User talk:MannedTooth

Hello
-- TheStoneWatcher (talk) 22:58, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Multiple edits
Hello! I noticed you've been making a lot of edits to the same page over a short time. Doing this clutters the Recent Changes and the, and makes patrolling more difficult for the Zelda Wiki staff. So instead of saving a lot, use the "show preview" button next to the "save page" button. It'll allow you to view your edit for any mistakes so you don't have to make a lot of fixing edits or additional ones! :) 20:09, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, yeah right sorry, the thing is I am currently reading a Prima Guide and adding sources, so whenever I find something relevant and added on here, I look for it and edit the section, add the source then save and proceed to continue reading. So that's why. Will try to prevent that from now on! Thanks for warning me ! :) MannedTooth (talk) 20:28, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I would suggest to write down all the sources first and then add them to the relevant page once you're done with the guide. 20:59, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Mistakes in Zelda Material
Hey there, just wanted to give you a heads up that we have a page that's meant exclusively for mistakes in the series. We don't usually note errors on the main pages unless they're rather significant, so your edit about the Labrynna typo has been moved there. If you know of any other mistakes, that would be the place to put them. :) 03:48, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! So is this edit alright? MannedTooth (talk) 04:02, 28 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me. 04:16, 28 December 2016 (UTC)


 * By the way, Zelda Wiki is written in an in-universe style, so please avoid using "the player". Try to describe things happening to or being done by "Link" whenever possible. 07:42, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Source Placement
Hey there. Just for your information, citations are always supposed to be placed immediately after the next available pronunciation and not mid-sentence. I saw you had some confusion about the Shipyard Worker's citation, so I thought I would explain why that was there and not immediately following his name. 04:33, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, alright, I sent a message concerning that subject to Chuck. Thanks ! :) MannedTooth (talk) 04:38, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I made a typo. Punctuation, not "pronunciation". 04:41, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Uhm... This guide says that it's okay not to put it only after punctuation marks, not trying to argue. But what should we follow, this or what you said and thus we should remove this from the guide? MannedTooth (talk) 05:01, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Our guides are outdated and currently undergoing revision. Updates to it have not yet been published. 05:08, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay! :) MannedTooth (talk) 05:12, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Unnecessary sourcing
Hello. I just wanted to talk to you about the citations you've added to the wiki over the last month, specifically in regards to the game pages.

A lot of the citations you've added, namely those from the PH game guide, have been redundant and unnecessary. Generally, when we look to the game guides for sources, they are used to source information that is not commonly known (such as release dates or names of enemies or places). Information that is already widely known or obvious, such as game modes or save files, do not have to be sourced when the game is already released. Those things are already common knowledge. Further more, some of the citations you've added have not been consistent to the statement you were sourcing. For instance: you stated that the World of the Ocean King has sixteen islands, but the two sources from the PH guide did not explicably say there were sixteen. Unless the citation actually applies to the statement that is being sourced, it should not be added.

Adding sources for the release dates is quite handy, and we do appreciate that. But for everything else that is already well known, those do not. Please try to take greater care in adding sources. Thanks. 20:17, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Hylian Decrytology
I am not sure if you are already aware, but we already have a dedicated page on TWW Hylian translations, found here. If you'd like to help out with translations, you can edit that. 02:38, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh! I did not know! Thank you! :) Feel free to delete my page. :P MannedTooth (talk) 03:55, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Sandboxes
You may not edit another user's sandboxes without their express permission. Trainees' sandboxes are especially off limits as it is part of their training procedure, which is to be overseen by me. 19:06, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, I did not know that, sorry! :p MannedTooth (talk) 19:08, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Email
Please check your email. 01:51, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

I need some admins to help me figure some stuff out!
MannedTooth, I'm new to this and tonight there has been a lot of people adding stuff and changing my user talk page around. I see that you moved my bio to my user page and put everything else back. I want my talk page to be MY talk page and under my control. I've read https://zelda.gamepedia.com/Help:Talk_Pages and it says do not delete others comments or yours unless it's on your own talk page, which all of this is. So, please, help clarify. I don't even know if this is the appropriate way to reach out to you. There's an overwhelming amount of minutia that goes into this site. All I want to do is contribute how I can and be able to remove snarky comments that are 4 days over-due and were unnecessary at the time. So all I am seeing is that some joker that couldn't read a time stamp, brought up an issue 4 days old on my user talk page and the only thing that it is allowed to have is his comment? Please help me to understand because I'm a noob to wiki stuffs but this just seems outrageous. I see no where that says I can't modify my own user page or even delete material from it since it is mine. Isn't that what the archived history is for to see past edits so I don't have a constant reminder that someone can't read time-stamps as my first and only permissible text on MY talk page?


 * It's alright, we all have to start somewhere, and yes this is the correct way to contact a staff member. About talk pages, basically they are to remain untouched for archive purpose. (Like if you debate with someone over the way an article should be written, then you will keep a proof that you discussed it and chose an option over the other.) You are allowed to edit your comments to fix mistakes (such as typos). What the help page meant by deleting other's comments was that you can delete spam or offensive comments left on it (but it is better to contact staff directly so that we can ban the editor if needed) or archive your talk page if you want to clean it up. See Tony's talk page for an example of archiving. Usually, you don't archive unless your page gets heavy, that means that you shouldn't do it right now. Lastly, the time between an event and a message doesn't matter, we admins often talk about things that happened weeks ago. All you can do about that is tell the other contributor that he misread the time stamp and politely explain why his message is irrelevant now. On the other hand, if someone spams or harasses you, feel free to contact staff before adding even more fuel on the fire.


 * Lastly, don't forget to sign your comments by writing four tildes ( ~ ) at the end of your message. Don't hesitate to contact me again if you need to. MannedTooth (talk) 03:01, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Alrighty. I think I'm starting to get the hang of it.  In this instance is there a way I can please clear my talk page or archive it as you say?  I don't think the content of the posts merits any substance to anyone and is an eyesore for me haha.


 * You'll eventually understand and become an experienced user if you keep using the platform, which I hope you will. As for your archiving question, unfortunately the answer is no, we can't allow you to create a talk page archive with a single thread in it just for your eyes comfort. If you get active on here, your talk page is bound to get filled eventually with comments, that's just how it is. Also, let me remind you to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). If you don't know how to type them, look down at the formatting links below, there it is, just click on it. MannedTooth (talk) 03:24, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't mean to be argumentative, but telling me I'll eventually understand doesn't really clarify it for me. Can you point to a specific rule that prohibits me from deleting things from my talk page?  "DO NOT write over anyone else's comments or delete comments unless they are on your own user talk" is very clear on https://zelda.gamepedia.com/Help:Talk_Pages not to delete others comments on other people's talk pages, but the "unless they are on your own user talk" is a pretty self explanatory: don't delete stuff from other people's pages, only yours.   From what I can tell is that it is an unwritten rule that you guys go by to maintain a thorough record of history, but I can't find it actually spelled out in a rule.  And if there is one, it is in contradiction to the broader statement made on the aforementioned help page.  Yes, I edited the Key Items page and removed the Thunder Helm because I'd forgotten that it was a Key Item after defeating Master Kohga.  The day I did that I was using the page as a reference to ensure I didn't miss any key items and wasn't thinking about that moment in the game and once it was undone by another user, and their summary of the edit reminded me, I backed off because I was wrong.  Then 4 days later some Sassy Sue Smart Pants comes to my page to chastise me and I'm not allowed to take that down just doesn't sit well with me.  To be chastised at all after the fact is frustrating enough, but for me to have to wear a scarlet letter is mind-boggling.  Considering that I (erroneously--like I said, still learning) replied to him on his page, and he got to delete my comment from his page, so I'm seeing some double standards in this rule that I can't find.  Could you please point me to the written rule that you're resting your decision to not let me simply erase it from MY talk page? And if you can't find it to just let it slide and let me delete this crap off my page (it's a few sentences..),  and if it must be filled before it can be archived, can I just start typing my memoir and theories about the missing pieces or a bunch of Lorem Ipsum until it's full enough?  Because this whole experience has been very off-putting.  Arbitrary rules that are haphazardly enforced where I'm the one getting the brunt of all of it--all the hope in the world that I'd want to continue contributing won't sweeten that sour mess. Jmhurd (talk) 04:11, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * My talk page has dumb old stuff on it too, so does Manned's. But really, why care? It's just a talk page. The reason why BlackDragon deleted it from his own talk page was because we prefer to keep discussions on one talk page and you had replied to him in his own page. It might've been a mistake on his end to talk page you for the Thunder Helm edits, but you'd have to wait for his explanation on it. In the end really, talk pages are just kinda "there" and don't have the same freedom as your user page. And yeah, if you wanted to write a bio, it should go on your user page, so I'm a bit confused why you removed it afterwards. I do see what you mean about the Help page being contradictory but then again it was written in 2008 and never really modified further. I'll see about updating it to be a bit more clearer. --PPLToast (talk) 09:23, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

OoS
Hi, MannedTooth

I noticed in some articles that the title "Oracle of Ages" was either duplicated or wrong placed, so I went to check the template OoS and then saw this edit So, why did you replace Seasons for Ages in the template? Was it a test, a needed change, or a mistake? This (first paragraph) and this (table) are good examples

I guess you just mistaked that template with this one or forgot to replace the name, haha Sorry if I'm wrong, anyway!

Have a nice day. Wizdeck (talk) 16:13, 27 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for pointing this out. I'm a little surprised that no one else had spotted or said anything about this until now. That is almost definitely a mistake so I have corrected it now. 16:36, 27 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Oh my, I made a mistake. Thank you for noticing and telling me, and also thank you Link Lab for fixing it. :s MannedTooth (talk) 16:56, 27 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Link Lab! I didn't edit it myself because I didn't want to mess up the template, just in case.
 * And don't worry, MannedTooth, we all make mistakes. I'm glad I helped.
 * Wizdeck (talk) 18:38, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Goddesses
In that case, Din, Nayru, and Farore are called the Deities of Power, Wisdom, and Courage respectively through text in. Would that work as a better title? PowerMasterAlex (talk) 18:56, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Can you get me the exact quote? MannedTooth (talk) 19:54, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Referenced on Din's page: "Aeons ago, the Deities of Power, Courage, and Wisdom descended to the world of chaos. They created the world that we know and left behind a symbol of their strength, the golden emblem known as the Triforce, which they hid in the Golden Land." I messed up, though, this is actually from 's manual. The quote could still work, though improperly: "Before time began, before spirits and life existed... Three golden goddesses descended upon the chaos that was Hyrule... Din, the goddess of power... Nayru, the goddess of wisdom... Farore, the goddess of courage...[...] Din... With her strong flaming arms, she cultivated the land and created the red earth." — Great Deku Tree. Still a title. PowerMasterAlex (talk) 20:26, 1 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Oh my, sorry for not answering earlier. Long story short, the first terms would work, not the second ones since they do not respect our term policy. A term must be either capitalized or colored. Don't hesitate if you've got any more questions. :) MannedTooth (talk) 00:54, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Breath of the Wild text dump
Hello. I see that you have created a page which contains part of the text in Breath of the Wild. Do you have in your possession the text dump for the game? I did some search in google but I didn't find anything. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 22:41, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Hey there, sorry for the late reply. You can find it here. MannedTooth (talk) 20:26, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Cadence of Hyrule main page tile
Why is File:CoH Tile.png locked? I made a 230×125 tile from the icon artwork which I believe is much better than the current, which I believe is from a trailer screenshot. rjd1922 (talk) 04:15, 23 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Hey there, the file is locked because it is part of the files that affect the main page. Surely you can understand why we wouldn't want just anyone to have access to that. If you believe you've got a more appealing tile image to replace it with, feel free to upload it under another name and link it to me or simply join our Discord server where we can discuss it. Thanks! MannedTooth (talk) 20:41, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Why not import directly from the Fandom wiki?
A great many number of the pages there are of objectively superior quality to the ones presently existing here. The nav box on the bottom would be quite useful Kenjiillumni (talk) 06:47, 30 October 2019 (UTC)


 * The immediate concern is licensing/legal attribution, etc. We would have to ensure that we are handling any imports within the boundaries of our GNU FDL license and the license that Zeldapedia uses.
 * The other concern would be that Zeldapedia and Zelda Wiki have very different practices and sensibilities. Though you might find the articles on Zeldapedia to be superior, they don't follow our editing standards. The articles simply will not translate directly to Zelda Wiki's guidelines.
 * Instead of directly copying any articles, you can attempt to relate what the articles on Zeldapedia contain to Zelda Wiki's standards. I'm afraid that if you continue to copy articles and templates from Zeldapedia, we will be forced to undo your work. TriforceTony (talk) 18:11, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Why is linking to external sources banned and how is that of any benefit to users?
"We do not link to external website outside of partners and Wikipedia" why? What possible reason could there be for this when there is so much good data available off site that users would benefit from? (Кэне _零三 ) 12:56, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi. First of all, because we would rather have that information be hosted here instead of elsewhere. Also, external websites aren't always trustworthy, this is why we only link to approved websites such as other Gamepedia/Fandom wikis and Wikipedia itself. What is the information you wanted to link to? I'm sure we can find a way to host it ourselves if it's relevant to the Zelda series. MannedTooth (talk) 01:24, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * A map of the Lynel locations in BOTW. While we can host it here, I am not the content creator and there fore cannot upload it. Which is why sending an external link to an image that is EXTREMELY RELEVANT to the Zelda wiki's goal would be preferable. (Кэне _零三 09:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If you want to link to a map, you can always link to Zelda Maps which is a website developed by folks at Zelda Universe. It does allow to check only for Lynels. MannedTooth (talk) 20:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Wanna talk about my octorok change
So I get that I shouldn't just use the Oos filename but the sprites look exactly the same, can I just copy over the sprite in the oos file to the ooa file? Cuz I mean they're the same sprite. This should honestly go with most enemies in both of those games that have an image for one of them but not the other.


 * Hey there, first of all: thank you for contributing on Zelda Wiki, it's super appreciated! As for the files, we should only use files respective to their own game in the infoboxes, though file redirects are a thing (as you can see, I redirected them both to the LADX sprite since that's the same one). So everything works the same, but for standardization, we should use OoS for OoS and OoA for OoA. Always. Lastly, I'd like to invite you to join the Discord server where we can discuss those issues in real time. Oh, and also don't forget to sign your talk page messages with four tildes . Thanks again! :) MannedTooth (talk) 20:10, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

has it been confirmed that the octoballoon in the palace of the four swords and the octoroks behave differently or is it simply because of the dungeon design having an effect on the enemy?