series, so there are going to be similarities regarding our content. If you continue harassing our members I am sorry, but I will not hesitate to block you, sir. 19:25, April 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Jean, you aren't obligated to do anything at Zeldapedia. We ignore their plagiarism accusations when they don't even bother to offer links, and they tend to think they are staff members here as well as they bypass us and take their accusations directly to users. You haven't been around long enough to know, but Joe's drama-baiting gets old pretty quick. So best thing to do is not even give him the attention he's after. And if you suspect them of copying things you've added, you're probably right. We've even put false info on an article here and there, waited for their regulars to copy it, then fixed ours; leaving them with the junk bits. Just saying ya know. They've been predicting our self-destruction for at least a year now, and whaddyaknow, we got referred to in a Nintendo Magazine! 05:16, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Autolinking full words
Hey, dude, how's it going? Been seeing this repeat in your work: you've been trying to link to things by typing page's. Unfortunately, the wiki can't autolink the whole word if there's an apostrophe in it. To link those, you'll have to do the old pipe trick of page's. However, links like pages still work. Just remember that for when you do your linking, okay? Keep up all the good work, bro! 20:38, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK! Jeangabin 14:32, 20 April 2010 (UTC)