User talk:Christopher-gpuser

About the edit war
I guess this is my apology for the edit war fiasco. Once the page is unlocked, I'll work to make it more balanced and not just catered to my point of view. Maybe this template can work: Undisputed facts in the main article, with two theory sections explaining each point of view. That's what eventually happened with the Imprisoning War page when a similar scenario happened. So sorry for screwing everything up and being so hard-headed.Ganondorfdude11 06:28, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That is fine man, I accept the apology and also apologize for any confusion or mistrust that has been caused. I agree with your idea to the detail, and that was what I was trying to suggest last night. I am very glad you have come back to the table and am very glad we have reached agreement. Perhaps we can work together on it to make it to what you described. I'd be very happy to help if I can. As far as citing sources, I am unsure about the coding required for it, since I was never very good with programming. Perhaps you can help me there. And I in turn can help you as well to craft the sections and bring the article up to speed as you said. For the record, I also agree this encyclopedia is far more credible than the other one, but in a respectful way. I can see that they may have different standards than we do, but they too love the series just as much as we do. I may not agree with all that they do, as I do believe we have a good policy and a good operation here, but as I said, I just live and let live. But I do agree with you that we have a more credible operation here and that we have good policies and a wonderful alliance with other sites, something that can't be said for the other wiki it seems. Link87 16:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Sacred Realm pictures
Hey! So I've been doing some searching for Sacred Realm pictures we could add to the article, and here are some I've found: Anyway, that's all I have for now, but I'll make sure to keep looking. Dany36 19:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This post has some good ones.
 * From the Lanayru story in Twilight Princess.
 * Same with this one.
 * And this one. I'm not too convinced about the last three, since I know there are better images where Lanayru's story shows more of the Sacred Realm...I just gotta find them.
 * Maybe this image could be of some use. Possibly add it to the section talking about the spoiling of the Sacred Realm?


 * Hey Dany! Thanks a bunch, I will take a peek and try to procure some images from these sources for the article. I have also added some new sections to the article concerning the Temple of Light as well as the Dark World as well. Take a peek at those if you get a chance and let me know if you think any changes would be good for them. Meanwhile, I will try to deal with the pictures now that I have some sources to work with. Thanks so much! Link87 19:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Talk page management
Hi there. I noticed you just removed a lot of stuff from your talk page, which is fine and often necessary. However, it's generally considered better practice to archive old discussions rather than deleting them; that way, your talk page stays clean and tidy, but you don't end up deleting comments written by other users. There's a template for the task here, just let me know if you have any problems using it :) 18:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah I see, well thank you for the link Adam. I will definitely do that in future, and for the reasons you stated, which when thinking about it is logical and worthwhile. And thanks for giving me some directions, I'm terrible with coding or webpage work (or at least so far anyway, hoping to improve in time). I can do text and writing just fine, but I wish I was half as talented at computer programming or webpage work. Anyway, yes thank you for mentioning that, and I will definitely adhere to that henceforth.


 * On a side note, when you get a chance, check the Sacred Realm page and let me and Dany know what you think of it now. It should be nearing completion, as I helped take care of most of the text and Dany has helped me seek out pictures and has done all the citing of sources all by herself, which I am proud of her for. ;) Link87 18:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * OK, I went ahead and archived the deleted content for you, hope you don't mind. I'll definitely have a look through the article when I get a chance, just have to psych myself up first though since it's now a pretty hefty read... 18:57, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I appreciate the compliments, but I'm actually a girl, haha. XD I guess my username gives the wrong impression at first, huh... Dany36 19:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't mind at all, in fact I thank you for it. That way we have records of these things, which is always the best policy when thinking about it. And thank you for taking the time to read through the article, as I know it may be a bit tedious to read in its entirety, but hopefully it will be interesting enough to hold interest now! ;) Link87 18:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh God Dany, I'm so sorry, really, lol. Well now I know at least, but I do apologize for the mix-up. I just thought from your username that perhaps you were a guy. But I meant every word I said too btw. ;) Link87 19:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Haha, no problem at all! It's not the first time it happens, so it's not your fault at all. XD Dany36 00:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well thank you, and I am very glad to work alongside such an insightful woman. :) Link87 00:51, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Great Flood pictures
Hey, Link87! I was thinking that maybe you could put some of the pictures that are shown in the The Wind Waker introduction in the Great Flood article. You don't have to use all of them, but putting them in their respective section would make the article even neater. Here are some of the pictures:

TWW introduction pics

Let me know if they're of any help. I'll continue adding the references to the Great Flood page meanwhile. :D Dany36 19:05, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The source you gave me was a great help Dany, and the pictures are now complete for the Great Flood article. Take a peek at it when you get a chance and let me know what you think. Link87 13:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow! I just checked out the article, and you once again did a great job with the placement of the pictures. I'm glad the link I gave you was of help, and we now have yet another page to be proud of... Keep up the fantastic writing skills! Hopefully we'll see this as a Featured Article in the near future. :) Dany36 21:47, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well thank you very much Dany, I really appreciate it. And thank you very much for the outstanding work on the references. I will be continuing work on Labrynna too, and when I'm done with it, I will contact you about the references. It's a great team effort, and I'm glad I can be a part of making the wiki more appealing. ;) Link87 23:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem! It's always a pleasure to work alongside others to make the Zelda Wiki even better. ;) I was actually gonna start with the references for the Labrynna article yesterday, but I kind of got distracted...whoops. :P But you can bet that I'll add as many sources for it as I can, though I'm not sure if I will be able to put up as many since I've only beaten OoA once, so my memory of exact quotes isn't as impressive as OoT, TP, TWW, ALttP, etc. I'll try my best! Dany36 01:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds great! Well if you need help with quotes, let me know. I have beaten OoA several times as well as OoS. I really do appreciate the help with the references too Dany, especially with such an expansive article as one of the country articles. Link87 01:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

HoT
Are you Hero of Time 87? Don Lark Kiin
 * Afraid not sir or maam, whichever you are. Although I am indeed born in 1987 like many, I prefer the name Link87 because it's shorter. I have seen some of the user in question's work however, and I do admire some of what he or she writes. I like the style he/she writes with, though I would prefer to maintain as "encyclopedic" an article style as possible, with only credible theories in theory sections and decent references to back them up. It looks clearer and more authoratative that way. Link87 12:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

its just you have the same name (link, hero of me) and age and kind of the same attitude. plus your working on battle articles which he is infamous for. Don Lark Kiin 21:49, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Battles?? Didn't know the Sacred Realm, Labrynna, or the Great Flood were really battles man (or miss, whichever). Sure the Great Flood is an event and I guess you could say there was probably a "battle" fought between Ganon and Hyrule, but the actual event of the flood doesn't necessarily qualify as a "battle", to me at least. No, I'm working on the articles that have the tag for "Improvement Needed" or that are on the list for improvement. I like to take articles that don't have much to offer and remake them to be as informative as possible, whether that be people, places, things, or events.


 * You know how many "Links" there are on here by the way? There's prolly 15 or 20 others. True, the guy you're talking about (if he is a guy) does refer to the same character, but what can I say it must be a coincidence. And do you know how many people are born in 1987??? Probably millions. I've never made an edit on Zeldapedia in my life. I just pop over from time to time to look at some of their material. And I don't know about the guy's "attitude", I just try to build consensus and try to build the articles here to the best possible standard, alongside some fantastic other users, such as Dany36, Adam, Xizor, etc. So all I can say is no I am not the guy you're looking for if that's what you were hoping I'd say, but I do read some of the work he's done over on Zeldapedia and think he has done some good verbage work. Though he could do a better job of separating more unconfirmed material into proper theory sections. That's one thing I strongly believe in: I'm all for theories, but they belong in a proper theory section with relevant evidence to back them up. That's one reason why I chose to join Zelda Wiki over Zeldapedia.


 * Here at Zelda Wiki we've got a strong set of policies in place and a good administration to enforce them that get along well for the most part. Zeldapedia's content seemed a little "all over the place" and their admins don't seem to get along that well apart from two or three that run it for the most part that I saw. I just felt the atmosphere here at Zelda Wiki seemed more inviting and inclusive, and our policies and administration are light years ahead in my opinion. Zeldapedia's entitled to how they want to run things over on their side, but I preferred order to anarchy or infighting. Those were some of the reasons I chose Zelda Wiki over Zeldapedia though when I first came seeking a place to help out the Zelda community.


 * But as for your friend, sorry but I have no idea who he is to be honest. You'd prolly do better to look on Zeldapedia if he's a user there. This is Zelda Wiki. Link87 23:25, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Light Temple Location/Temple of Power
Ouch, fabrication is such a strong word. I'd love to make a brilliant stand and be all like, "HAH, you were so wrong, the Light Temple is beneath the Temple of Time," but unfortunately you've trumped me in that I don't have a quote directly with me that can prove it. I won't be able to get my hands on the game any time soon (I'm on vacation), but it sounds like you can. I'm pretty sure Rauru mentions the temple's location when he makes that long speech to Link after he first pulls the Master Sword. The location isn't a theory in any case; if Rauru doesn't say it, than my stating of it being underground was a misfire, because I honestly and truly believe that it is completely canon. As for the "Temple of Power," it is mentioned only once (which is probably why you can't remember it), by Shiek in her first talk with Link directly after Rauru's. She's telling Link about how Ganondorf has taken over the five "temples of power" or something like that. Mind you, the words weren't capitalized, but they are the only collective in-game name given to the temples. I hope you don't go an dismantle all my other references to the "Temples of Power" before looking it up; I'd do it myself (it is my memory we're dealing with, after all), but I won't be able to for about two months. All the same though, please don't go calling it a theory; I do have some pride, after all, and it's all a matter of canon vs. incorrect fact, not a theory. But I'll give you credit, I didn't remember those lights; but then again, I don't really believe they are to be compared anyway, considering how nobody complains about the Lost Woods and Lake Hylia being in vastly different locations each game... Two points for the "private chambers," though, I love that description.--Dreyfus 11:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * This discussion would be more relevant at Talk:Temple of Light, but anyway... Just to clarify with information from the OoT text dumps, there is no mention of "temple(s) of power" whatsoever, and the quote from Rauru is as follows:
 * "I am Rauru, one of the ancient Sages... Ages ago, we ancient Sages built the Temple of Time to protect the entrance to the Sacred Realm... This is the Chamber of Sages, inside the Temple of Light... The Temple of Light, situated in the very center of the Sacred Realm, is the last stronghold against Ganondorf's evil forces."

- Rauru in Ocarina of Time


 * 12:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm going to say it like it is and just like Adam said: there is no mention of these statements or titles anywhere and no evidence to support them, and they have no place in the mainstream part of an article without that evidence. They can be placed in theory sections, but only if there is credible evidence to back them up. And in this case I'm sorry to say there is no evidence at all, as Adam pointed out. I apologize if the wording seems strong as I respect you as a fellow Zelda fan and colleague, but I have played Ocarina of Time way more times than I could count, and I never once heard any of these things you're saying. I even remember much of the game verbatim, that's how many times I've played it. Sheik never calls them "Temples of Power," he calls them "the five temples...one in a deep forest...one on a high mountain...one under a vast lake...one inside the house of the dead...one inside a goddess of the sand". Rauru never once states that the Temple of Light is beneath the Temple of Time, he makes it clear that it resides in the Sacred Realm. Link87 12:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Fair enough for me. Though it really makes me wonder where I got that then...--Dreyfus 12:34, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * It's all good Dreyfus, we all can make mistakes with text from the games or the like so it's not like it hasn't happened before. But one thing we do go by here, as Dany36 has been wonderful about in working with me to make sure of, is that as much of the information as possible in the articles have references and evidence to back up all our statements so we have the highest credibility as a source of Zelda information. Perhaps you may have read something from one of the Japanese versions of the manuals, which are known to differ from the American ones, which seem to be the more widely-accepted versions. Sometimes you'll run into different titles in the Japanese versions of the games, so I'm guessing perhaps that you may have gotten some of these ideas from there. But never once have I heard of any of this, and that's just being honest. Link87 12:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)