User talk:Adam660@legacy41957735/Archive 4

= 2008 Q3-Q4 (Jul-Dec) =

???
So what, is it like your day off or something? You haven't been this active in quite a while. :P 20:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Onoz, Adam's not active! The world is coming to an end! :P 20:45, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Very funny guys, I'm allowed a life too y'know ;) It seems that lately the "free time" I have inbetween working (exploding servers, etc.) and sleeping (much more relaxing) has been getting ever shorter and more filled with other junk. But fear not, while I may have not been actively editing I've still stopped in from time to time to check this place was still here (check the patrol log if you need proof!) On a side note, one of my friends (who lives in a shared house) is going away for a few weeks and asked if I wouldn't mind babysitting his PS3 for him until he got back. Clearly, I couldn't refuse... so you'll know why I'm not around for the next while at least ;) But on a serious note, you'll know when I've actually abandoned this place for good, because the entire internet will actually come to an end, I'm just that important. If you'll excuse me, I'm off to inflate my ego now... 06:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am. 12:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I sense some overly-inflated egos here! It is to be expected. We all have this issue. (^¿^) 12:48, July 3, 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am. 13:07, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, Seablue...I CANT HEAR YOU!!!! PS. I think stalkid might be around...--Stalkid 18:03, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Day off again? It been forever man! What was is? Oh yeah... Nine days. Been busy or something? 05:51, October 15, 2008 (UTC)


 * Awwww, Matt did you miss me so much that you've been watching the patrol logs, waiting for me to come back? I'm touched ;) Seriously though, I was away visiting family for a while, then it was my birthday, and inbetween that and work the little time I have been able to spend here was hampered by a combination of the recent performance issues, Monday's server crash and my own intermittant internet connection issues. But fret not, although I may not have edited I have been here in "passive mode" dropping in occasionally to make sure there's no crisis that needs attention. And with the super-low contribution levels in recent changes lately, it seems that Ando and the rest of you guys have things well under control :) 06:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well... That was fast. Yeah... There have been several crashes. Those should be over now. That was part of what was responsible for the low contributions. The site has been slowing down in the last few months. Happy birthday! See you later. It is really late here now. 06:38, October 15, 2008 (UTC)


 * HAPPY BIRTHDAY ADAM
 * If I'd known it was your birthday, I'd have baked a cake! Granted, you couldn't have come over and eaten it, so it'd be up to me to do that, but, you know, whatever. 14:38, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Sig
Dude, did you just your sig on MARKOL's talk page? Because it sure looks like it copied the whole dang signature onto there (which kind of defeats the point of having small sigs!). 15:34, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Seriously man, are you stalking me? I get a message from you less than 5 minutes after I make a mistake - I feel violated :O
 * Just kidding - it took me a minute to piece together why it was happening (and I'd already wondered why Matt advised to create a \sig2 page to point back to \sig), before I realised that the new nickname field automatically adds SUBST. Anywho, fixed now so i'll get back to installing extensions and stuff. 15:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm... I was wondering if everyone fully understand how to use the nickname box yet. You know, how to make it so it does not substitute you entire sig's code. 15:45, July 12, 2008 (UTC)

Aw man. Ok then. I'll fix it in a second.


 * Ummm.... I think that this is a little too distracting. You might want to reconsider it. I'll already had to dull down mine once because it caught too much attention. 05:49, July 22, 2008 (UTC)


 * How about replacing the ? in the beginning with a ¿ That looks more like an "A". 05:57, July 22, 2008 (UTC)


 * Weird, again I have this feeling that you're watching me... Anyway, I took the colours off it. The change I made by adjusting the letters didn't contravene any of the rules, so I think we need to be careful to avoid adding too much personal judgement; if a signature contains only the basic elements, and a not-excessive amount of colour (and adheres to the other explicitly stated rules), it should be allowed. 06:03, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm just unable to sleep at this time. You might be able to put some color (a.k.a colour) back. I am not even certain what is acceptable, so you might want to check with Ando and see what he thinks. He was supposed to be coming back here really soon. At least, that is what he said. He was going to modify page histories to remove embarrassing vandalism from the history pages. He said that doing it now would be better than during the day, on US time that is. It is 1:00 AM here. It is 6:00 AM over there right? I don't actually know when you've got to leave to go to your job. 06:06, July 22, 2008 (UTC)


 * I have to leave in like 10 minutes so I'll be brief. And please don't poke fun at my language, it's been around a lot longer than yours ;) (joking) I was bored of those colours anyway, so I might recolour it at some point. One interesting thing that you've hit on is the display of the characters themselves. This is what you should see: [[image:mysig_adamcox82.jpg]]
 * This would indicate that you don't have the required language support on your machine to render all characters shown in the new editing character-box. Maybe you wanna do a screenshot of what you see, so it can be compared to the functional version? 06:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Well then, that is that. I think I can get this a little bit fixed. But is there another way to update the language support besides going through Windows Update? Because the best that Microsoft has released for XP is does not cover all of what is available. Those of you with Vista can see a lot more than I can. The Unicode website rather conveniently neglects to mention how to actually update your Unicode support. I do not have SP2 installed. That is because of an error cause by another program. I will uninstall said program and see if that works. You're probably gone now. But I can wait. 06:28, July 22, 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah...the one time Vista doesn't crash and burn... 13:34, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, seems I've slightly misled you in what I said above. From what I've read, it would seem that the issue lies with a lack of proper unicode support within Firefox itself. I expect that if you were to view this page with IE, you'd see the characters in my signature rendered correctly. Apparently the issue is resolved in Firefox 3; let me know if you need any more help and I'll see what I can dig up :) 17:38, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Unicode Support
Since you asked, I'll tell you. There are some characters in the edit toolbox that do not show up on my PC. I'm assuming that if I click on them, they will still be added correctly and you'll be able to see them. But just in case, I'll add their locations.
 * Just after ¤ and before ฿
 * Just after ฿ and before ¢
 * Just after ƒ and before ₭
 * Just after ₧ and before £
 * Just after £ and before ₨
 * Just after ƒ and before ₭
 * Just after ₧ and before £
 * Just after £ and before ₨
 * Just after £ and before ₨
 * Just after £ and before ₨

That is everything. I have had no luck installing SP2. It keeps on saying that I have a debug version of windows and not the retail. That, of course, is flat-out wrong. I bought it at Best Buy years ago. I really hope I don't have to re-install it. That is too much work. I know how of course. But it is just too tedious. 21:43, July 23, 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, it's not just you. I've got Service Pack 3 (got a new computer and down(up?)graded to XP :D) and I still can't see the ones that you've pointed out. What are you using, Adam? Nevermind, I just read that it's a Firefox issue. YUP YUP. 22:10, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Switch from Vista to XP? I would consider that an upgrade. :P. No, really. I would ! Those character don't show in Word, so I'm guessing that they are not in SP1. I do not know about SP2 or SP3 though. So, Ando,what is your new PC? (Laptop, sleek desktop, etc.) Its brand? (Dell, Gateway, etc.) If it is a laptop, does it have a button equivalent to the middle mouse button? 22:33, July 23, 2008 (UTC)


 * I can see all of them now. Seeing as I'm on Vista now... 23:48, November 15, 2008 (UTC)

Issue
Here I am, adding my newly uploaded image to my page, and I get "Cannot make thumbnail. Something wrong with destination path." or something to that effect. Uh, wut? Can you please explain? s


 * No idea, something happened 'cause I was editing a page, tried to save it 20 times and got "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data" every time. Had to clear my cache and saved session data, uncheck "Show preview on first edit" in my Editing Preferences, log out and back in before it cleared! Could be server issues, but more likely Jason or someone else making some changes. Keep an eye on it and let me know if you see any other issues, ok? 21:13, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I've been having issues, too. I'm trying to make a new template and Firefox gives me that "the server connection was reset" thing over and over and I can't do anything about it. Let's see if it works this time! 21:16, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank goodness. I thought I was going crazy or something. So it wasn't just me. Could this be related to hack at ZU? I thought all the major repairs over there were already done? Well, I don't know for sure. 21:23, July 27, 2008 (UTC)


 * UPDATE: Jason be having problems with the server. 21:50, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Error creating thumbnail: Unable to create destination directory <-- The error. 22:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

A Little Help
Since it was your idea, could you help with implementing the plan for the trivia section of Happy Mask Salesman. The plan you proposed here. The images are too dark on my end, and my brightness is calibrated to be in real-world colors ( What? it is faster to type "color" than "colour"!.:P ) So I might go and brighten them up a little. But I'm not exactly sure on where to go with the trivia section. 16:20, August 23, 2008 (UTC)


 * Seriously, they're too dark? On my monitor their brightness is way too high, so much so that I'm surprised at myself for not fixing it before I uploaded them. I think your need to consider adjusting your monitor if possible. Anyway, I added the section (thanks for reminding me), and I also flagged the entire article for improvement. In my opinion, the layout is quite poor ("intro" section is far too long and needs to be subdivided by game, and the current section headers and ordering are confusing and unprofessional). Anyway, I have most of this week's edits to patrol at some point, so I'll leave it to others to tinker with for the time being. 17:41, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Feature Image Nomination Question
The Phantom Hourglass Scene. What about this? I like that one better. We could crop it to look like option A. 20:34, August 24, 2008 (UTC)


 * Hold on, I can get a version of Option A without the logos! I'll work on it. 20:42, August 24, 2008 (UTC)

Can you give it the faded borders? it looked cool like that.

Maybe. A larger version of the Gamehiker one can be found here. 20:48, August 24, 2008 (UTC)

That looks good, if you can get it with the background without the logo, that would be great.


 * I wasn't able to get a satisfactory shadow effect. But I did get a equivalent version made without the logos. I'll leave the decision of whether or not to replace the currently nominated image with this one up to you, Adam. 06:37, August 25, 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm, not sure. One of the reasons I liked the one I selected was that it is hi-res, whereas this one seems like it's just been stretched to make it larger. In full view I can see too much distortion etc. What would be really nice would be if MARKOL would be so kind as to create a transparent-background png render of the white bg image you suggested. That would be a nice replacement for option B (I wouldn't wanna substitute out option A as some people have already voted for that image, and I find the logos to be quite inobtrusive). 08:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I actually may be able to remove the logos from option A, but we'll see, I'll try it out.


 * I have a better idea. The only real issue in my version is the shield. It looks fuzzy, the rest is fine. The background on mine is good. So we can cut out the subjects on the current version and use the background from my version. It is that simple. 20:21, August 26, 2008 (UTC)

How did you get that background?


 * It is the PAL version box art. I found a 2091×2244 pixel image of it. There, I found the link. Here it is. 23:31, August 26, 2008 (UTC)

How's this look?

Looks great. 19:12, August 27, 2008 (UTC) Bye the way... Could you put a time stamp with your posts. Just use four tildes. ~ 

That adds you mname too, though. 19:23, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you have the raw signatures box checked? 19:27, August 27, 2008 (UTC)


 * That worked, thanks. — [ m  a  r  k  o  l  ] 19:34, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Question
I realize that as a sysop you had right to delete that image I uploaded. I'm not sure what you mean when you said "I don't see how politics has any place here". There's plenty of non-zelda, non-nintendo even non-video game stuff on people's userpages so politics should fit right in. Anyway, I'd like to know what you meant when you said " we're certainly not hosting images of this kind". What do you mean by "this kind", it certainly wasn't vulgar. And I'm sure you didn't mean to (so please don't take any offense) but when you said that "we're certainly not hosting images of this kind" it made it seem that I had uploaded something vulgar. Is there anyway you can change that so that someone looking through my history won't think I uploaded something bad. I don't want people think I'm that kind of person. Thank you very much :).--Link hero of light 00:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, we don't want Zelda Wiki.org to be host to political debates. If we show things like members supporting one candidate, then that would open up debate. It just is not worth it and is a waste of space. We'd like to keep such things away from this site. 01:49, September 30, 2008 (UTC)

Anyone who would be looking through your userpage history long enough to form an opinion on my comment there would surely also take the time to see what change was made in that revision. There they would clearly see the title of the image and the caption below it which I removed, and thereby would know the subject it related to. The reason I wasn't more explicit in my description was in order to carefully avoid showing any opinion one way or another on the matter, which I'm also trying to do now, which demonstrates exactly why the content had to be removed in the first place. I hope you understand that I didn't do this because as a sysop it's my right to do what I want (which it certainly isn't), but because it's my duty to do what's best for the community as a whole. 08:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Well thank you very much, I understand now and I'll be more careful in what I upload.--Link hero of light 01:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, no offense Adam, but you didn't really explain at all. Basically all you said is that you have a duty. But you did not say what that duty was. It was just over-dramatized paragraph about nothing. Sorry, but it is true. Care to elaborate? Please spare us the drama and get to the point. Yeah, a little blunt, but that is just me. Telling people to look somewhere else for an answer isn't exactly the best course of action. Just tell him the exact reason. I hate to do this but, yeah... well, it's in my personality and it's hard-wired into my brain. I can't help it. So explain away. 03:56, October 6, 2008 (UTC)


 * Matt, sorry you failed to understand the explanation in there, but I didn't think my grasp of language so poor that the meaning was completely lost. If you re-read my third sentence, you'll see that I'm actually agreeing with and reinforcing exactly what you stated directly above.
 * Also, Lhol had asked me a number of questions and not only had I answered them all, but he replied stating he was happy with the answers. So I'm sorry if I'm now the one being blunt, but I don't see how this response to a specific edit concerns you at all (outside of the more general issues it raises, which doesn't seem to be what you're discussing). 06:21, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow, Matt. I figured you of all people would get it. :/ Don't you think that the last thing we need is some other member popping up saying "hahaha u support that person whats wrong with u" and then a massive political debate happens? Political debates are for elsewhere, not to mention that they're very good at tearing apart communities. Hence, very sensitive opinions are probably better off not shared here. 13:36, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Get it??? I was the one that explained it in the first place. Just look above. Adam simply did not clearly state that that was indeed what he meant. He was very vague and not that clear (yeah, redundant sentence but it works). 16:13, October 6, 2008 (UTC)


 * Err, right. Forgot that. :O But still, I thought that Adam was pretty clear, myself. At least, Lhol and I seemed to get what he was saying. >_> 21:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Wiki question
Hi there. As someone who is skilled with the technical side of MediaWiki, I would like to know if you could please install the CheckUser extension - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/CheckUser - and promote me to sysop/checkuser* here. That way, if people want to know the IP address of a user for a legitimate reason (e.g. spamming, flaming, trolling etc.) then they can, maybe at a page such as Project:CheckUser requests etc. and I could give them the results.


 * CheckUser status can be given on its own, but is not worth it without sysop status since you cannot block the users directly.

It's a lot easier than checking the recentchanges table via the database manually, as they used to do on Wikipedia and other major wikis. Hope this helps. AC. --Sunstar NW XP 18:14, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * (I'm not Adam, but I am a sysop so I figure I should be good to answer this, ja?)
 * We've already discussed installing this extension in the staff area, and the basic conclusion we came to was that the process was more involved than we cared to get into. In the past three years, I only know of one instance in which this would have been useful, and even then it was sufficiently proven that the two people were one and the same. With that in mind, it doesn't really seem worth the more in-depth process, especially considering that only one of our members (the founding member of the Wiki) has access to all the necessary files to accomplish this.
 * Please don't take this the wrong way, but I'm a little shocked that you honestly think we'd give you CheckUser / sysop status. I mean, you seem like a nice person, but you just joined a couple of hours ago, and without any sort of credentials, even. We don't give those kinds of powers to just anyone - they have to prove themselves over several months.
 * Sorry to kind of just tear down your proposal here, but that's just how it is. :/ 18:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow Ando, thanks for edit-conflicting me! Maybe you could give me more than 20 minutes to answer a question someone asked me before jumping in... (Just joking, but edit conflicts REALLY peeve me). Anyway, you basically said exactly what I'd just written, but differently phrased (I was less rude). They do say great minds think alike ;) 18:44, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry for that one. I've done a few MediaWiki installs for friends in university and people's websites. Ando, I didn't realise it was like that: I run a wiki site where people can actually get any status they want/need. Sorry for that. AC. --Sunstar NW XP 18:51, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Haha, sorry, Adam. I just happened to log on and felt I had to answer; I suppose that you HAVE been more active and quick-to-answer these days, so I should have waited a bit. :P (Also, didn't realize I was being rude. Sorry to both of you! Not my intention at all! Please don't be mad. :( Can't stand accidentally offending someone.) Anyway, it's cool, Sunstar - different places have different policies, and I suppose you really couldn't have known. But yep! That's how it works 'round these parts. But hey, if you stick around, who knows what could happen? ;) 19:04, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

About your edit count
You've worried poor Matt so badly that he can't bring himself to ask it himself, so he's had me do it in his stead: Are you subtracting EVERY edit you've made in your Wiki history for your patrol count? I realize it's easier to do that than to count them all, but you haven't been a sysop your entire wiki stay so it's technically a little inaccurate... 06:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC) YES WE'RE STALKING YOU OKAY (nah jk we actually just have the recent changes page open 24/7)


 * Now I can say it. Yes. It has confused my poor brain ever since you put it up all those months ago. 06:40, November 11, 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know it's a crude method, but it's just a quick estimate I came up with to avoid any actual counting ;) I suppose I could find out what date Jason sysoped me, and then how many edits I made before that date, then add that figure on to get my true patrol count... but it's not really that important. Maybe if I get really bored some day - but thanks for your concern guys :) 06:52, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Faron
I had another idea to fix up the Faron image the way you wanted. I'll try it out. Hopefully it will work out. 06:29, November 17, 2008 (UTC)

Dropdown
That is much better than "unneeded". Thanks for that. Any other reasons that you can think of to put on there? Or is that it for now? 07:15, November 26, 2008 (UTC)


 * Just to let you know: I talk with Ando about it on Skype before I edit a MediaWiki interface page, unless I see an obvious mistake. I'm telling you so that you don't think I'm going crazy. 04:29, November 28, 2008 (UTC)


 * No other changes I can think of at the moment (it's probably best to add to them when next coming across a reason which doesn't appear in the existing list). Also, good job on the MediaWiki pages, I've felt for a long time that there was too much missing or under-utilised. Also, welcome to the staff team (formally) at last. And don't take my past (or future) criticism to heart; we may rarely agree, but to be honest, that's probably better for the wiki! 20:50, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks!
 * No problem. I understand perfectly. Pointing out the flaws in someone is important. It is the only way to improve ourselves. 21:14, November 28, 2008 (UTC)