User talk:Ando1400@legacy41958204

My absence
So you guys may have noticed that I haven't been in for a while. That's because for the past few days I've been in bed with (what is assumed to be) pneumonia. Woo-hoo! I'll still be jumping in every now and then to check for vandals and such, but the actual patrolling-of-edits is going to be quite backlogged for a while (unless Adam feels like playing a little catch-up for me? :D). Stay radical. 14:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I've noticed that. Because I don't own all the Zelda games, therefore meaning that I'm not one to add knowledge to pages, until I actually finish some games and start buying some classics, I usually look at he recent changes too. I've been noticing and saying "Where's Matt and Ando?". You both have been gone. Anyway, I hope you get better soon. 14:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hows the pneumonia? Fifth day and counting that you've been backlogged. 13:00, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm just about completely back on my feet, actually, thanks. I've been dropping in more and more and patrolling a few edits when the time permits. I've been out of bed for longer than two minutes, so that's good. :P I should be back in full action within the next day or so. 18:05, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Awesome. As for me, I've found out i'll be leaving on the morning of the 18th for a good 3-4 days in Pennsylvania. I'll be back on the 21st then. That saddens me though. Knowing I come back on the 21st means i'll only have a week and a half 'till school starts. In case anybody doesn't know, i despise school. Why do they have to take away 7 hours (In my case) that could be spent with family? Thankfully it's a Wednesday, meaning that I only have 3 days until the first weekend. 18:33, 5 August 2008

Thanks
I have finally decided to be serious with my Zeldawiki account. I am trying my best to help as much as I can. I was just wondering a few things. Can I upload pictures I have saved to my computer? I tried yesterday with a picture I drew of Majora's Wrath but it didn't work. What is jpg? Apparently the picture was lacking jpg. Thanks. CoreyPotter 16:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, you can upload pictures from a computer. I'm assuming that you already know the basic process, as it sounds like you've already tried (clicking "upload file" then browsing for the image). Regarding "jpg", it's a type of file. Other image files are "gif", "png", and "bmp". The Wiki software only accepts certain types of images (.png, .gif, .jpg, and .jpeg). To see what type of image you have, right-click the image and select "properties". It will have a field saying "Type of file: [something] image". If the [something] isn't one of the above types, then the image can't be uploaded, and you'll need to save it as a different type.
 * To do this, simply open the image in an image editor such as Paint. Select "Save as..." and change the file type to an accepted type using the drop-down menu. You can then upload the file.
 * I hope that I made sense here. ;) 16:55, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Some words of Wisdom. First of all, .jpg and .jpeg are the same. They both stand for JPEG (Joint Photographic Experts Group). A JPEG is really only good for complex images that use up to 256 colors. .gif stands for GIF (Graphics Interchange Format). If you have a moving image, you can only use GIF. GIF can move and store up to 256 colors, making them better than JPEG. Lastly, we have PNG (Portable Network Graphics). This can store transparent images. It also holds thousands of colors, making it better than GIF or JPEG. A format i'd like to see this wiki add is MNG. MNG (Multiple-image Network Grahics) is like PNG but supports animation. Too bad IE and Safari are too lame to support MNG. Another reason to use Firefox :D

File formats from worst to best GIF -> JPEG -> PNG. 17:32, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I might add that animated png's are only supported in Firefox 3. 22:16, August 11, 2008 (UTC)


 * PNG, saved properly, is always smaller than GIF. Save a PNG image in 256 colors and it will be equal quality but a smaller size than a GIF image. The only advantage GIF has is animation. The format APNG is better than MNG. APNG displays a still image (the first frame) on browsers, programs, and image previewers that don't support it, whereas MNG just won't show up at all. APNG uses the *.png suffix on files so we'd be able to upload them without having to change the accepted upload formats. A correction to my old statement: APNG is supported in Firfox 3, but MNG is not supported at all. 00:28, August 12, 2008 (UTC)

I am very proud! With your help I was able to get my picture on the Wiki, and I figured out how to put it on my page! I'm so happy! Mjora's Wrath looks so mean and purple! Unfortunatley I ruined the picture( the real one ) by trying to draw Majora's Incarnation in the back. Now it looks like fecal matter. Oh well... But thanks so much you guys!CoreyPotter 01:36, 14 August 2008 (UTC)CoreyPotter


 * Awesome, good job! And also extra points for keeping it on your user page and not trying to add it to the article (since fan art doesn't go on articles). Nice picture, by the way. ;) 04:30, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's an awesome pic! Just remember to write your text, press enter, type the templates in, press enter, type in the next one, ad so on, so it looks nicer. Good first try though, it was a very small mistake. 13:54, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

My brother forced(Yes, FORCED!) me to post a picture that is blasphamous, how do I delete it? I'm still a total n00b about everything here.CoreyPotter 00:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * ??????? Wh-what is that picture?? That's bizarre. But yeah, only administrators (also split into the sub-groups of "Bureaucrats" and "Sysops") can delete things. If you'd like something deleted, type   in that page, and it'll show up in the "Articles for deletion" category. That will let me or the other admins know that it should be deleted.  01:51, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks I noticed that it was deleted. My brother was pissed! Haha. But I can't upload my poster. It will be 3 by 1.5 FEET and my scanner isn't that big.CoreyPotter 17:17, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Dang it. Oh well. At least tell me how awesome it is when you're done. :P 17:35, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Why don't you just scan certain sections of it. Like the top, then the bottom, then we put it together. 18:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking of scanning certain parts, I might do that with my EPIC Wind Wakre poster( I make them for all the games I've played beaten or like. ) But I have been working on a very neat way to right that makes letters 3D and holographic like and it really empahasizes MMs' game effects. Link is hard to draw. I don't know why. I can make a FLAWLESS( almost at least )TP Link but MM and Oot Links I can't get right. Oh well.... Also does any on have any good moon pictures?CoreyPotter 23:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I am going to upload my Wind Waker picture to the Wiki. But I just wanted to know if size would be a problem?Corey Lord of Tacos! 01:00, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Featured Content
Just a reminder. Template:FA/35 is open for the next featured article. We still have to update the script. Don't forget to update the Featured Article schedule. By the way, are we going to have the even-numbered templates like this or like this? I think that including the odd-numbered ones just like a template is better than redirecting. But that is just me. 22:16, August 11, 2008 (UTC)


 * Right. After these past few instances, I've learned to go through the templates to see what's happening first before I decide on one to place the new content. D: Anyway, I believe that the reason I made them redirect was mainly for ease-of-editing - if I see a problem with the current featured content, I go to edit the main page and see which FA / FP template it's calling. Since it redirects, regardless of which of the two templates it is, I always get taken to the one I need to edit. It's just an ease-of-editing thing. It's the quickest way I can think of to getting to the thing I need to edit. 22:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess that is true. The featured article ones seem to need more editing than the featured images do though. But I think we should changed the featured image templates to be like the last one, FP/33. The option frameless works exactly like thumb does only without a frame. It looks a lot better that way. 22:32, August 11, 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, sounds good. We couldn't use "frameless" on images with captions, though; the frame is the only thing displaying them. With "frameless", the caption becomes alt text. 03:23, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * But the captions aren't necessary since the whole template is supposed to be describing the image. It is redundant to have captions. 03:32, August 12, 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh! Right, we're talking about featured pictures, not featured articles. Whoops. :P 05:05, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Did you remember to set the Main Page to stay to be at the new featured content? 01:14, October 7, 2008 (UTC)


 * Er, I thought that Adam did that since he was on pretty much right after the new template was made. I'll get on that. 02:05, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Seriousness, and Images
Hey, I'm right beside CoreyPotter and am taking my ZeldaWiki account seriously now. And one way i have noticed in being helpful with the site is by adding images to pages that need them. So if it is not a bother, is it possible to direct me to some pages that are in desperate need of an Image? OH and 99% of the images i upload are not from any site and are one of a kind Screen Captures taken by me and my computer. Thanks a lot and I'm looking forward to helping with the site :) Onyx 01:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Check here. It isn't a complete list, but it has a lot. 01:19, August 12, 2008 (UTC)


 * And if you're feeling a little ambitious, hitting "Random Page" and seeing what shows up could have its success as well. 03:23, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Permission to create a new page?
Hey Ando, do you think i can create a new (theory) page pertaining to the man who used to live in the house where the well is. Since i have seen a few straight up theory pages, and considering that this one has lots of evidence. Do you think it is possible to make such a page? I'm just wondering cause this theory is really good. It's on the Bongo Bongo. Thanks! Onyx 19:20, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Erm, a theory page? Don't we have one of those? If we don't however, maybe it should be put under a new section in the page Bongo-Bongo. That's where most theories are places (I believe). Either there or your user page... 19:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I mean like the Great Flood that's a whole page based on a theory but the Bongo-Bongo speculation is already on it's page so it doesn't matter either way i guess. K just wondering! Onyx 19:31, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, the Great Flood was an event that occurred in Zelda history. Major events have articles (like the Imprisoning War, etc.). This doesn't strike me as something that would need a whole article. A section on the Bongo-Bongo page, sure, yeah. I'm not even sure what a page about that would be called. :/ "The Man Who Lived in the Kakariko House Who Might be Bongo-Bongo"?? :P Thanks for asking before making a potentially... controversial? article, though. Much appreciated. ;) 03:47, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Image
I finally check my email, so what was the image you needed me to render? 22:54, 21 August 2008 (EST)

"Castle Town" Request Completed
Hey! On the Castle Page it requested that someone put up pictures of the entrances of the Dungeons. I completed the request, and i noticed that you can change that page. So maybe if you could, since the request was completed, remove the request from the page? -Onyx 18:51, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey there, and thanks for your uploads! Unfortunately, as you can see on this page, the request actually ISN'T complete; we still require images for Dodongo's Cavern, the Ice Temple, the Spirit Temple, and Ganon's Castle. Perhaps I should start going through Ocarina of Time again and take some screenshots. :P 05:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * oops! sorry Ando. I only saw the partial list :P NO worries, I'll get started on the rest of the dungeons right away! -Onyx 20:02, 23 August 2008 (UTC) EDIT: Alright! I completed the list just as you asked! Check it out! :D I took the screeshots all by myself :D haha -Onyx 20:58, 23 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, wow! Dude, you're a beast! XD Excellent work, good job. Guess that request is complete. 02:51, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Check out this page! I know it wasn't requested but i wanted it to be similar, so i added screenshots of the opening dungeon cutscenes of Majora's Mask when you first enter it. Is it ok? -Onyx 19:43, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that looks great, actually. Hm, I wonder if we should start doing this for every dungeon? But how to handle the 2D games'? Maybe just a screenshot of the first screen of that particular dungeon? 22:04, 24 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Isn't there a unique arrangement of statues with eyes that follow you in the first room of every dungeon of the Oracle games? That'll do for those two games. 22:51, August 24, 2008 (UTC)


 * Got it! this is the page. I'll probably start working on oracle of seasons tomorrow. Is it good? -Onyx 18:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Indeed it is, sir! Wow, you're pretty quick with this stuff. :O Much better than the maps we had before, in my opinion. 18:45, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Phew! Alright, this page is done: OOS Dungeons. Sorry it took me a few days. I had school stuff to do haha. I barely got to it an hour ago. :P -Onyx 23:56, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * You say "Sorry it took me a few days" as if I'm gonna get mad at you; but you actually did it, so that's totally awesome. :P Say, you wouldn't happen to have a video capture card, would you? Seems to me the only way to get (good) images of The Wind Waker and Twilight Princess; Phantom Hourglass I'm not even sure. :/ 02:24, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll spill my secret haha. Actually Windows Vista has a built in Screen Capturer. and i go to youtube.com and take the images there. Thats how i've gotten 99% of the images i've uploaded. -Onyx 02:32, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Edit Count
What you said made me think... The EditCount extension can provide that same information. It gives you the edit count per namespace. Best of all, it is not the same edit count extension that Wikia has! :P 21:17, August 25, 2008 (UTC)


 * It also provides a parser function that you can use to update your edit count on your page automatically. 21:21, August 25, 2008 (UTC)

I was hoping there would be something like this. Would you be able to post it on your user page? (I know you can with other parser functions). I was hoping there was one for time too, if I'm in a rush sometimes like right now, it would be easier to paste a template than to change the time.

What's Up?
You haven't been around much lately. You just jump in and make a few quick edits and then leave. Is there something going on? I think that there is quite a backlog of unpatrolled edits. I seem to be dominating the Patrol Log right now. And I'm not even trying to. I'm just curious. But I guess I have to be careful. Someone told me that curiosity can kill the Matt. :P 22:03, August 29, 2008 (UTC)


 * Eh, the chemo nausea's gotten a bit worse (I... did mention that I've started chemo for these tumors, right?), so I've been a bit more bed-ridden. When I can, I come in, check edits real quick (mainly those made by newer accounts to verify non-vandalismness), see if there are any pressing issues (vandalism, some discussion, etc.), and move on. I haven't been patrolling many edits made by our "trusted members" unless I've got reason to suspect something. But yeah, thanks for checking in, man. 23:33, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh crap you started chemo? That sucks. Aren't you going to get side effects like hair loss and stuff. Oh, this has got to suck. I feel so sorry for you. Also: 13:11, July 11, 2008 Adamcox82 (Talk | contribs) changed group membership for User:Mjr162006 from (none) to autopatrol ‎ (You make too many edits and too few mistakes ;)). What happened to me? I'd like auto-patrol and i'll do it plz.


 * Well, I think the exact words are "I haven't been patrolling many edits made by our "trusted members" unless I've got reason to suspect something." Trusted member. It's not like either you or Adam check all his edits anyway. Doing that will clear up the unpatrolled edits list a little bit. Perhaps Markol too. 00:11, August 30, 2008 (UTC)


 * I still dont understand why I can't get autopatrol rights. 00:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, that is what I said. You might as well have them. 00:23, August 30, 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh. Misread that! Sorry! 00:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeh, chemo. No hair loss, though; it's a "low-grade" chemo, whatever that's supposed to mean. :P
 * Autopatrol... The point of it (as we use it, anyway) is to catch large amount of similar edits that a user is more or less ALWAYS doing (such as, in your case, Matt, redirect-fixes and template edits, which are basically impossible to screw up and leave that way). However, regardless of autopatrol, I still check all non-purely link-fix mainspace edits, since they sometimes need to be reverted for whatever reason (yes, even the autopatrolled Matt). So really, I see no reason to autopatrol Sea and MARKOL since they rarely make these types of edits. Every now and then, sure, but not as often. Hence, I don't see a reason to autopatrol them. 02:05, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I make tons of Image Edits every now and then. Wouldn't that be a reason? 13:22, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


 * "I see no reason to autopatrol Sea and MARKOL since they rarely make these types of edits. Every now and then, sure, but not as often."
 * Why do you want this so badly? :/ 16:33, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It makes me seem important :( 16:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Tech Issues
I had a little chat with Jason and we figured out why the search bar would not move. But we found out that we need to update a lot of the php and css files. Jason is going to do that soon. That is why there is that weird bar above. Could you put a notice on the main page? Have it say something like: The site is experiencing some technical issues and that they will be resolved shortly. 22:39, August 30, 2008 (UTC)


 * Awesome. I'll do that. 05:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted you to know, I can't really find the time to edit this place anymore. Ever since school started, I've had no more time and can't do it. It also sort of bored me that all I really do is edit pictures and articles. I guess you can take this as a goodbye. In either case, I had fun, but I don't think I'll be coming back. Please don't go crazy over this ;). Bye! 14:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, wow. I figured you wouldn't be showing up as much, but leaving I didn't expect. :/ Well, I guess, uh... maybe see you around, then. 17:22, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Then I guess I'll have to hang tight, with Seablue and Matt gone, things will be much more difficult now. Douken seems very promising, though, he's already made many corrections. 17:48, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha, I know, right? School's back! Matt @ Sea: "aw man can't come anymore guys :(" | Douken: "i guess i run on an inverted school year and therefore have more free time during school???"
 * It's confusing but oh well. Can't do anything about it, I guess. 17:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

--The Sage of Cosmos 20:55, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Sages
Great! Anyhow about e-mail, its a long story but, we have two computers, one had e-mail the other didn't, the one that had e-mail...... got struck by lightning, so I'm typing on the one that does not. Um, about the article on Sages, I would like to find more info, how to explain......Like in a Link to the Past, we have the seven wise men, well in Oot we have the human sages, and if not to make someones head spin more, in TP we have the etheral sages. Okey how did nintendo end up there? Ya know what I'm sayin, so I am looking for something like; did the Sage of Water really die, 'Are there decendents of the sages, Are the sages immortal, did the original wise men die. I think if I look on some small Zelda sites, I might find something worthwhile. But I figured between the two of us, we might be able to make the article more informatory. P.S. I found a good site on the sages, it's called "ZeldaLegends", go to: storyline-storyline articles-articles11 decendents of the sages revisited. or you could type up "zeldalegends decendents of the sages". Either one should work, just ttell me what you think of it.The Sage of Cosmos 23:48, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry that site wasn't as useful as I thought it would be. I checked out the sage article and it really doesn't need much work, someone added all sorts of photos, and articles to it. But, we can still add a few things. do you mind working with theory?The Sage of Cosmos 14:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess we could mess around with the theory. But we should talk it through first before we add anything to the articles. 14:54, September 20, 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm working on a little research and such right now and will post what I think on the Sage talk article. Sorry about the long response time. :P 15:12, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Thats all right. Same for me.The Sage of Cosmos 19:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Ando, I posted my research on the Sage talk article, It's not much, the sages are hard to find anything on, what you do find is usually something written by some dumb a## (pardon me) who thinks they know something. Well I will probally get picked apart for posting a bunch of crap, but whatever. Thanks for helping me out:-)The Sage of Cosmos 22:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey Ando, I just wanted to let you know that I'm gonna be outta town for about 3 days, that and my bratty nieces are visiting for the weekend, I'm thrilled to say the least :/ So hopefully I'll be back in a 3 days, if not, then my nieces drove me to insanity and I'm in a psych ward........somewhere.The Sage of Cosmos 20:55, 27 September 2008 (UTC) And somehow I think I got the sages topic on this page deleted, sorry, I find a way to fix that.The Sage of Cosmos 21:03, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * No probolo. ;) Anyway, I'll try to have some kind of response on the Sages talk page by the time you get back. Yup yup. :D 21:06, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm back from the nut house! Just kidding, I really went on a school trip. But being on a bus, with a bunch of A-holes really made me wish I was graduated :0 Anyway, I just seen what you put on the the sage talk page. I agree 100%. I'm glad we seen eye to eye. You're right about the adult/child timeline. I know alot of people think that ALttP precedes OoT. I tend to believe that, but something just doesn't quite right with it, maybe I'm just crazy.The Sage of Cosmos 22:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I'm finally on the internet, I don't have school today, so I guess I can sit down. I just wanted to ask you a question. It's really just curiosity, but I was wondering what time zone you live in. I just always wonder what time it is to the other person who's typing back to me. If answering that question makes you uncomfortable, then by all means, don't answer it ;)-The Sage of Cosmos 19:43, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, no problem. I'm in Central Standard Time, so the time displayed on the screen minus 5 hours. 02:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm in Eastern Time, no I don't live on the coast.....but I wish I did. Guess we're quite a distance. I always find that interesting, to know what time it is for the other person ;)The Sage of Cosmos 04:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

just for the record
i never meant to be offenceive and im sorry for some of the more um... "explosive" comments on vairious pages. im just pretty used to admins on bulba treating me like dirt all the time. i know. harsh world.Dragonstetraforce 00:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I understand; jerks can very easily ruin one's perception of other people. It happens all the time. But yeah, I'll definitely try not to be one of those crazy admins -- and it's cool, man. I forgive you. :) 01:09, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

thanksDragonstetraforce 15:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Issues
I'm tired of making unused images already. I'll mark them when the become unused. For now though, Why don't you just go over to Special:UnusedImages and take a few chunks out it here and there over the next couple weeks. By the way, we need to change the title of that page to "Used Images". Right now it is "Usused files". It is from the upgrade I guess. We can change the name through the system messages page MediaWiki:Unusedimages. That whit background is getting annoying. It doesn't not take that long to fix. Jason's schedule cannot be that much more busy than mine. We're both in college. It is just changing the default colors to match the rest of the site. It is like this because Jason had to replace all the those php and css files to the new versions. He had to recreate all the changes that he made to the old ones and just missed a few color settings. It's understandable. But this issue makes patrolling (yeah I can't mark them as patrolled, but I still patrol) edits really hard. It is more than an annoyance. He'll be back to update the counter on the main page soon anyway so let's make sure to catch him. 23:17, October 2, 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I can't see a need to change the name of that particular section. If in the future we begin uploading, say, sound files or something and some become unused, they'd go to the "unused files" page as well. It's not like the name is incorrect as it is, either: pictures are still files. I'll definitely start going through those and deleting some. I used to go through them before just catching, erm, inappropriate content. But I guess I should start just mass-deleting, too. No point in having them there.
 * As for the colors, uh, I'm not sure why you're telling me this. It's not like you haven't before, and rest assured it HAS been mentioned to him by several people, on and off the staff boards. I honestly don't know why it hasn't been done. Hasn't bothered me too terribly much, but I wouldn't complain if it were fixed either. I'll post a little note on his talk page so he should see it next time he updates the counter. 00:07, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * yeah, i totally patrolled edits myself pre-sysop status as well. :P i didn't know that the sysops actually had "mark as patrolled" buttons and went through them all already!

Featured
So you show up now. It has been a few days. I swear you have some sort of radar in your brain. It says "Go back now!". I know I was well within the rules now. I did not make up my own rule. It was basic common sense. Those votes are invalid. For the last time it is a fact, not an opinion. I have proven it. So try thinking first. Is everyone against me? Has the world gone mad? All the voters have lost their sense. Adam's been too busy. You're constantly repelling everything I do. I know you don't like change. Well the truth is that things do change. No matter how hard you try it'll still change. So please stop this nonsense and help me. 22:26, October 12, 2008 (UTC)

How were those votes invalid. Where is that rule that allows those votes to be invalid? I'm sorry but when an image has lost, you must let it go.--Link hero of light 23:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep, any time there's a crazy edit, my arms tingle and I'm like "CRAP CRAP CRAP NOOOOOOOO" and I run to a computer. (jk i was actually unexpectedly at a friend's house for the weekend; our timing was just rather impeccable)
 * I like how you claim you've brought facts and proof and stuff and yet I've seen none. All we've got is you saying "well, science says THIS", but how do you explain the three unrelated people who all have the SAME PROBLEM? Remember that whole logo issue, where I can see the logo just fine but you and apparently everyone else you know can't? Yeah, well, science would dictate that a simple image should be able to be see across all browsers and computers, right? And yet we don't see the same thing. Clearly, not everyone is you, and therefore are not having the same problems.
 * Also, I'm not just stubbornly against you or change in and of itself. If I were against change, I would have been against the addition of opposition votes, wouldn't I? If I were against you, I'd have been against your new Featured Content rotation template, wouldn't I? And yet I accepted and embraced these changes because I feel that they're good changes for the Wiki. However, these new suggested policies... I can't say I feel the same about those. Hence, I oppose them heavily as, regardless of whether they're truly "good changes" or whatever, in my mind they're not good, and I'd rather not see the Wiki take the path that they show.
 * Again, you decided that it was within YOUR power to deem the votes invalid and make them null and void, and yet at NO point was that power ever given to you. If there was a particular dictated rule on the page that said "any votes that do such and such will be made invalid", then yes, I'd be totally cool with it, but there's NOT. A method of doing this was NOT discussed with any staff, and you told me yourself that there'd have to be a consensus between several members to discount a vote, and yet all I see is that you seem to have reached a consensus within your own head. The congress in your head =/= Zelda Wiki.org community
 * So to address your final statement: No can do, sir. :) 01:48, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * "So try thinking first." STOP THIS OR I SWEAR I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE WITH EVERY FIST ON MY BODY (sysop speak: Personal attacks are unacceptable, and if you'd been attacking anyone else, I'd likely have temp-blocked you by this point. I hate to be telling YOU this, Matt, but watch what you say -- it's getting completely out of hand now.)


 * Well fine then. I give up. I know when I'm defeated. But you have to know that I know full well everything that you have told me. It is just that when I see something I perceive as wrong and unjust I go at it. Here is a little story: Remember my complaining about how crappy my old PC monitor was? It was literally as piece of ****. (Just use your imagination as to what that word was. As far as seeing those image my monitor was as worse as it could possibly get. I was not just hard to see, it was solid black. Could not see a thing. But the new one was crystal clear. It was perfect. My was the worse possible scenario. And it turned out that way. Now on this laptop, I adjusted its brightness settings with the monitor controls, changing the brightness, gamma, and contrast with GammaPanel, by changing the lighting I'm viewing it in, and by adjusting the angle on the laptop monitor (oh crap! Comma nightmare!!). There was only one case where the old one looked better. That one was with average lighting and with the screen flat. It inverted the colors of the images. So I did not just declare that I'm right. I won the science fair two years in a row (only our middle school did it). I know the process. I tested over and over. It was conclusive. If this was my own image I'd be really mad. But I'm not mad. All I saw was people making a simple mistake and I tried to fix it. That's all. I never tried to personally attack anyone. That was not my aim or intention. Remember that I got the image of you waving you're... umm... well you know. So I guess were even. You thought I was attacking you. I wasn't. I thought you were being a dumb tyrant (yeah... dumb right). And that could not have been farther from the truth. You can tell I'm not a person that just sits back and let thing just happen. I have to get in there and set things right. My intentions were always for the better of the wiki. So I think we can declare that first policy a failure. I think we can withdraw it now. There is no way that'll ever  go through. Can't you see though the good behind it. My concern was for those many users that won't get their chance to vote on something because other, more regular members have boot it out. I know that our regulars know more about how the site goes. But that doesn't mean that our other members are incompetent. Yes I know no one ever said that. But it is definitely what one of them might think when they read what you said.I never think of you as an enemy. More like a debate opponent. I have to bring back the point I brought up before. Theme of Zelda? Combat! Combat against evil. Yeah we don't fight evil here... Oh wait... damn vandals. Well besides those bizarre people, everyone else here is okay. (Seriously, what the heck do vandals get out out it!?!? Some high or something. What the crap goes on in their minds?! Do they have minds? :D:P). Nothing sharpens our skills and our minds like a good debate. So let us continue with the improving the site. Bye the way. There are files to be deleted. Most are not marked. Onward! 03:58, October 13, 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey man, I know what you mean. You see something you see as wrong and you do what you can to try to fix it. I know that everything you've recommended is with nothing but good intentions for the Wiki, and I can see what the noble goal is. The problem is just that I think that the negative effects of some of the suggestions outweigh the good. At no point did I ever think, though, that you were just trying to ruin anything or whatever. We both have the same ideal of the perfect Wiki -- it would just appear that we differ on how exactly to achieve that goal. But hey, one of your two suggestions is passing whereas the first failed, so I guess it's kind of a win in your favor, win in mine sort of deal? :P
 * It's two in the morning and I'm tired, so I'm not gonna try to get too amazingly philosophical here (although I can be pretty incredible), but yeah, let's work together. Like friends. ;D
 * Oh, yeah, deleting stuff. With the site running at the speed it is, it makes deleting stuff (or even just patrolling) a pain in the rear. It can take anywhere from 1 to 5 minutes to delete a single image, and that's assuming the pages don't give me that "we tried loading for the past one minute two seconds, we give up" garbage. I mean COME ON.  I'll try deleting a bit here and there, but once that new server rolls in, I'll be able to work fantastically.  22:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey!
Yeah I've been busy. I don't know last year was just a real pain for me. I'm getting my priorities straight this year. You know what's really awesome? I'm an editor-in-chief for an online magazine for indie games. Yeah it just happened. It doesn't pay but I've spoken with some people in the industry. Tomorrow I'm going to be talking with one of the team members of the original de Blob game and I'm going to talk with him about his company's new Wiiware game Swords and Soldiers. It's awesome! It's not out yet though because of some employment and design issues but it's okay.--Green 03:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Wh-
 * WHAT
 * That's beyond cool, dude. Let me tell you that I GREATLY envy you. Indie games are the BEST. When that magazine shows up, you let me know, man. I'll be on the lookout for your articles. :D 22:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Lol yeah I promise. If you want um to be any part of it just tell me. We are in need of some journalists and junk. Right now it's mainly me, my other staff members aren't really active.--Green 00:15, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

how do i go about becomeing an admin.
can you tell me?Dragonstetraforce 17:32, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, there really is no process, to be honest. It's basically when the staff deems that we need new admins now, they'll look over some of the frequent members and decide who would be good to add. That's how I became a sysop, anyway. If you want to increase the chances of it happening, basically just hang out here a lot, make a lot of good edits, familiarize yourself with what we've got going here, and just generally be an upstanding citizen of Zelda Wiki Land. Even then, there's no guarantee that it's gonna happen or anything, but the chances will be much, much higher than for the people who just show up every now and then to vote or something. 22:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)