User talk:Chuck/Archive 2

Sword
How come the Scimitar of Twilight page capitalizes Sword?KrytenKoro (talk) 14:26, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * We normally capitalize some of the main items such as Bombs, the Boomerang, or in this case, the Sword. 22:23, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. Would it be okay to replace those instances with "Scimitar", to clarify what the thing is classified as?KrytenKoro (talk) 22:53, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Even though it does not look like one, I guess it's better to refer to it as one since that's how it is called in-game. 02:56, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Fierce Deity
...sweet jumping jehosaphats, they found a way to keep from me the one Zelda trivia I've wanted for nearly two decades, the name of that bloody sword.

Anyway, thanks for providing that source!KrytenKoro (talk) 00:40, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem. And yeah, it's kinda disappointing that they just straight ignored naming it, especially given the popularity of the FD. Oh well, maybe next time. 07:33, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Hyrule Warriors Ganon and Cucco
Ixbran posted elements and weapon names for Ganon and the Cucco's weapons, and cited two videos after I asked him for sources. I've now had a chance to confirm what the videos show, and while it shows gameplay that indicates certain elements, it does not state them explicitly, and the weapons are not given names. It appears the weapon names have already been removed, but the elements are still present. This methodology was previously used by the same editor to determine an element for Tingle's balloon that turned out to be false, which caused a previous edit war (by me defending his turns-out-incompletely-sourced edit from people who, while correct, weren't providing sources at all) when people came in to correct it. I don't want to edit war, so I stated that I'd wait for staff determination on this -- is it the staff's opinion that the gameplay in the cited videos is strong enough evidence to post the calculated elements, or should the elements/weapon field be left TBD until we get something more explicit?KrytenKoro (talk) 23:43, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It would be better not to speculate, so unless it is confirmed, that info should be left empty. 04:19, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Dark Link Costume (Hero of Hyrule Pack DLC)
I noticed you removed the Hyrule Warriors Dark Link costume from the Permanently Missable page stating "It looks you can still get it even without buying the Hero of Hyrule pack". I don't mean to doubt you since you've been editing here longer than I have and appear reputable enough, but out of curiosity could you point me to the source that confirmed its possible to get it without purchasing the Hero of Hyrule Pack?
 * An user in here pointed it out, then I did some research and it looks you can still get the costume by buying all the packs separately. 04:26, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Adding transparency and rendering
Hi, I was wondering what the "improper rendering" was for File:MM3D_American_Limited_Edition_Box.png.

KokoroSenshi (talk) 12:10, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, basically the background removal was poorly done as you can see from the edges. On the bottom right part of the image you can even see a part of the box was also removed. 18:57, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see... (after finding a coloured background for the image). I realised that wherever I opened the image the background given was grey or light-coloured so I couldn't tell. On the bottom-right part it looks like they left part of the shadow next to the box there.
 * I think I'll redo the background removal for that and the other box photos at Zelda_Wiki:Image_Requests. Would you say that any other photos of boxes or cases at Gallery:Box_Art should have background removed and transparency? Also what's your opinion for box art when the photo has the edges of the case included, and also on file-naming, since I noticed you changed File:MM_Bio_Deku_Baba_Lily_Pad.png to Snake Case (using underscores), from my  style? Also I notice that File:TWWHD-WiiU_Bundle_Front.png skilfully has the shadow retained - would you happen to know how? Really appreciated if you could answer my bombardment of questions! KokoroSenshi (talk) 02:54, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * If you see a box art with a background (like this one for example), feel free to remove it. As most of the box arts in here are the artwork only with no case edges, I guess it would be better to remove them too. We normally use the snake case when naming files, although we are still discussing which way is better for the Wiki, but for now let's stick with the snake one. About the shadow, you could ask Pixel, as she's the image expert here :p If you have any other question don't hesitate to ask :) 05:15, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, I notice File:KaeporaGaebora3D.gif is not in snake case like MM3D_Kaepora_Gaebora.gif, so should it be changed, and how? Also on a different matter, I was wondering if you knew why User:The Groosenator went around removing theory sections like Ancient Tribe (which seems like now it should be absorbed into the Majora's Mask page). KokoroSenshi 03:44, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * There are a lot of images like that around the wiki, so changing all of them would take a very long time. Although, if you would like to change its name, you can by using the move button on the tabs on top of the image page. About the theory, we are eventually moving all the theories to the ZU forums, as we are no longer accepting them. 04:54, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Your undo of my edit
Why did you undo my edit on the Majora's Mask 3D page? I wasn't lying, I stunned Odolwa by launching from a Deku Flower myself!Lheticus (talk) 12:39, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * It is indeed possible, however, that information is already mentioned on the Temples section of the page. 20:34, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought I was mentioning it. I added to the Odolwa bullet point.  I put it in the wrong place accidentally at first, but corrected that.  Where in this: "Odolwa can now only be stunned by using Deku Nuts while flying from a Deku Flower, or by an Arrow or sword attack from the back or side while he is revving up a dash attack."  Nowhere does this state anything about stunning from the launch from the flower itself, only using Deku Nuts WHILE in flight. Lheticus (talk) 23:52, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * True, you can add that extra information to the Odolwa part in the Temples section. 04:11, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
 * That's what I'd done in the first place... >_< Or so I thought!  Didn't I change it from the wrong bullet point to the right one?!  If somehow that didn't go through then I'm sorry! Lheticus (talk) 21:18, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Fish articles.
Let's be blunt.

NOT EVERY FISH'S ARTICLE MUST REDIRECT TO THE PAGE ON FISH.

Got it? I would say the Boss Fish in Majora's Mask 3D (Grand Swordfish, Colossal Catfish, Great Fairy Fish, Savage Shark, Lord Chapu-Chapu, and Ferocious Pirarucu) are worthy of their own articles. The other fish in the game? Let them be redirects. But the boss fish are more...unique, to say the least, hence why the whole "own articles" idea. -I'm just a plain ol' Goron...Darth Nightmaricus (talk) 02:06, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Boss fish are basically the same as other fish. They are harder to catch, yes, but outside of that there's nothing that makes them different from the rest. You don't get anything from catching them nor a backstory for them. All the important information you added to their respective pages can perfectly fit in the Fish page. The rest is just speculation (like their counterparts), and as a Wiki, we focus on facts, not speculations or theories. You even said it in the Lord Chapu-Chapu page: "Little is known about him". If there's not much to write about it, then there's no need to make a whole page for it. 04:03, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much
Thanks Chuck for fixing my problem on Skyloft Stage from Hyrule Warriors, and sorry about messing it up, I will look back at my work before saving. -- RKimble (talk) 06:34, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, don't worry, we all make mistakes :p Just make sure to use the "show preview" button before saving a page, this way you can check how the page will look so you can fix any error. Oh, and thanks for helping us with the HW pages, we really appreciate it :) 15:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem, I'm a huge Zelda console fan, I own all the console versions of those titles on the NES, SNES, N64, GameCube, Wii and Wii U so I came to help this wiki out since I'm pretty much free most all the time. -- RKimble (talk) 21:44, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

What consensus?
The consensus on Skull Kid was that we were going to split it, but for now we'd work on it in the sandbox for my page. Once it was complete, we were going to move it into the namespace. That's the impression I got, at least. -I'm just a plain ol' Goron...Darth Nightmaricus (talk) 17:48, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * It was said that you should work on your sandbox first instead of editing the main page. So until everyone agrees with something, the page should stay as it is. 18:34, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Timeline
The reason why Ancient Stone Tablets is not in HH?

Because it's literally impossible to legally play it anymore.

Nintendo figured that there'd be no point in including a game no one can legally play into their timeline. If it was playable legally, it'd be in the Hyrule Historia.

It has nothing to do with the actual timeline. -I'm just a plain ol' Goron...Darth Nightmaricus (talk) 23:02, 17 May 2015 (UTC)


 * LCT, the Zelda G&W, the Tingle series, etc. are also ambiguously canon and are not in the timeline either, and they can be legally played. Only the main canon games are meant to be in the timelime, simple as that. 01:25, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I'd like to apologize.
Sorry if I'm come off as a jerk, I don't mean to...I just kinda feel like we're bested by some other Zelda wikis (unfortunately), like Zeldapedia (even though it doesn't cite its sources, in some instances it's more informative) and Zelda Dungeon Wiki. I'm sorry if it seems like I'm picking a fight, I'm not trying to. Also, what do you think of the sandbox pages? In the future, once those are improved, could they be mainspaced? What do I need to improve on them? -I'm just a plain ol' Goron...Darth Nightmaricus (talk) 00:39, 18 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I completely disagree with that. Before I even joined this Wiki, I looked at all the others and decided to join this one in particular, and for a reason. It is way more organized, it cites and sources every statement, file, etc. as possible, it is by far the most updated Zelda Wiki out there (and you can see that with the lack of MM3D information in other Wikis), and I could go on forever... And at the end, I guess you're in here and not in another Wiki for a reason.
 * About the sandboxes, like stated before, you need feedback from other users before attempting to mainspace anything. For that, you can propose any major change to a page in its talk page or in the forums. 01:25, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * What I meant was that I noticed that stuff like the Deku Palace article and the Odolwa article on Zeldapedia covered the Japanese differences and Manga appearances, respectively, long before we updated. I didn't mean stuff like MM3D details, etc. --I'm just a plain ol' Goron...Darth Nightmaricus (talk) 01:28, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, the Great Fairy of Courage image and the Great Fairy of Wisdom image need their names swapped. --I'm just a plain ol' Goron...Darth Nightmaricus (talk) 01:29, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

"Man from Curiosity Shop" or the "man from the Curiosity Shop"
In any other context, we would never talk about "Curiosity Shop" but rather, "the Curiosity Shop." It seems pretty clear to me that common sense would say the reason he's called "Man from Curiosity Shop" in the Bomber's Notebook is that it's not intended to contain complete sentences. I don't think he has a name that's mentioned in game, so the Bomber's Notebook just says who he is, not his name. When complete sentences are used, he's referred to as "the man at the Curiosity Shop" or something like such, as Footnote 2 in the user page reveals. I agree that the Bomber's Notebook, a source from the game itself, may hold more weight than the Official Nintendo Player's Guide, but only when it agrees with common sense. (Otherwise, we couldn't even call him "the Man from Curiosity shop" but instead just "Man from Curiosity Shop" [e.g., the starting sentence would have to be, "Man from Curiosity Shop is a character in .") It seems more like, for lack of a better term, "legalistic uncommon sense" to use the grammatically incorrect phrase "Man from Curiosity Shop" in complete sentences. I'm okay with using it in the context of referencing him via footnotes or something (notice that I didn't edit those ones), but not in complete sentences. I'm not intending to sound angry or anything; I'm just stating how I see it. Is there anything inaccurate with what I'm saying? Thanks! —The Sackinator (talk) 03:51, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Also, maybe we could make "Man" be uncapitalized, since it's not a proper name or anything; what do you think? —The Sackinator (talk) 03:53, 19 May 2015 (UTC)


 * What you say makes sense, but "Man from Curiosity Shop" is basically treated as his name for the lack of an actual real name. It is capitalized for the same reason, as we tend to cap names, items, etc. even if they are not always capitalized in-game, such as Sword, Bomb, and so on, mostly because of consistency. 02:53, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I can see it from that point of view (though I don't necessarily agree with it), but at the same time, if we act as if "Man from Curiosity Shop" is his name, wouldn't that mean that he couldn't be referred to as "the Man from Curiosity Shop" but rather, just "Man from Curiosity Shop" (e.g., like I said in the first post, "Man from Curiosity Shop is a character in )"? If Nintendo were asked what we at Zelda Wiki should refer to him as, they definitely wouldn't say "Man from Curiosity Shop" or "the Man from Curiosity Shop" but maybe "the man from the Curiosity Shop" or "the Man from the Curiosity Shop." I'm less against using caps than I am not using "the" as in "the Curiosity Shop." Since we have to call him something, couldn't we maybe use the Official Nintendo Player's Guide, "the man at the Curiosity Shop," since common sense says that "Man from Curiosity Shop" is grammatically unsatisfiable? If Zelda Wiki is firm with keeping it the way it is, though, I'll stop arguing about words. —The Sackinator (talk) 23:27, 20 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Oh, and by the way: I read this before making changes to that article, but looking at it again, does this Discussion section actually give alternative in-game names for him? Thanks! —The Sackinator (talk) 23:36, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * We always give priority to the in-game names, as we just use the ones that appear on guides if there are none in the game itself. I personally don't mind calling him any of those ways (especially since they are all used in-game), but I guess the best way to solve this is by proposing it in the article's talk page, this way you can also get input from other users as well. 03:30, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
 * All right! I posted it on the discussion page. Thanks for your time! —The Sackinator (talk) 23:08, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello again. I put the request on the article's talk page quite some time ago but still have not recieved a response. Do you think it'd be okay if I just made the change anyway, since the previous discussion on the topic ended in an apparent agreement on my position and since if anyone still objects, my change could be reverted and the talk could revive on the article's discussion page? What's your opinion? —The Sackinator (talk) 00:14, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You can also try in the |ZW suggestions thread on the ZU forums, hopefully you'll get more feedback in there. 00:45, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I could try that, but I prefer to just make the change instead of creating an account for the ZU forums if that's okay. If anyone disagrees with my edit to the article, it could be reverted. Would that be okay? —The Sackinator (talk) 04:00, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

"Found a glitch in Hyrule Warriors"
Hello Chuck, I just wanted to let you know I've been playing Hyrule Warriors a lot since I got it and in the Temple of Souls level if you choose either Epona or Great Fairy weapons after the cutscene when Link almost gets overpowered by the Dark Links when the cutscene ends you instead have the Master Sword as your weapon instead of Epona or Great Fairy and there both nowhere to be found. So wondering if you think this is good to put on list of Hyrule Warriors Glitches. -- RKimble (talk) 05:04, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey there. If you have tested it, there's no need to ask permission to add it. Although, if that happens everytime you play it, I guess the game was programmed like that, so I don't think that will count as a glitch. 04:55, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

No Glitches in articles
Hey I edited the article on the rito flight minig ame and talked about the glitch to get a higher score and you removed it saying glitches shouldn't be mentioned in the actual article. Why is that? I believe if it's part of the game it should be mentioned Nullatrum (t)(c) 03:05, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Glitches must go in their respective glitch pages. 03:23, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Prima logo
Hi, just wanted to ask what was wrong with the me removing the Prima Logo from the list of image requested for transparency after I added transparency to the logo. The current white part is part of the logo, as can be seen if you access the original file. (Unless my transparency isn't good enough, which may be; in which case never mind me.) -- Zero-ELEC (talk) 06:20, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey there. Thanks for removing the background for the logo, however, the round parts of it still need some work, as they look a little off as of now. 02:35, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Why did you remove my Edit from Link to the Past regarding the Chris Houlihan room
I have no idea why you would remove information that explains why the bug happens in the first place. There are 5 well known ways to get into the room, but I was explaining how the glitch works on a technical level. Please let me know your reasoning.
 * I added the info back into the page. And please don't forget to sign your posts with ~ . 15:55, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Oi!
As an Admin i thought you would know better than to replace signatures with nosig nonsense like you did with me here:

ORIGINAL TEXT I PUT

ok, since the Dark world and the Twilight Realm are NOT the same place, i think the Twilight Realm should be removed from this page, and Given it's own Page, and this page should have one of the following: Not to be confused with Twilight Realm or: This is the article about the realm appearing in most Zelda games, but not Twilight Princess. for the one that Does appear in twilight princess, see Twilight Realm.

Except with better grammar and MUCH better punctuation. TrueZelda (Talk) 22:34, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

MY TEXT AFTER YOU CHANGED IT

ok, since the Dark world and the Twilight Realm are NOT the same place, i think the Twilight Realm should be removed from this page, and Given it's own Page, and this page should have one of the following: Not to be confused with Twilight Realm or: This is the article about the realm appearing in most Zelda games, but not Twilight Princess. for the one that Does appear in twilight princess, see Twilight Realm.

Except with better grammar and MUCH better punctuation.

Seriously, i know this vandalization was very small and rather difficult to notice, but it's a vandalization, none-the-less. truth is i find it quite difficult calling it a vandalization. but still, please don't do that from now on. TrueZelda (Talk) 22:34, 26 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry man, but I don't see any signature here so you're essentially bashing Chuck for adding a sig to your signatureless post. PPLToast (talk) 23:36, 26 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Perhaps to add some eloquence to this, Chuck was following protocol and adding a signature to your sig-less contribution. I'm afraid the one at fault is not him, but you. Please in the future remember to sign your posts with four tildes, and also don't harass the administrative team for doing their job. Thank you. 02:06, 27 November 2015 (UTC)


 * but i did add a signature! i Did! i ALWAYS sign my posts! Seriously! if you didn't see a sig then you just missed it, because it WAS there! TrueZelda (Talk) 19:44, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but as the page history shows, there was no signature added when the post was made. As a general rule of thumb, it is generally a good idea to always Preview your edits before saving them, including talk page responses. That way you can check to see if anything was missed.


 * Also, we're not punishing you or anything. I'm afraid you're taking this a little too personally for what was otherwise just a simple, common mistake. Please try to relax. 20:17, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I Know you're not punishing me, but still, i did check and there was a signature. sorry about all the stuff that was meant to represent a raised voice... i guess i just overreacted. but i really did add a signature. honest! TrueZelda (Talk) 20:24, 28 November 2015 (UTC)