User talk:Ando1400@legacy41958204

Sages
Great! Anyhow about e-mail, its a long story but, we have two computers, one had e-mail the other didn't, the one that had e-mail...... got struck by lightning, so I'm typing on the one that does not. Um, about the article on Sages, I would like to find more info, how to explain......Like in a Link to the Past, we have the seven wise men, well in Oot we have the human sages, and if not to make someones head spin more, in TP we have the etheral sages. Okey how did nintendo end up there? Ya know what I'm sayin, so I am looking for something like; did the Sage of Water really die, 'Are there decendents of the sages, Are the sages immortal, did the original wise men die. I think if I look on some small Zelda sites, I might find something worthwhile. But I figured between the two of us, we might be able to make the article more informatory. P.S. I found a good site on the sages, it's called "ZeldaLegends", go to: storyline-storyline articles-articles11 decendents of the sages revisited. or you could type up "zeldalegends decendents of the sages". Either one should work, just ttell me what you think of it.The Sage of Cosmos 23:48, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry that site wasn't as useful as I thought it would be. I checked out the sage article and it really doesn't need much work, someone added all sorts of photos, and articles to it. But, we can still add a few things. do you mind working with theory?The Sage of Cosmos 14:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess we could mess around with the theory. But we should talk it through first before we add anything to the articles. 14:54, September 20, 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'm working on a little research and such right now and will post what I think on the Sage talk article. Sorry about the long response time. :P 15:12, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Thats all right. Same for me.The Sage of Cosmos 19:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Ando, I posted my research on the Sage talk article, It's not much, the sages are hard to find anything on, what you do find is usually something written by some dumb a## (pardon me) who thinks they know something. Well I will probally get picked apart for posting a bunch of crap, but whatever. Thanks for helping me out:-)The Sage of Cosmos 22:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey Ando, I just wanted to let you know that I'm gonna be outta town for about 3 days, that and my bratty nieces are visiting for the weekend, I'm thrilled to say the least :/ So hopefully I'll be back in a 3 days, if not, then my nieces drove me to insanity and I'm in a psych ward........somewhere.The Sage of Cosmos 20:55, 27 September 2008 (UTC) And somehow I think I got the sages topic on this page deleted, sorry, I find a way to fix that.The Sage of Cosmos 21:03, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * No probolo. ;) Anyway, I'll try to have some kind of response on the Sages talk page by the time you get back. Yup yup. :D 21:06, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm back from the nut house! Just kidding, I really went on a school trip. But being on a bus, with a bunch of A-holes really made me wish I was graduated :0 Anyway, I just seen what you put on the the sage talk page. I agree 100%. I'm glad we seen eye to eye. You're right about the adult/child timeline. I know alot of people think that ALttP precedes OoT. I tend to believe that, but something just doesn't quite right with it, maybe I'm just crazy.The Sage of Cosmos 22:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I'm finally on the internet, I don't have school today, so I guess I can sit down. I just wanted to ask you a question. It's really just curiosity, but I was wondering what time zone you live in. I just always wonder what time it is to the other person who's typing back to me. If answering that question makes you uncomfortable, then by all means, don't answer it ;)-The Sage of Cosmos 19:43, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, no problem. I'm in Central Standard Time, so the time displayed on the screen minus 5 hours. 02:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm in Eastern Time, no I don't live on the coast.....but I wish I did. Guess we're quite a distance. I always find that interesting, to know what time it is for the other person ;)The Sage of Cosmos 04:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about pulling the disappearing act on ya. Yeah, computer issues and lack of time are to blame. Eventually I hope to post the sage article, thanks for your help with that. Well, I see there was a rather epic battle at the bottom of the page, a battle of wits and verbal disagreements, glad I missed it :/ Anyhow, I hope you and Matt are finished with your little .......tirade. lol! Anyway (God do I overuse that word) Do you wanna be friends? I know that came outta left field, but just wondering ;)The Sage of Cosmos 16:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Ha, I understand completely. I've done my fair share of disappearing myself. Yeah, Matt and I seem to have... finished, I guess? (Although, if you'd like to vote on this little gem, that would be much appreciated. Voting's still open for it.)
 * Friends? Absolutely. You can never have enough of them, and I believe you'd make a great one. :D 16:48, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Ando, I think you'd make a great friend too :)I seen the vote, and I seen what you and Matt were fighting about. Yup! I voted against it. This new "rule"....we don't need it ;)The Sage of Cosmos 13:22, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Did the voting for the "No Echo the first voter" possible rule ( I hope you know what I mean, the part 1) did it close already, I wanted edit something I wrote and I can't find it, only the part 2The Sage of Cosmos 18:20, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, yeah, Matt said that it was pointless to keep it up anymore so we took it down and counted it as "failed". Policy two is still up though, yeah. What exactly did you want to do? 18:23, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

I thought I put my opposition in the support section by mistake, It doesn't matter now though :) I make really stupid mistakes when I type. Once on Fanfiction, I gave someone a compliment on their story (at least I thought I did) I thought I wrote "Your characters are interesting" somehow I wrote "Your characters are NOT interesting". Let's just say they sent me a very angry reply. And I have a really weird question to ask you, are you in school? I just wondered, more or less what I'm asking is if you're in collegeThe Sage of Cosmos 23:46, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Nah, you got it in the oppose section. No problem. :P Also, that sounds like a pretty nasty mistake. D: Doesn't sound fun.
 * College? Not yet. I'm taking the year off right now and I plan on going to college for the 2009-2010 school year. 04:40, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, sorry you haven't seen me around. I've been on, just look at some a few things and that's it. We have dial up and I swear that every time I log on, an alarm goes off in someones head and they pick up the phone and knock me off :/ I was just wondering if my past posts on the sages are annoying you, they take up alot of room on your page and they're pretty much useless, you want me delete them?The Sage of Cosmos 18:05, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Heh, don't worry, I know what you mean with the dial-up situation. D: Dial-up is fun. Anyway, annoying me? Hardly. I mean, you're working to attempt to improve the Wiki as opposed to all thems vandalmans. Nothing annoying about that. :) Now we just have to figure out how to implement what we've gained from our discussion into the actual article itself. >_> 18:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Are we online at the same time? pretty much what I was going to say bye bye was my thick text block at the top of your talk page, there is nothing important in there anyway, unless you wanna keep it?The Sage of Cosmos 19:52, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The Ando is always online. Always.
 * If you wanna get rid of it, I'm not gonna try to stop you or anything. You don't just have to, though. :P Do what you will with it, I don't mind. 19:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well maybe I'll leave it on and that way in a few years after we're all older and everything, we'll look back on it laugh? I won't get rid of anything, I'm one of those people that keep old pennys from years that were memorable..or not so memorable. But if it's not bothering you then alright. Change of subject, I live in the northern part of ET, we're going to get snow. Great. We still have leaves on the trees. A few years ago we had a snow when the leaves were still on, we had trees down, power out (for about a week) it was nice way to kick off the winter :P I probally freaked you out now, you're probally like "Freaky kid" Okey I'll stop now ;)The Sage of Cosmos 20:22, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking. Historical value, you know? By the way, I'll be archiving this discussion (along with, well, the rest of the page) on November 1st, so... Yep. 20:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC) I wish we'd get snow. :(

Well, I guess we're...good to go ;) P.S. Are those sayings stupid or what, I still like'em though. Good to go, lock and load, I don't know but I've been told. I think I'm going insane ;D The Sage of Cosmos 20:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I tried out sig. thing on my page, I just typed "hi" pretty much just to see what it would do. Did I mess something up? Oh wait! Don't tell me that there is "Hi" at the bottom of the temp. I bet that's what It is. Sorry. The Sage of Cosmos 14:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

just for the record
i never meant to be offenceive and im sorry for some of the more um... "explosive" comments on vairious pages. im just pretty used to admins on bulba treating me like dirt all the time. i know. harsh world.Dragonstetraforce 00:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I understand; jerks can very easily ruin one's perception of other people. It happens all the time. But yeah, I'll definitely try not to be one of those crazy admins -- and it's cool, man. I forgive you. :) 01:09, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

thanksDragonstetraforce 15:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Issues
I'm tired of making unused images already. I'll mark them when the become unused. For now though, Why don't you just go over to Special:UnusedImages and take a few chunks out it here and there over the next couple weeks. By the way, we need to change the title of that page to "Used Images". Right now it is "Usused files". It is from the upgrade I guess. We can change the name through the system messages page MediaWiki:Unusedimages. That whit background is getting annoying. It doesn't not take that long to fix. Jason's schedule cannot be that much more busy than mine. We're both in college. It is just changing the default colors to match the rest of the site. It is like this because Jason had to replace all the those php and css files to the new versions. He had to recreate all the changes that he made to the old ones and just missed a few color settings. It's understandable. But this issue makes patrolling (yeah I can't mark them as patrolled, but I still patrol) edits really hard. It is more than an annoyance. He'll be back to update the counter on the main page soon anyway so let's make sure to catch him. 23:17, October 2, 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I can't see a need to change the name of that particular section. If in the future we begin uploading, say, sound files or something and some become unused, they'd go to the "unused files" page as well. It's not like the name is incorrect as it is, either: pictures are still files. I'll definitely start going through those and deleting some. I used to go through them before just catching, erm, inappropriate content. But I guess I should start just mass-deleting, too. No point in having them there.
 * As for the colors, uh, I'm not sure why you're telling me this. It's not like you haven't before, and rest assured it HAS been mentioned to him by several people, on and off the staff boards. I honestly don't know why it hasn't been done. Hasn't bothered me too terribly much, but I wouldn't complain if it were fixed either. I'll post a little note on his talk page so he should see it next time he updates the counter. 00:07, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * yeah, i totally patrolled edits myself pre-sysop status as well. :P i didn't know that the sysops actually had "mark as patrolled" buttons and went through them all already!

Featured
So you show up now. It has been a few days. I swear you have some sort of radar in your brain. It says "Go back now!". I know I was well within the rules now. I did not make up my own rule. It was basic common sense. Those votes are invalid. For the last time it is a fact, not an opinion. I have proven it. So try thinking first. Is everyone against me? Has the world gone mad? All the voters have lost their sense. Adam's been too busy. You're constantly repelling everything I do. I know you don't like change. Well the truth is that things do change. No matter how hard you try it'll still change. So please stop this nonsense and help me. 22:26, October 12, 2008 (UTC)

How were those votes invalid. Where is that rule that allows those votes to be invalid? I'm sorry but when an image has lost, you must let it go.--Link hero of light 23:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep, any time there's a crazy edit, my arms tingle and I'm like "CRAP CRAP CRAP NOOOOOOOO" and I run to a computer. (jk i was actually unexpectedly at a friend's house for the weekend; our timing was just rather impeccable)
 * I like how you claim you've brought facts and proof and stuff and yet I've seen none. All we've got is you saying "well, science says THIS", but how do you explain the three unrelated people who all have the SAME PROBLEM? Remember that whole logo issue, where I can see the logo just fine but you and apparently everyone else you know can't? Yeah, well, science would dictate that a simple image should be able to be see across all browsers and computers, right? And yet we don't see the same thing. Clearly, not everyone is you, and therefore are not having the same problems.
 * Also, I'm not just stubbornly against you or change in and of itself. If I were against change, I would have been against the addition of opposition votes, wouldn't I? If I were against you, I'd have been against your new Featured Content rotation template, wouldn't I? And yet I accepted and embraced these changes because I feel that they're good changes for the Wiki. However, these new suggested policies... I can't say I feel the same about those. Hence, I oppose them heavily as, regardless of whether they're truly "good changes" or whatever, in my mind they're not good, and I'd rather not see the Wiki take the path that they show.
 * Again, you decided that it was within YOUR power to deem the votes invalid and make them null and void, and yet at NO point was that power ever given to you. If there was a particular dictated rule on the page that said "any votes that do such and such will be made invalid", then yes, I'd be totally cool with it, but there's NOT. A method of doing this was NOT discussed with any staff, and you told me yourself that there'd have to be a consensus between several members to discount a vote, and yet all I see is that you seem to have reached a consensus within your own head. The congress in your head =/= Zelda Wiki.org community
 * So to address your final statement: No can do, sir. :) 01:48, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * "So try thinking first." STOP THIS OR I SWEAR I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE WITH EVERY FIST ON MY BODY (sysop speak: Personal attacks are unacceptable, and if you'd been attacking anyone else, I'd likely have temp-blocked you by this point. I hate to be telling YOU this, Matt, but watch what you say -- it's getting completely out of hand now.)


 * Well fine then. I give up. I know when I'm defeated. But you have to know that I know full well everything that you have told me. It is just that when I see something I perceive as wrong and unjust I go at it. Here is a little story: Remember my complaining about how crappy my old PC monitor was? It was literally as piece of ****. (Just use your imagination as to what that word was. As far as seeing those image my monitor was as worse as it could possibly get. I was not just hard to see, it was solid black. Could not see a thing. But the new one was crystal clear. It was perfect. My was the worse possible scenario. And it turned out that way. Now on this laptop, I adjusted its brightness settings with the monitor controls, changing the brightness, gamma, and contrast with GammaPanel, by changing the lighting I'm viewing it in, and by adjusting the angle on the laptop monitor (oh crap! Comma nightmare!!). There was only one case where the old one looked better. That one was with average lighting and with the screen flat. It inverted the colors of the images. So I did not just declare that I'm right. I won the science fair two years in a row (only our middle school did it). I know the process. I tested over and over. It was conclusive. If this was my own image I'd be really mad. But I'm not mad. All I saw was people making a simple mistake and I tried to fix it. That's all. I never tried to personally attack anyone. That was not my aim or intention. Remember that I got the image of you waving you're... umm... well you know. So I guess were even. You thought I was attacking you. I wasn't. I thought you were being a dumb tyrant (yeah... dumb right). And that could not have been farther from the truth. You can tell I'm not a person that just sits back and let thing just happen. I have to get in there and set things right. My intentions were always for the better of the wiki. So I think we can declare that first policy a failure. I think we can withdraw it now. There is no way that'll ever  go through. Can't you see though the good behind it. My concern was for those many users that won't get their chance to vote on something because other, more regular members have boot it out. I know that our regulars know more about how the site goes. But that doesn't mean that our other members are incompetent. Yes I know no one ever said that. But it is definitely what one of them might think when they read what you said.I never think of you as an enemy. More like a debate opponent. I have to bring back the point I brought up before. Theme of Zelda? Combat! Combat against evil. Yeah we don't fight evil here... Oh wait... damn vandals. Well besides those bizarre people, everyone else here is okay. (Seriously, what the heck do vandals get out out it!?!? Some high or something. What the crap goes on in their minds?! Do they have minds? :D:P). Nothing sharpens our skills and our minds like a good debate. So let us continue with the improving the site. Bye the way. There are files to be deleted. Most are not marked. Onward! 03:58, October 13, 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey man, I know what you mean. You see something you see as wrong and you do what you can to try to fix it. I know that everything you've recommended is with nothing but good intentions for the Wiki, and I can see what the noble goal is. The problem is just that I think that the negative effects of some of the suggestions outweigh the good. At no point did I ever think, though, that you were just trying to ruin anything or whatever. We both have the same ideal of the perfect Wiki -- it would just appear that we differ on how exactly to achieve that goal. But hey, one of your two suggestions is passing whereas the first failed, so I guess it's kind of a win in your favor, win in mine sort of deal? :P
 * It's two in the morning and I'm tired, so I'm not gonna try to get too amazingly philosophical here (although I can be pretty incredible), but yeah, let's work together. Like friends. ;D
 * Oh, yeah, deleting stuff. With the site running at the speed it is, it makes deleting stuff (or even just patrolling) a pain in the rear. It can take anywhere from 1 to 5 minutes to delete a single image, and that's assuming the pages don't give me that "we tried loading for the past one minute two seconds, we give up" garbage. I mean COME ON.  I'll try deleting a bit here and there, but once that new server rolls in, I'll be able to work fantastically.  22:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey!
Yeah I've been busy. I don't know last year was just a real pain for me. I'm getting my priorities straight this year. You know what's really awesome? I'm an editor-in-chief for an online magazine for indie games. Yeah it just happened. It doesn't pay but I've spoken with some people in the industry. Tomorrow I'm going to be talking with one of the team members of the original de Blob game and I'm going to talk with him about his company's new Wiiware game Swords and Soldiers. It's awesome! It's not out yet though because of some employment and design issues but it's okay.--Green 03:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Wh-
 * WHAT
 * That's beyond cool, dude. Let me tell you that I GREATLY envy you. Indie games are the BEST. When that magazine shows up, you let me know, man. I'll be on the lookout for your articles. :D 22:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Lol yeah I promise. If you want um to be any part of it just tell me. We are in need of some journalists and junk. Right now it's mainly me, my other staff members aren't really active.--Green 00:15, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

how do i go about becomeing an admin.
can you tell me?Dragonstetraforce 17:32, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, there really is no process, to be honest. It's basically when the staff deems that we need new admins now, they'll look over some of the frequent members and decide who would be good to add. That's how I became a sysop, anyway. If you want to increase the chances of it happening, basically just hang out here a lot, make a lot of good edits, familiarize yourself with what we've got going here, and just generally be an upstanding citizen of Zelda Wiki Land. Even then, there's no guarantee that it's gonna happen or anything, but the chances will be much, much higher than for the people who just show up every now and then to vote or something. 22:56, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Admin Template
I've got an idea for a new template. I want to run it by you before actually creating it. It is a simple template that will place our official 2D logo in the upper right corner of a userpage and user talk page. This the same place as on featured content pages. The template would be placed on all our admin pages. I'll dump the code into the sandbox for now. I have it right now to place the userpage in a category listing admins, but not the user talk page. But since we already have a list on the admin page we can just remove the category adding part of the code. That is, unless you want it or something. I'd rather not have the category thing, but I tried to emulate the featured content template. Tell me what you think of it. 07:55, October 17, 2008 (UTC)


 * I actually thought about something like this before, just never actually did anything with it. I see no problem with it, so sure. Although perhaps we may need to choose a different image of some sort? While the template will be on user pages, it's STILL the same image as the Featured Content stuff, right? That could confuse some people who are just browsing user pages and see that image... Though I'm not sure what image to put there, 14:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't think that would be the best image too. But hey, it was very late at night and I couldn't think of another one right away. But the featured content is a 3D image, this one is 2D. We could use my Triforce Logo. I talked with Jason back in August. He said he loved my logo. He said that he'd use it as our official 2D logo if we were not so well known for the one we have now. Our current 2D is sort of our trademark our something. So could that work? 17:02, October 17, 2008 (UTC)

Oh! Right, the Featured template's image is the 3D logo -- the ex-featured template's image is a broken 2D logo, so I guess I got confused. :P In that case, I guess that your idea could work, then. 18:10, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * So I made it. I added it to your page here. I would like it to be on all the archive pages too, but I let you do that. I decided not to have it add the page to a category It should help out new users understand just who they are talking to when on your page. I was thinking it might be better it you added the template to the other admin pages. It would be better that way, I think. It might not matter though. I think it turned out well. It would be nice if we can get the image to link to the admin page. 04:22, October 19, 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, nice. Looks good! I tried everything I could think of to get a link going on that image, but no dice. I Googled it and everything. Couldn't find out how. :/ But oh well, I guess. I'll add them to those pages, too, yeah.  05:18, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Try MediaWiki. That would be the first place to look. I remember seeing it there once. 05:23, October 19, 2008 (UTC)


 * Found it!. It is an extension. Looks really simple to use. We can use it on the featured and disqualified ones too. The extension is: ImageMap. Simple. 16:35, October 20, 2008 (UTC)

Blocking
I was just curious. What kind of block times have you seen? I've seen one second. There is a good one here. I think that one was little funny. Why not do that instead next time you do an infinite block. I think that will be more of a mental shock to vandals than a simple infinite block. It'll send a message "If you vandalize our site, we'll let you come back when you have matured, in twenty to thirty years." I think it is really clever. Practical? No, but it is a good mind game against them. Did you know that if someone blocks you, you can unblock yourself if you are an admin too? Pretty cool. I've seen it happen when a new admin gets a little angry with another one. 05:41, October 21, 2008 (UTC)


 * Hah, yeah, I've seen some crazy block times. I should do that, though. Just because. Although we haven't seen a vandal in years. Years.
 * I thought about testing the whole "can I unblock myself" thing out, but I figured it'd be better not to risk it in the event that I couldn't and Adam wasn't immediately there to unblock me. :P Would be bad. Kind of cool to know that if I ever block myself in my sleep I can undo it, though! 06:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Sig
You're still typing it in by hand???? The nickname box was fixed ages ago. Instructions on how to get it to work are on the user signatures category page. just follow the link in my sig. 02:53, October 24, 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know. I'm cool with typing it by hand, though. It's not like it takes me horrendous amounts of time, nor is it particularly difficult. Thanks, though. ;) 03:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Why not? The way I have mine, I only have to type three tildes. It is awesome! Why wouldn't you want that? 03:30, October 24, 2008 (UTC)


 * Eh, mainly because I'm too lazy to care about it enough when it really only affects me and doesn't really ever bother me at all. :P 05:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * So, where is the logic here? You're too lazy to care? Yet by doing this you'll only have to type three characters each time versus twenty-five. Assuming that it takes twelve seconds to type your sig as-is and one second for mine, after 600 times (which I think is about the number we've each used them so far I think) you'll have spent two hours typing your sig while I'll have only spent ten minutes. Hmmm.... Doesn't make much sense to me. Might as well do it. Ten minutes of your time now saves you two hours later. 06:03, October 24, 2008 (UTC)

Less that I worry about time wasted and more that typing out takes less effort than setting up the nickname box details (and it's only, like, three seconds, not twelve). I appreciate the, uh, concern(?), but I'll do it if I ever feel like doing it. :P 06:16, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Three is thirty minutes. Now you have got me to the point of near explosion with curiosity! Are you saying that you think it is too hard to set up the nickname box? Okay, I lied. I really takes about three minutes to set up, not ten. Perhaps less if you are fast. 06:20, October 24, 2008 (UTC)


 * Seablue was able to do it. MARKOL and Adam did it. Are you afraid? I must know! I cannot contain myself! Curiosity compels me! :P 06:25, October 24, 2008 (UTC)


 * "I'm too lazy to care about it enough when it really only affects me and doesn't really ever bother me at all." + "typing out takes less effort than setting up the nickname box details"
 * The constant theme here is laziness. ;) I'm fairly technologically capable, so it's not like I'd have trouble following directions or anything. (Though in the time we discussed this I probably could have set it up for me and everyone else on the Wiki.) 11:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * also afraid of what i do not even know what fear has to do with this wtf


 * "I'm fairly technologically capable"
 * If that is the case, then I challenge you to do it! 17:59, October 24, 2008 (UTC)