Talk:Kaepora Gaebora

They are the same.
I relize that there is a line when young link is near the spirit temple that he says that goes agianist this but there are Gossip Stones that say they are the same both are in the same game. Cloakblade 02:07, 19 July 2007 (PDT)

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Merged Kaepola Gaebola article with this one, because I couldn't find a source for the name. The "L" and "R" in Japanese are the same letter, making it seem to me they just have the same name and that the name "Kaepola Gaebola" is a mistranslation (if it actually exists that is). Also removed the note that he is a Sage, because it's not confirmed he is Rauru's Hyrulean manifestation and because he is said to be the reincarnation of a Sage, but not a Sage himself. IfIHaveTo 06:26, 29 December 2007 (EST)


 * Well I'm not sure if you played Majora's Mask but he was officially called IfIHaveTo, it may have been a mistranslation but he's been known as that for seven years.--Green 16:40, 29 December 2007 (EST)


 * MM text dump, *I* can't find the name. And I don't remember it from my playthroughs (yes, I played MM, but I admit it has been awhile since the last time). I can't find the name in the manual and for what it's worth, I can't find it on Zelda.com. So, what is the source of his name? In my experience, there are a lot of terms and names that either don't have an "official" source or have a questionable source, but are still generally considered the official names. I encountered [Talk:Book of Secrets|something like this] earlier today even.IfIHaveTo 16:52, 29 December 2007 (EST)


 * Hmm, I looked through another text dump and I could never find it either. I too haven't played it in a while so I guess we'll just leave it as it is unless someone with proof can confirm it is Kaepola Gaebola.--Green 23:40, 29 December 2007 (EST)


 * I'm pretty sure IfIHaveTo is right. A google search for "Kaepola Gaebola" generates 24 results (11 of which are, or were, from here and ZU!) Compare that to 9,250 for Kaepora Gaebora, and I'd say that nicely reinforces the evidence above. (P.S zelda.com's entry for Kaepora Gaebora states that he appeared in both OoT and MM, as well as LA and FSA.) --Adam 04:45, 30 December 2007 (EST)

Questions.
The page says: Among the theories revolving around Kaepora Gaebora is the idea that the owl is the reincarnation of the Sage of Light, Rauru. This can't be right. Rauru is still alive, and reincarnation implies death. I always disliked that theory. The gossip stone says:"The owl named Kaepora Gaebora is the reincarnation of an ancient Sage." Rauru still living couldn't possibly be an ancient sage.

Also, there are speaking owl statues in the Oracle games. I won't say it's for sure Kaepora Gaebora, but seeing that the Twilight Princess statues recieved a mention here. Should it be included as well?


 * I read that it was mistranslated and they meant incarnation and not reincarnation. So I guess the theory is that he is the incarnation of Rauru outside of the sacred realm.

Dead?
What? Who said he was dead? "In Ocarina of Time's adult half, Kaepora Gaebora is dead and his grave can be seen in Lake Hylia".

The grave was there to start with. Besides, you can go underneath it, and there's a room full of Deku Scrubs. No sign of the body.

Is this in the Master Quest version? I haven't played that version yet.

This might be on a different version of the game, but to me, right now this sounds like guesswork.

I'll wait for a while, but if I don't get a reply explaining how someone came to this conclusion (just because he isn't SEEN doesn't mean he's dead), then I think I'll be wiping that. --Yuvorias, 16:17 29 April 2008 (EST)