User talk:Ando1400@legacy41958204

(Archive T1)

O RLY
This is in response to the undoing of my change in http://zeldawiki.org/index.php?title=Relationship_of_Link_and_Zelda&oldid=80112

So I don't really mind if YOU wouldn't kiss the person who woke you up but for the sake of the argument This Zelda doesn't know this Link..so unless shes been watching him in her sleep and fallen in love with him then I don't see a love connection between two people who just met

In the least make it sound better like say - This link reminds her of her link or something like that...or that she fell in love with him at first sight.

but then that would be speculation....and I'll go back to what I said before that two people who don't know each other until one wakes the other, then meeting for the firs time, and kisses doesn't mean their in love...thats speculating.

I guess what is really bugging me is, just dont change it then say "I sure as heck wouldn't". It feels like I'm being punished for sounding stupid. --Remo 18:13, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I see what you're saying, and I sincerely apologize if what I said made you feel stupid; it wasn't my intention. However, I really see no reason to remove a sentence that's mostly speculation when really the entire article is built on just that: fan speculation. Nothing in the games ever explicitly states that Link and Zelda have ever really be romantically attracted to each other; heck, there's FAR more evidence for a Link and Midna relationship than Link and Zelda.
 * Also, is there any evidence that Zelda did NOT know Link before the events of Zelda II? I'm asking this seriously, since I thought that the LoZ Link and the Zelda II Link were one and the same; if this were the case, then Zelda would know Link from the events of LoZ. --Ando (T) 19:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought that the AoL manual said that the sleeping Zelda was put to sleep long ago. Assuming the Links to be the same then, logically, the Zeldas are not the same.--Matt 19:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

According to the The Adventure of Link article, you're right, Matt. Which begs the question: who the heck is the LoZ Zelda? --Ando (T) 19:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I guess the incident that put that Zelda in a deep sleep could have happened anytime prior to LoZ. Most likely sometime after ALttP. Oh, and your talk page is getting a little long. Have you considered archiving some of it.--Matt 20:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Question
How do you find so many articles to edit? Can you give me some tips? I see your name like, plastered on the recent pages and i keep asking myself, where does he find all these edits ?! So canyou share some err....."secrets" with me? (P.S. It might be time for an archive ;)) --Seablue254 19:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, one way is through the normal patrolling-of-the-recent-changes-page. I see someone's edit on some random page, and while checking it to make sure I don't need to undo it or something, I may notice that something else about the page needs an edit or two. So I do that. And sometimes I just get bored and hit "Random Page" until I find something lacking in quality that I can lend my skillz to. Or maybe sifting through the articles needing attention category. Any of these ways, really. --Ando (T) 19:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * (P.S. Yeah, it does seem to be getting there, doesn't it?)

Hmm....thanks. I want to get to editing alot of pages, yet i seem to never find anything! Maybe this'll help! --Seablue254 20:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC) P.S. Just looked at the Starly you traded me. Nice nickname. I like "NOTBIDOOF". Anyway, i can tradeyou other stuff, like a Jirachi, you know, stuff like that. Non-Hacked.

Hey. Just wanted you to know, if you ever liked UB2R-B0T, i'm trying to get him on #zeldawiki. anyway, i'll trade you that Jirachi. Non-Hacked. If you're interested, just come in, yadda yadda yadda.....--Seablue254 00:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I do not know what an UB2R-B0T is. And also I has a Jirachi (I got the Colosseum Bonus Disc by a fluke; it's AWESOME). --Ando (T) 00:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * In vein of the original question; I think it might be a common affliction of users. I mean the feeling of 'wanting to do something and not know what to do'. I recommend adding some specific categories to the 'To Do' list on the Castle Town page. For example, the sidequest page and category could be much more than it is. Changing it every month or so could keep it fresher and interesting.Axiomist 01:16, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * UB2R-B0T=Awesome bot. Just showed you. --Seablue254 01:19, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Guess what. UB2R is in #zeldawiki. Wanna come in and try him out? --Seablue254 20:11, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


 * This may sound dumb....but...is Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask worth playing? Come into the chatroom so we can have a discussion :) --Seablue254 21:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Article Voting Archive (reply)
Umm... I don't rememer voting for the Triforce article in the month of April. I am going to though (May 8th)


 * Ah, but you did. --Ando (T) 23:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * This is a perfect example of the need for the reminder templates I just made. See my talk page to see how I think it should be used. Either the user or some other responsible person can put them on the user's talk page. Spread the word!--Matt 03:55, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Archive Template
Would you like to use the archive template? It is mostly Adam's doing. I only put it in a useable form. It would most likely catch people's attention better than simple text. Of course, you don't have to use it. It is just that if you use it, it is far more likely to catch on. Same goes for the article and picture reminder templates. (which seem to have been throughly ignored thus-far) --Matt 04:35, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Mmm, hey, why not? It IS more noticeable, after all. :P --Ando 16:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Teaching
Guess what. Vista is so bad that it only has restore points up to March because it deleted the rest. DARN IT. So, it looks like I (luckily) have the restore dvd to reinstall the software. So I'm not just restoring it, I'm reinstalling it. W00t! --Seablue254 20:11, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yet another "step backward" for Microsoft. Typical.--Matt 20:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Tell me about it. If only Mac's weren't so expensive! --Seablue254 20:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Only up till March? Vista only has restore points up to two months back? What on earth...? Vista makes me sad. :( Good thing you can at least reinstall, though. --Ando 03:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I know. It's pretty official that, well....Vista sucks. The only good thing about it is how nice the theme and stuff is. Besides, my friend had upgraded his XP to Vista, downloaded malware accidentaly (the amount of Trojans and Tracking cookies he dosen't want me to tell) and now he had to wipe it clean, so goodbye Vista, and hello XP. And i'll say it again, Vista SUCKS! --Seablue254 19:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey. just noticed I made a big mistake on some of the Zelda dungeon items. Sorry! --Seablue254 00:11, 18 May 2008 (UTC) Come into the Chatroom! We are rlyrly bored in there! Please come talk to us!

Well, i think i'm going to try out ubuntu soon. Comfused? Come in and i'll tell you. --Seablue254 15:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Question. Are we still in for teaching? Oh. Yes. I need you to go into #zeldawiki and unban my address. I was dumb enough to come in as a Anon myself, ban it, and forget to unban me.? Uh oh. Bad time. Maybe in half an hour?--Seablue254 21:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Why of course. --Ando 21:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok. Wow. It's Friday! anyway, since it's teaching day, i guess that i should start preparing! Oh, wait, i gotta go clean my pets cage. be in the chatroom in say, 20 minutes :) --Seablue254 17:22, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

...It's Friday? I... guess it is. Okay. Sure, yeah, whatever. I'll try to be there; if I'm not there it's because I'm finishing up lunch, so I'll be there once I'm done with that. ;) --Ando 17:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

..So, ready for another session? Uh oh. Bad time. Maybe in half an hour?--Seablue254 21:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

May we begin? --Seablue254 19:29, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Question. Do you know.....WHERE I CAN FIND A DANG SSBM ROM? IM DYING OVER HERE! --Seablue254 20:39, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


 * GameCube ISO's (the GameCube equivalent of a ROM) are nigh impossible to find; believe me, I've looked for The Wind Waker... So honestly, I have no idea where to find a Melee ISO. Sorry, dude. D: --Ando 20:42, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok. But let me finish off with, GAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Seablue254 20:43, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I need to see you in irc.esper.net in #temp, i have questions tell me on my talkpage for help. P.S. i can help you over aim.--Seablue254 14:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * More like I don't know what the heck you're talking about? You need to see me where now? And I wasn't aware that I needed help. ??? --Ando 04:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I'm just saying that you've still got work to do before you can call your wiki the ultimate source. XXXXX 19:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Then why not help out instead of just stating "whoa, this isn't that great WORK ON IT MORE"? What we need is help, not votes of negativity. :P --Ando 19:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Response to "what the crap?"
Ahahaha. you got it. Feel free to revert it though. Its an inside joke. Get it? Anyway, reverting is fine. But next time, don't get so overworked. I even said it was a joke, man. :P --Seablue254 19:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!
You can delete this when you are done reading it but I just wanted to thankyou that link really helped! --ZeldaGirl101 17:44, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Nothing Awesome
I can't make any promises. I tend to think of awesome things when I least suspect it. :P If I don't act, I'll lose the thought. But there are two days that I will be gone as well (the 9th and 10th) I'll likely be back later on on the tenth. So thats a short time away. Have a good time at camp! Just hope it doesn't rain on you like is did to me on my camping trip. ^_^ --Mjr162006 05:16, 8 June 2008 (UTC) )


 * Haha. Actually, I'm hoping for rain. One year it rained all week and stayed a nice 65-70 degrees F. If it doesn't rain this week it'll be a solid 95 degrees all week. D: But whatever! So thanks, have fun, and I'll be leaving in... 3 hours? --Ando 13:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Welcome back. Nothing Awesome happened. (Unless you count me making my computer a dual-boot awesome) --Seablue254 17:44, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure if any of it counts as awesome, but you can check my contributions to see what I've done.Among the things, I made our cite template so that it won't link to the article that it is in and so that it won't link for non-character quotes. I made a template that can change the content for every day of the week. A few other things too.--Mjr162006 17:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks, do you know the link for the usertags (if it's okay for me to ask)? Pakkun 22:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)Rpp

(Not Ando, answering anyway)UserTags = Userboxes = Userboxes. There you are. --Seablue254 22:45, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry. Thank you too. Pakkun 22:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)Rpp


 * Don't be sorry! You're new, it's understandable. However, next time, don't ask a user who won't be back until Saturday! --Seablue254 22:49, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Manga
Why are the sites illegal? Does the U.S. hate to allow us to read Video Game Comics? --Seablue254 00:09, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Nah, they're illegal because of international copyright laws. Basically, fan-translators are taking someone's work that they should be getting paid for, scanning it in, translating it, then uploading it to the internet without the original artist's permission for any and all to download. For every person that just downloads the manga instead of legitimately purchasing it, the artist (and the publisher, and the store) loses that much money. Uploading and downloading that stuff is essentially stealing. This doesn't apply to just gaming manga, either. Any work created by anyone (movies, TV shows, music, etc.) from any country uploaded to the internet for free download without their permission is 100% illegal. Downloading it is also illegal but not as widely enforced. I have heard of several fansub teams getting fined upwards of ~$10,000-20,000 and jailed for something like 5 years for fansubbing anime, if that gives you any indication of how illegal it is. --Ando 00:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I sees. Now if those writer would just MAKE A US COPY (THATS RIGHT, IM TALKING TO YOU WRITERS!!), everyone would be happy! Also, can I ask you a question in the chatroom quick? --Seablue254 00:19, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, the Ocarina of Time manga is coming over to America (at least I believe it's the OoT manga; they announced two volumes, so it just makes sense) thanks to my favoritist publisher ever, Viz. :D And yeah, I'll hop in there now. --Ando 00:20, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * YAY! --Seablue254 00:21, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Illegal Content?
What illegal content? UberPhoeb 20:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Content such as links to online manga translations, anime fansubs, ROM's, etc. For more information, view this discussion as well as the discussion held just above this one (under the heading "Manga"). --Ando 20:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

It's OK
I was way outta line. I seemed to have went right out of all the rules and start throwing accusations. Darn, these areguements are to blame. They're whats bringing everyone into this battle. Anyways, i sure hope i didn't offened you, and i don't think i'll be leaving his place anytime soon! We all good? --Seablue254 20:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't worry guys. We all tend to get caught up in the heat of the moment. There is nothing like a good battle to get those brains of our moving. This is a wiki about Zelda Games right? And Zelda Games have a lot of what in them? Battling!!! I think this whole thing has improved my typing speed!--Mjr162006 21:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh. Matt, you never fail to cheer me up. --Seablue254 21:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Glad to be of service.--Mjr162006 21:23, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Just hit me. Maybe i should be the "make controversial edits" guy over here. I think i've shown I can care less, and as ling as everyones happy, ill do it ^_^ --Seablue254 13:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Tabs
OK, I'm in shock. Did I really just read that you don't use tabs in Firefox? I can honestly say that, without tabbed browsing, I would never patrol edits. It takes like, at least twice as long, if not more. I pity you for the hours of time you'll never see again, spent frantically clicking the back button. Please reconsider this course of internet-based self-harm :( --Adamcox82 21:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Haha, o gawd. I just lol'd. Anyways, I would certainly try tabs again, Ando. As I write, I have at least 3 tabs open. --Seablue254 21:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It's not like I'd move any faster with tabs. I have no middle mouse button so the only way to open something in a tab is right-click->"open in new tab", which takes just as long as right-click->"open in new window". Sorry if I don't see the difference between tabs and windows; I'm used to windows so I stick with them. --Ando 23:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, using firefox, just go to tools --> options --> tabs--> and check the box that says "Keep the tab bar open always" (or something to that effect), and install the addon "Tab Mix Plus" and there will be an extra bar with a button to open a new tab. --Seablue254 23:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * There is more. Just go to the same place tool→options→tabs and change new pages should be opened in a new tab instead of new window.--Mjr162006 23:31, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It's already set to that. Doesn't matter. None of the recent changes links open in new windows, anyway, remember? :P --Ando 23:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ando, don't take this the wrong way, but its called getting off your butt and doing a little work, like i have to whenever i use ubuntu. --Seablue254 00:04, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

No, that setting makes links that would open a new window instead open a new tab. With Tab Mix Plus, you can make it force a new tab to open for an external link. You can also make it do it for all links, but I highly recommend that you didn't do that. Wait..... holy crap!! Tab Mix Plus let's you easily undo closed tabs! Double click on a tab is set to nothing by default. You can change it to reopen the last closed tab! Yes you can put that setting on any of the clicking methods but double click on tab was unused and everyone here can do it. It is set by default for the middle mouse button for clicking on the tab bar. This is great! The link for Tab Mix Plus is on the Firefox Hints page under add-ons.--Mjr162006 00:11, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, this undo closed tabs thing is awesome. If you close a tab by mistake, just double click another one. Sweet! :D --Mjr162006 00:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Correct Matt. Let me translate one sentenc...found it. I believe "this is great!" can be decoded to "Seablue254, you're awesome!" In that case, thank you <3! --Seablue254 00:18, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, if you didn't mention Tab Mix Plus, I never would have noticed the option.--Mjr162006 00:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh. Yay me! --Seablue254 00:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I bet you weren't expecting that! A real answer for your joke. Yeah...--Mjr162006 00:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Is that an insult or a compliment? --Seablue254 00:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

But recent changes links aren't external links. They're still under the ZeldaWiki.org domain. Sorry if I'm just not understanding what on earth you people are talking about. :/ --Ando 02:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

NOT TO MENTION that tabs create another bar at the top of the screen, effectively lowering the overall height of the displayed web page. However minor, it still bugs me. That's why I love that Firefox has built-in Google search. Means I don't need the Google toolbar. :D --Ando 02:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Does F11 still make it go full screen on Vista? Full screen hides everything but the navigation bar and tab bar. That'll give more space than you lost. I know those aren't external links. That's why I mentioned that you can force it to open a new tab for all links. I removed the search box (right click and go to customize). I never use it, so it just waste space. I replaced it with the save session and exit button and the cut, copy, and, past buttons. It gave more room for the add-on added buttons too.--Mjr162006 02:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I... I like the search function. :(
 * F11 means that I have to press it again whenever I want to do anything else (pull up the start menu, switch windows, check the freaking time)... sounds like more work than it's worth. And forcing open a new tab for all links just sounds... hectic. Plus, going back to the recent changes page manually (by hitting "recent changes", not by hitting back over and over, ADAM) allows me to see all of the recent changes as they happen, so I can catch vandals in the act. --Ando 02:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess we just cant persuade you! --Seablue254 13:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Go back to the recent changes manually? Doesn't everyone do that? It's on the side bar all the time. It is not like it is hard to get to it. Adam just uses the back button? What? Why?--Mjr162006 13:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Over There

 * Earlier today, at around 3PM our time (8PM UTC), someone at Zeldapedia copied our Midna derivative image to over there. Same exact filename. He suggested using it over there. I told them about our debate and that the image was over there was in copyright violation. They deleted it right away. They still had an interest in using it so I told them how to contact the author for permission. Do you think our warning message telling people to contact the author to use it on their site wasn't clear enough? I tried to improve it a little bit. Any thoughts?--Mjr162006 03:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, you've gotta remember, it's a decent-sized image, and some people may not scroll down below the image to see if there are any notes attached to it. So I wouldn't say that it "wasn't clear enough" (as I think that anyone who reads it could understand "if you want to use it, contact the artist for permission"), but rather "wasn't noticeable enough", which I'm not sure there's anything we can do about outside of editing the actual image itself with some kind of watermark or disclaimer. :/ We can't really say that it was their fault, though: perhaps they assumed that it wasn't a derivative work and therefore could be used? Again, that would be a fault of the notice not being noticeable enough. Go figure. --Ando 03:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It isn't that big. You barely have to scroll down at all to see what is written on my resolution. I added the for permission part long after it was copied, remember. I said it wrong above. I actually only said that the image came from our site and we had permission. I never said it was a copyvio. They decided that themselves. It looks like they are going to go get the permission. They just asked me for more specific instructions on how to get it on my talk page there.--Mjr162006 04:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Use a Quote
I said if I wanted to use a quote that someone here said, I would ask them first. I want to add a quote you said to my user page. I'll add punctuation. "[Adds featured voting templates to category] OH CRAP, I DIDN'T ADD NOINCLUDE TAGS!"

- Ando

It is pretty funny.--Mjr162006 05:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Haha, sure, whatever. No need to ask me. Use whatever of mine you feel like. ;) --Ando 13:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)