Talk:Sacred Realm


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Theory regarding Hyrule/Sacred Realm juxtaposition in LoZ/AoL.
Being new to the site, I haven't had the leisure of see all past theories and discussions.

However, I would like to field a hypothesis regarding the possible chronology placing LoZ and AoL after ALttP. This seems somewhat likely to me, as LoZ references Ganon invading Hyrule to gain the Triforce, NOT invading the Sacred Realm. In theory, does it not seem plausible that when Link defeated Ganondorf in ALttP and repaired the Sacred Realm, the peace and prosperity that followed for Hyrule were because Link merged or exchanged the two realms? This would then place LoZ in context to have the resting place of the Triforce in Hyrule, as well as falling in line with the interview placing ALttP as a prequel.

This would also open the possibility that Ganon was NOT the same villain as Ganondorf, but a follow thereof. This would also fall in with the statement at the end of ALttP that Ganondorf had been destroyed utterly.

I'm placing this under the Sacred Realm discussion since it seems that the chronology could place the first two games as being a conflict centered on, and happening in, a Hyrulian Sacred Realm. Feel free to pick this apart, but be gentle. It's my first time here.

Ithrion the Grey 19:38, 4 October 2011 (EDT)Ithrion the Grey

If you look at the timeline page, you can see that that possibility is already there. LoZ and AoL are in and are placed before and after ALttP, showing that it is possible for them to exist in both. Vyselink 22:03, 6 October 2011 (EDT)

The Sacred Realm prior to Ocarina of Time
While Hyrule Historia does not mention the Sacred Realm when covering the events prior to Ocarina of Time, the section covering the creation of the Temple of Time does not act as if the Sacred Realm was created then. So we can't assume that anything about it being the Triforce's resting place has been retconned. We do not know where the Triforce was kept at any event prior to the backstory of Skyward Sword, but we can assume it was the Sacred Realm. I can only assume the reason it was not still there is because it was in Hylia's care. Why it was not returned there and instead sent to the sky is unknown, but presumably Demise could potentially access the Sacred Realm during this time, and Hylia did not want this. The Sacred Realm was not cut off from Hyrule until later. 01:05, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying though that it is definitely a retcon. What I'm suggesting is that we take it as ambiguously canon. The fact that Hyrule Historia doesn't mention the Sacred Realm on page 70, isn't a good reason? The Triforce could have been placed in the Sacred Realm, or simply given to Hylia and so it could be in Hylia's Temple for example. The fact that there is the Triforce's symbol there makes it possible. Basically, the main point of the edit was to make the article more neutral. Zeldafan1982 01:36, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * While Hyrule Historia is an important source, we don't want to negate the evidence directly presented to us in the games. It's not our job to rewrite what the games say to suit Hyrule Historia's presentation, especially when what they say is fairly ambiguous in the first place. Is there anything in that opening paragraph that actively contradicts what Hyrule Historia says? HH doesn't cover everything in detail, most things are mentioned in passing. Further detail is what this wiki is for, yes?
 * Basically, while HH is largely canon, it's not infallible, they even outright say so in the book. There are going to be some contradictions here and there. As things go, this is a fairly minor one. Unless you think I am missing something in particular? 02:19, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The thing is that the last game mentioning that the Triforce was placed in the Sacred Realm after the creation is OoT. If it was a very recent official source that said that then I wouldn't be arguing. Skyward Sword as I said also doesn't mention the Sacred Realm. So, I don't see why the possibility of a retcon would be unreasonable here (it wouldn't be the first time in the series). Anyway, my opinion is that at this point we can't be certain about the Triforce's location after its creation. Others can leave their opinion too. Zeldafan1982 04:26, 25 March 2013 (UTC)