User talk:Rob 64

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 * "My favourite Zelda game so far is the beautifully aberrant The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, due in part to its dark, bizarre themes and unique three-day-cycle system..."
 * "I guess I'm an unbearable pedant..."
 * your entire second paragraph

I- I think that we just became best friends. Welcome to the Wiki, best bud! :P 03:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, hey there! Wait- what? Someone else thinks my being pedantic is a positive thing? Awesome!

Well, then... *cracks his knuckles* Time to get to work. Think of me as the friendly neighbourhood continuity guy. Rob 64 03:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC)Rob 64


 * And hey, you know what's also awesome about Majora's Mask? The NPCs have lives. They have things to do; places to be, people to grumble at, and they're actually affected by what's happeing to the world. In Ocarina of Time, nobody seemed all that bothered that Ganondorf had practically razed the Castle Town, and filled it with undead monsters. In fact, they all moved to Kakariko and had no strong feelings either way (unless the reason why they repeat the same unhelpful phrases over and over again is because they've snapped, and just can't handle reality anymore). In Majora's Mask however, there's a definite feeling of despair, and you can really get involved with the NPCs, and in some cases turn their lives around. It's thought-provoking and emotional, especially the whole Anju-Kafei story, and the attitudes of the people who have given up (Mrs. Dotour, for example), and the way the game looks at death, sacrifice and rebirth. This is evident in the remarkably touching scenes with Darmani and Mikau, and Pamela's Dad (heh, or in fact any scene involving the Song of Healing), who are all in one way or another, freed.
 * ...Sorry, this rant is a little uncalled for, but... ugh, such a beautifully-written game. Not to mention beautifully-presented. Why isn't it on the Virtual Console yet?! I have the N64 version and GCN Collector's Edition of course, but my Pseudo-OCD demands that I keep as many save files together as I can. If only they'd add every Zelda game to the VC (including Gameboy games); then they'd all be sitting neatly on a single SD card, in order of release.
 * ...I really do have problems, don't I? Rob 64 02:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC)Rob 64


 * YES. This is what I try to tell people. Most people that hate Majora's Mask are that way because of the time system, whereas that's really what makes the game. It allowed Nintendo to give the characters schedules which revealed their full personalities and back-stories. Majora's Mask's NPCs collectively have much more depth and character than any other Zelda game, and that's one of the things that makes it so amazing. That along with the constant feeling of despair, doom, and chaos, and you've got a recipe for the most amazing game ever.
 * As for why it's not on VC... Well, I don't know. They've got every other console game up there. Why not this one? Maybe they're waiting for some big milestone (like how they released Zelda II as the 100th game).

Timeline
Hey there. I'm not one for this timeline stuff, but I thought I'd point this out. TP takes place at least 100 years after OoT. Therefore, you might wanna rethink it. 13:25, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I myself would like to know how Majora's Mask takes place and THEN the timeline splits? 13:38, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I know that. I didn't say that it doesn't take place centuries after; simply that it takes place centuries after in the Young Link timeline. Remember, there are only seven years between the two timelines at first. When Young Link leaves for Termina, everything is back as it was at the beginning of Ocarina of Time with Ganondorf still free, who goes on to try to take over the Sacred Realm again (as shown in Twilight Princess). However, with Link in Termina, the Sages were forced to attempt to execute him. Twilight Princess follows.

From Link's adult timeline in Ocarina of Time, however, Link is no longer around (after sending himself back into the past at the end), and so, when Ganon breaks out from the Sacred Realm (as shown in The Wind Waker's prologue), the Goddesses flood Hyrule.

It makes the most sense this way, but of course it could easily be reversed; for example, evidence to suggest that The Wind Waker follows the Young Link timeline is also present- he leaves Hyrule, and so his Triforce of Courage shatters into eight, and of course, The Wind Waker's opening depicts him riding Epona into the Lost Woods (depicted only as a log, so this may not be accurate, but it clearly states that he left).

Then again, those stain glass windows in The Wind Waker depict the sages that we know, which implies that it follows the adult timeline (Link had to have awakened these sages), whereas in Twilight Princess there are a different six sages (whose origins are mentioned as Princess Zelda's tutors, so it is likely that in the absence of Saria, Darunia, Princess Ruto, Impa and Nabooru, the Royal Family appointed its own sages). Also, in The Wind Waker, they mention the Hero of Time specifically -he even has a statue in Hyrule Castle- which shows that his deeds were known. In Twilight Princess, however, there are only vague references to him, possibly started by Ocarina of Time's Zelda (since both she and Link retained their memories after its events).

It could follow either, but there is more evidence for having it this way around.

As for Majora's Mask, touché. That was a mistake; I always couple the two too closely. Rob 64 13:45, 28 July 2008 (UTC)Rob 64


 * I've seen that theory before, it just doesn't make sense since Termina's fate does not effect that of Hyrule, they are parallel universes. Technically, the number of timelines MM splits into would be infinite anyway due to the fact you can go back in time as much as you'd like.

TWW in the child split doesn't make much sense, since according to the prologue, Ganondorf broke away from his seal of the Sacred Realm, but he wasn't sealed in the Sacred Realm in the Child Timeline, but the Adult one. In the Child split, he was sealed in the Twilight Realm. 9:45, 28 July 2008 (EST)
 * Exactly; the child split leads to Twilight Princess, and the child split features Majora's Mask, so all is well here now.

And of course, Termina's fate means nothing to the overall timeline, but it still happened. It is shown in The Wind Waker's prologue. No no, see that's the thing; Link goes back in time lots, but only ever within Hyrule, and then when he does it for the final time, leaving the Master Sword, he leaves for Termina. Rob 64 13:59, 28 July 2008 (UTC)Rob 64

Actually, hang on- I'll post my detailed timeline soon. Rob 64 14:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)Rob 64