Talk:Song of Storms

Guru-guru
Anyone got any ideas as to where Guru-guru learned the Song of Storms in Majora's Mask? If the song was made by Flat to act against his brother after death, then how did Guru-Guru learn it? Is it because the troupe travels far and wide and he might've learned it from some obscure mystic near Ikana? Or did he break into the graveyard and learn the notes? Ideas, please. 14:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)Tounushi


 * It is most likely a reference to his Ocarina of Time counterpart. In that game, there is no known source of the song, yet Guru-Guru knows it. In Majora's Mask, there is no way for him to know it, but he does. It is a reference. A developer joke. 23:11, October 8, 2008 (UTC)

Trivia section
"A time paradox is created in Ocarina of Time. According to Guru Guru, Link played the Song of Storms as a child to speed up the windmill, yet Link is taught the song by Guru Guru. Because of this, it is not clear exactly how Link originally learned the song to have played it to Guru Guru in the first place. However, Guru Guru might somehow have the ability to exist outside of time for moments, therefore creating an effect similar to the Happy Mask Salesman in Majora's Mask."

Well, the author of this part might be right - if it's assumed time is a flexible, changable construct. However, the other interpretion of time is that it is constant and unchangable - so if you travel to the past and try to prevent something, it might be exactly that thing that caused the thing to exist in the future. Or in other words: Guru-Guru might have known the song in the future because Link did already teach it to him even though he didn't teach it to him yet in the past, but he will sometime in the future of the past (hard to explain) - Link is unable to change the future because time is supposed to be a set line of events. Or here a little chronic: Link's first arrival in Kakariko; first time meeting Guru Guru - time travel to the future and back - second meeting with Guru Guru, teaching him the Song of Storms - 7 years pass - third meeting with Guru Guru, he teaches Link the Song of Storms. I hope you get the point.

So what am I trying to say? There's not that much paradox in there.

Have fun wracking your brains thinking about where the Song of Storms actually came from in this whole circle and combining this "time is constant" business with the growth of Magic Beans. (-: Graf-Ganon 20:11, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Umm...what exactly are you suggesting? (And please don't swear) 20:41, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


 * That's a bit over-thinking it. It's a game. The developers don't go that complex. It's just a simple paradox. Nothing more or less. 18:30, February 26, 2010 (UTC)