Talk:Bubble

Bubbles, Anti-Fairies and Whisps are all the same enemies
I just want to make this clear, I don't have time to fix this page up yet (it needs a lot of work) but the most important thing to note is that Bubbles, Anti-Fairies and Whisps are all the same enemy. In the original Zelda manual, they were called Bubbles, their Japanese name, but in the guides for A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening they were called Anti-Fairies. Their Japanese name remained the same, however. The Oracle games then introduced the Whisp, which behaved like the Bubble from the original Zelda... this is where things get really confusing. But they are all essentially the same creature. The Whisp is just a variation of the Bubble/Anti-Fairy and the original Zelda's Bubble was also a Whisp. I would suggest arranging the article by game rather than by type, given that the names and properties for such an enemy vary wildly. Violet 17:59, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, maybe by game would be better. That way, we could get rid of all of those infoboxes and, for example, under Ocarina of Time, we could put the Blue, Green, Red, and White Bubbles in under one section. I'll tag this article for needing reorganization. Any other ideas are welcomed, because I agree: this page is all over the place right now. Dany36 18:05, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm...actually, now that I think about it, maybe organizing them by game wouldn't be the best. I see this has been tried before and they just went by type instead. Ahhhh, so confusing... Dany36 18:08, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it would be ideal to go by game THEN type. It would require a complete rewrite, I can give it a go sometime. As it is the fact that this article doesn't mention Anti-Fairies at all is massively misleading as it implies that Bubbles didn't appear in ALttP or LA. Violet 22:14, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Judging by the new way of formatting enemy articles (Characteristics, Variations, Weaknesses... see Blade Trap and Gibdo), I suggest to keep with consistency, the proper way to organize this page is in such a format. The organization by game is a severely redundant way of organization, as we are beginning to see. In this much more focused direction, the page will stay concise, but still cater to all the different Bubble variations. 07:23, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the Gibdo page is pretty good, but that's a monster that has virtually no variations. This Bubble page is all over the place and until it trims down all the variations better it's going to stay messy. Fire Fairies/Anti-Faries (which still have no mention on this page) and Whisps are all Bubbles, the image for the Whisp is wrong (that's an Anti-Fairy, or rather a regular ALttP-era Bubble), Red Bubbles in The Wind Waker are identical to Fire Bubbles in Phantom Hourglass but neither are particularly similar in behavior to the Red Bubbles in The Ocarina of Time, Blue Bubbles and Ice Bubbles have no connection aside from the fact that they're Bubbles, and so on and so forth. Bubbles are probably the least consistent enemy in the series. It's a daunting task to fix this but I'll give it a go when I have time. Violet 18:10, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Bubbles and Whisps both appear in OoA/S and they have a different appearance. But you're right: Whisp, Wisp, and Anti-Fairy are the same. They are maybe a variation of bubbles. Jeangabin 15:55, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Article Order
Article is ordered awkwardly. (Legend of Zelda, then to Ocarina of Time, and back to Adventure of Link). Adventure of Link area needs to be expanded as all that is stated is that there are larger bubbles. However, these bubbles are drastically different since they can be defeated and they steal magic, experience points, and health if you get hit by them. (If I remember correctly) Perhaps a division between the the different games, or time periods of the games, or by variations. Some sort of expansion is definitely needed. Perhaps even additional images/screenshots from the later incarnations of this enemy. Mases 03:20, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


 * This page has been barely touched since the above message was posted. I really think this page needs to be split up. For one, I was going through and adding Oracle of Ages enemies to the Wiki and I noticed that 'Whisp' re-directs to 'Bubble'. However, in the game, they are completely different enemies. This page looks so clunky that I think Whisp should be completely split away. Something needs to be done about how it is organized. Either by Type or Game. Perhaps because there is so much information on this page, splitting the types of Bubbles into their own pages might be a better option. Mases 17:11, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I did what I could, and I think it's organized at least a little better now. I didn't have images or a lot of information for certain topics, but I'm sure others can add. Ancblue52 08:07, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

How is it now? I've organized it by type of Bubble rather than by game and then by type. Can the 'in need of attention' tag now be removed? If everyone is okay with this article other than a few minor things, that is. Ancblue52 22:37, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that this looks grand, sir. I'm not entirely sure what exactly a Whisp is or how truly different from a Bubble they are, so I won't state any opinion on whether that section should be separated from this page or not (can anyone provide some more info on WHAT THE HECK A WHISP IS), but the rest of the page is excellent. Tag removed. 04:57, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I will say w00t, if I may. However, about the Whisp, it is depicted. It's difficult to say whether it satisfies the definition of a Bubble (an animated skull), since it is apparently a skull in appearance, but it could just be some sort of electrical field imitating a skull. I don't personally see the need for a whole separate article on a Whisp, since it is a variation of a Bubble (in my opinion), but if someone else has strong Whisp feelings, it's not really up to me, then. Ancblue52 05:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I think if "Winged Octorok" has it's own page... So should "Whisp"... --With respect and humility, Alliram 15:09, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It already had its own page, but the consensus was to merge them. Splitting them up again would be pointless 01:58, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Though I'm sure there's probably some reason behind it, I didn't see it while reading, so I must ask: Why are the Red Bubbles and the Fire Bubbles separate? They both spawn from heat and fire, pretty much light Link on fire, and are red. It's probably just my OCD talking, but why don't we combine the sections into one, state that both names kinda apply, and then have one nice neat red/fire section? Unless there's a good reason that I'm missing, which does happen... And the file RedBubbleOoT.gif looks rather...photoshopped to me. The background fire/red stuff just looks like a GIMP pattern painted behind it. Am I crazy for seeing it like this or does anyone else agree. And if so, does anyone have a better screenshot to use? I just don't like it... 03:36, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, this page is pretty bad. If anyone takes up the challenge I want to add that too much of the article is strategy guidish. I'll vote to combine the red and fire sections and rename the section titles to fit. As far as splitting the page I think if it's done then it should just go to the Wisp page and keep the cross references. 02:51, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Green is larger
OK, I'm not sure why it says that the Green bubble in the well is larger than usual, but aren't you just smaller than usual? Just double-checking before I change it. Sk8torchic 01:56, 12 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, yeah, you are, but it shouldn't make it that much larger. 02:02, 12 October 2009 (UTC)