Talk:Eye Symbol

Should This Article Be Merged?
Should this be merged with Sheikah? It seems silly to separate the two, being as they are so closely connected. --~Count Olaf~ 22:54, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

For Merging
I honestly don't think the eye symbol (without the tear) merits a page. I think the Sheikah symbol part should be merged, and the other parts deleted. I mean, it's not like it is the confirmed symbol of evil. --~Count Olaf~ 02:00, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Against Merging

 * No. The Sheikah symbol is an eye with a tear. Just an eye is the generic symbol for evil. They are not the same thing. 23:41, 27 March 2009 (UTC)


 * These pages shouldn't be merged. As stated by TotG the eye symbol and Sheikah symbol are slightly varied. Not on all of the occasions that the eye symbol is seen in TLOZ series does it necessarily refer to the Sheikah, such as in aLttP and in the Twilight Realm. 00:09, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The pages shouldn't be merged. As stated, the eye may/does not always refer to the Sheikah tribe. Although, the Eye Symbol article is in need of attention. --DekuLink 03:15, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Sheikah Symbol, not Eye Symbol
I suggest that this page be renamed to Sheikah Symbol. Granted the symbol has been used by non-Sheikah folk before, the symbol primarily represents the Sheikah. This is especially noticable in Impa's sage window in The Wind Waker and in The Shadow Temple, as the 'face walls' resemble the symbol if closely looked at. Plus Impa and Shiek obviously wear the symbol. As you can see, it better represents the Sheikah and should be called the Sheikah Symbol. The Goron Moron 09:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I disagree. Entitling it Sheikah Symbol makes it sound like this is suddenly only the Sheikah symbol, which it isn't. I think the article would be best as Eye Symbol, referencing its similarities to the Sheikah, but having space for the many non-Sheikah references. I feel Sheikah Symbol is jumping to a biased conclusion, which isn't something an encyclopaedia should do.  09:55, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As the opening paragraph points out, the eye symbol "is often associated with the Sheikah tribe". It's not exclusively used in connection with them, and there at least two recognisable variants (with or without teardrop), possibly more. It's actually quite a generic symbol, hence the generic name. The only other option I could see would be to split the article into "Eye Symbol" and "Sheikah Symbol", but I don't believe that there's enough factual evidence to do that without guessing or making assumptions. 16:21, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


 * There have been cases where other race symbols have been used in other ways. The Zora symbol is also closely associated with Nayru, through her pearl, and is also the symbol for the Tune of Ages. The Gerudo Symbol have been used by Veran and Onox, and we don't know what race they may be. The Goron Symbol has appeared on Armos Statues, which have appeared in a number of OoT dungeons. And yet those are still associated with their races.  The other Sheikah symbol uses could just be because the Sheikah are close to the Royal Family, and thus share their symbol with them. The Howl Stones and Gossip Stones for all we know may have also been used for the Sheikah folk as well. The Goron Moron 18:41, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Teardrop Meaning
I recall hearing somewhere that the "teardrop" was added to the symbol after the betrayal of the Sheikah by the Hylians. I can't seem to remember where. Was it the manga? 00:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I believe it was the manga. 02:32, 1 June 2009 (UTC)