Talk:Rosso

"Goron"
Where does it actually say Rosso is a Goron? He has Hylian ears. Dekler (talk) 14:19, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

I think, based on his Goron-like but also Hylian-like appearance, combined with the presence of both the Goron symbol and hair, that he is a result of Goron evolution, like the Rito and Koroks of The Wind Waker being evolved Zoras and Kokiri respectively. Fyrisvellir (talk) 08:20, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Either that or he's half-Goron. Fyrisvellir (talk) 08:21, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Rosso displays characteristics of both species: Hylian Ears and clothing, and the build of a Goron + their symbol. It would be speculation to call him just Hylian or just Goron, so in my opinion we should list his species as Hylian/Goron.--LordM (talk) 04:39, 1 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure Rosso is Hylian. He does have some Goron-esque traits, but his skin color, eyes, and red hair don't exactly scream "Goron". Then, too, he's shown to enjoy throwing rocks, but if he were a Goron, wouldn't he prefer to eat them? I think it would be a lot safer to just call him a Hylian for now, and maybe put in a theory section about him possibly being, or being related to, a Goron. It has some evidence in its favor and obviously has some community support, so it should be acceptable as a theory, but it seems too unsupported to warrant being put in as fact. Setras (talk) 04:57, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * His skin color and eyes bear a strong resemblance to the Gorons in FSA, more so than any Hylian, combine that with his build, the fact that he lives on Death Mountain, and the presence of the Goron symbol, and I think that he has equal evidence for being part of either race.--LordM (talk) 09:29, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Rosso should be listed as a Hylian. I think his Goron-like features should be listed as trivia, not a theory. Rosso wearing the Goron symbol on his belt is not evidence that he is a Goron. His hair and belt are clearly homages to Darunia, but that doesn't make him a Goron. --Joshua (Yumil) (talk) 15:27, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Race Debate
Given some who have raised issues over proof of Rosso's race, I propose to remove the race from his info box entirely until we have direct confirmation of his race. However, the theory section where speculation about his race is raised should remain, as it is under a proper theory section and label, and there are multiple pieces of evidence that are worthy of mention (appearance, living/working on Death Mountain, Goron symbol, etc). Ghirahim87 (talk) 20:23, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Look at Rosso's body structure, Rosso is big and muscular, but he definitely doesn't have rock-like compositions on his body like Gorons have. Also, he does not live on Death Mountain, he lives next to the Lost Woods, but his work place is on Death Mountain. Rosso can't be a Goron because he doesn't eat rocks, he breaks them for a living, he has ears, and does ot bear any symbols on his body at all.  Not only that, his portrait is found in the Ice Temple, you can't base species just because his "Belt" has the Goron Symbol engraved on it.  --Vaati The Wind Demon (talk) 20:44, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It is clear he is not strict Hylian, and the symbols have been used to indicate relations to other races in the past, see . He is clearly meant to evoke the look and feel of Gorons.  The theory section should stay and no official race should be listed for him until we have specification by the developers.  Ghirahim87 (talk) 21:16, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Theories are fine, as long as they are explained properly. If your refering to Makar, Medli and Kamali, Eiji Aonuma said that the Rito Tribe evolved from the Zora Tribe and the Korok Tribe evolved from the Kokiri Tribe, so it's obvious that they would be using the same symbols because technically, they are the same. But we can't use that on Rosso because he doesn't have a *Group* of his own like Makar, Medli, and Kamali do and Gorons still existed in that timeline. Also, no olden Zoras, besides Laruto's Spiritual Soul or olden Kokiris besides Fado's Spiritual Soul appear in either the Adult Timeline, Wind Waker, or Spirit Tracks as of yet, just treasures from the Zora Tribe have ever been mentioned or seen from them, however, Gorons in the flesh have appeared in Spirit Tracks unchanged. In the Decline Era, the only time I can recall that Gorons have appeared where in Holidrum and Labrynna, unchanged too. --Vaati The Wind Demon (talk) 22:34, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The same grounds that were used to justify the ancestry of those from can easily be applied to Rosso.  There isn't a thing different between these cases.  Just because Gorons appeared during the era of the Oracle games does not mean that the Goron race and the Hylian race may have mingled in Hyrule in between.  Your arguments against Rosso being of Goron descent seem very flimsy to me, as they aren't grounded in rational thought.  It's pretty clear the game developers intended us to recognize him to be of Goron descent in some way.  Ghirahim87 (talk) 04:26, 8 December 2013 (UTC)