User:K2L3798@legacy41960118/Misc

Here you can read the rest of K2L-related garbage. These were moved from the main userpage in order to save some space, and taking advantage of a navigation template.

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"J'ai vu quatre personnes prendre un bain au printemps. Deux d'entre eux jouaient intimement, l'un deux les regardait, stupéfié, et l'autre les regardait avec jalousie."

- K2L (Thanks to Hylian King for the translation to French!)

I place this section here so that the section index doesn't screw up the black background (Update: I already learned how to get rid of the table) never mind, Abdul did a great job with the background color, so here I'll just place a couple amusing images.

Created Pages
"Please don't tell my father"

- Princess Ruto, Ocarina of Time


 * Star Isles (three-page merge).
 * Technology in The Legend of Zelda Universe
 * Playable Secondary Characters
 * Musical Session
 * Cat Chat
 * Fisherman's Jumping Game
 * Mistakes in The Legend of Zelda Series
 * Retrieval of the Ocarina of Time
 * Iconic Quotes from The Legend of Zelda
 * Sword Training
 * Arrow Orb (a.k.a. Thingamabob (suggested by Abdullah), Sphere Doohickey (suggested by Matt), Magical Arrow Redirectional Device (suggested by Noble Wrot), and Sphere thingy (by Dany36)).
 * Pretty elemental (no pun intended, honest!) pages like Shadow Dungeon, Desert Dungeon, Earth Dungeon, Light Dungeon, Labyrinth, Light, Lumber, Music, Experience, Fire, Darkness, and Sand.
 * Boss (it technically existed beforehand, but only as a redirect to the Boss category. For some odd reason, nobody though that it would actually work as an article).
 * Transportation
 * Scaldera
 * Controversy in The Legend of Zelda Series
 * Essence and Possession (disambiguation pages).
 * Categories like Racing games and Equipment.
 * Some templates: TWW Bag Items, Environment, ST Delivery Items, Gameplay, and Level (during a very boring period of free time when I had nothing else to do).
 * Userboxes like User hates Ferrus, User likes Spinner, User likes Sand Wand, and User likes Beetle.
 * WikiExclusives, such as:
 * Influence of the Gameplay Devices (thanks to Mandi for publishing it).
 * Decay of the Hyrulean Economy (thanks to Cipriano for publishing it).
 * Numerology in The Legend of Zelda Series (thanks to Abdul for publishing it).
 * Some talk pages, archives, and LOTS of redirects.

Theories I believe or personally have
"Has your destiny darkened?"

- Astrid, Phantom Hourglass (Latin American version, I'm not sure what she says in the US version)


 * The Split Timeline, of course. Except I don't follow either discipline, both of which assume that the NES and SNES games are either in the Adult or Child Timeline. What I believe instead is that the two timelines merge at some point (probably thanks to the Oracle games, as they're eventually linked), meaning that the NES and SNES games happen after that. This might be difficult to understand at first, but it helps to compensate the weaknesses of one Discipline with the strengths of the other (like, for example, the Triforce being unified in the Adult Timeline and still split in the Child one). Never mind, Nintendo really screwed the whole timeline thing, so I don't believe this anymore. Link defeated by Ganon in OOT to settle the old-school 2D Zelda games? Horrendously pathetic, guys, Congratulations. >_>
 * There may be a mysterious connection between Snowhead and Snowpeak (and, by extension, between Hyrule and Termina), in the same way there is between Lost Woods and the underground catacombs of Clock Tower. It helps that both places are north of their respective lands, and their respective dungeons are located in a sort-of peninsula surrounded by a huge precipice. As a matter of fact, it's possible that Hyrule and Termina are actually next to each other in geographical terms. Most players think the two lands are dimensionally-parallel opposites of each other, but only because Link warps from one to the other through a warp hole. And even then, Hyrule itself has spots of similar nature that allow the young hero to warp instantly from, say, Lost Woods to Goron City or to Zora River; in neither case one warps to a new dimension or universe, just elsewhere. The same thing might happen with Hyrule and Termina.
 * After playing Phantom Hourglass, I noticed a possible connection between the Northeastern quadrant of the sea and the Twilight Princess portrayal of Gerudo Desert, which suggests that one is the dimensional counterpart of the other. To elaborate:
 * It happens that the Cobble Kingdom had an exceptional staff of architects and swordsmiths led by King Mutoh; apparently, said race of people used to live originally in Gerudo Desert, meaning that their first generation of existence might have consisted of Mutoh and his carpenters (here I'm speaking about Ocarina of Time); over the years, their glory extended to other places, building what we see as the pyramids and temples in the Isle of the Dead and the Isle of Ruins; therefore, the suspiciously unknown extinction of the kingdom might have to do with the Great Flood. For all this to be true, of course, the World of the Ocean King would have to be placed west of the Great Sea; by doing this, we have a geographical proximity between the aforementioned isles and Forsaken Fortress, whose other inhabitants (the Gerudo) vanished after Ganondorf took possession of the place (in hindsight, the original carpenters might have done well at going to other places before it was too late). With the previously cited proximity, the territory of the defunct Cobble Kingdom is in an equivalent position to that of the Desert Province in the GameCube version of Twilight Princess (which is the only geographically canonical version of the two).
 * With the above points and beliefs illustrated, we can easily notice the subsequent analogies between Arbiter's Grounds from Gerudo Desert in the Child Timeline, and Mutoh's Temple from the Isle of Ruins in the Adult Timeline. For example, both dungeons are in a distant corner of their respective locations, both cover related themes (AG is a Desert Dungeon, MT is an Earth Dungeon), both have a disproportionately huge boss, and both share elements of the undead without being strictly Shadow Dungeon.
 * Lastly, I think that the reason why Link is born and raised in Ordon Village is because the Hero of Time married Malon and both ran Lon Lon Ranch together, spawning generations of farmers who held the bloodline of Link I (or Link II if we remember the Skyward Sword incarnation). Well, my theory list ends here. I have more, but I'm aware that ZW is not a repertoire of original theories, unless they're WikiExclusives (I'll see if I can write one in December 2010).

Plus and Minus of each The Legend of Zelda game
"I have an Internet Crush, you know ..... every time a server crash occurs, I feel crushed by frustration"

- K2L, every time he is asked why he doesn't have a social network account yet and is told that a girlfriend can be found on the web

The Legend of Zelda

 * (+) : Obviously the first of its kind. The Second Quest mechanic is pure genius. Dungeons have all creative shapes. Favorite dungeon is level 8 (Lion Labyrinth) in both quests.
 * (-) : Excruciatingly repetitive bosses. Dragon with one head, dragon with two, dragon with three, dragon with four, ..... red and blue Gohma, big and bigger Digdogger. I also don't like dungeon keys being for sale in a shop, for heaven's sake!! Least favorite is level 6 (Dragon Labyrinth)in First Quest, 4 (Snake Labyrinth) in Second; they're both dreadful!!

The Adventure of Link

 * (+) : Truly intense game. Feels more complete and well-rounded than its predecessor, specially thanks to the new elements incorporated (towns, magic, special sword moves, etc). Favorite dungeon is Great Palace.
 * (-) : Second Quest is nothing compared to its prequel's. Least favorite dungeon is Palace on the Sea.

A Link to the Past

 * (+) : Very long game. Well-served dungeons, colorful overworld, vast array of items, memorable characters and bosses. Favorite dungeon goes between Misery Mire and Turtle Rock.
 * (-) : Now it lacks a Second Quest entirely :,(. Least favorite dungeon is Ice Palace.

Ocarina of Time

 * (+) : Truly a masterpiece, the dungeons are expertly-designed and have pretty unique puzzles and challenges, not to mention great bosses. Along with Super Mario 64 and Metroid Prime, a textbook example of how to carefully move to 3D. Favorite dungeon is Spirit Temple.
 * (-) : Pacing is suffocatingly slow during the start of the game. Mini-games are simple and simplistic. Least favorite dungeon is Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly.

Majora's Mask

 * (+) : A whole new universe ... literally. Has so many strange and exotic details that it's a guaranteed ecstasy to play. Sidequests are more intricate, including the mini-games. Favorite dungeon is the Stone Tower Temple.
 * (-) : Too much reuse of technical elements from Ocarina of Time, including character models. Least favorite dungeon is Woodfall Temple.

The Wind Waker

 * (+) : A big world before your eyes. When I submerged into this adventure, I didn't want to come back. Characters are INCREDIBLY likable, and Windfall Island would be my ideal homeworld. Favorite dungeon is Wind Temple.
 * (-) : Some quests, like the Nintendo Gallery completion and the mandatory Triforce mission can be overwhelmingly long. Especially the former. Forest Haven is a joke of a dungeon.

Twilight Princess

 * (+) : Easily the longest game in the series so far. Dark, edgy and sexy. Midna is a great sidekick, and Hyrule looks simply beautiful. Has lots of mini-dungeons (in the form of Lantern Caverns), as well as very fun minigames like the Snowboard Race and the Fruit pop game. Arbiter's Grounds is a very good dungeon, so is City in the Sky.
 * (-) : The game has a few missed opportunities; Wolf Link and most of the new items are ultimately underused; also, placing Pieces of Heart in dungeons was a bad idea because that left the game with less sidequests than the previous 3D games in the series. Temple of Time is perhaps my least favorite dungeon.

Phantom Hourglass

 * (+) : Controls are A WONDER ON THEIR OWN, the game clearly exploits the possibilties of its console (unlike TP), which is seen with the usage of items like the Bombchu and the Grappling Hook. Mutoh's Temple is my favorite here.
 * (-) : No new items =/. That alone took me by surprise. Also, like TP, the game has few sidequests, this time because of the moronic idea of putting almost half of the upgrades for sale in shops, instead of minigames. Temple of the Ocean King can lick by shoes.

Spirit Tracks

 * (+) : Feels better developed than Phantom Hourglass, the train concept is much better than it sounds, nicely challenging dungeons and bosses. The concept of looking for hidden stations enrich the adventure. Tower of Spirits gets my vote here.
 * (-) : Too much lag when tanks or warships approach. Rabbits are too difficult to capture. The Ocean Temple is a kick on the balls. It doesn't even have water!

Games I own or had borrowed
"Really, there are things I will never be able to see, ranks I will never be able to earn, and actions I will never be able to do"

- K2L, wondering why he is even trying to live.

Since late '80s, my family has had video games (or rather, my brother did) both on console and on the PC. My memory is lazy at remembering since when exactly we had each game, and there were lots of them! Thus this list will start at 1998, when I owned my very first console. Also, inclusion of borrowed games are limited to those I played to the end, instead of those I just had for one or two days.


 * 1998
 * Mortal Kombat 4
 * 1080 Snowboarding


 * 1999
 * Ocarina of Time (borrowed)
 * Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire (borrowed)
 * Banjo-Kazooie
 * Donkey Kong 64


 * 2000
 * Mario Party 2 (borrowed)
 * Jet Force Gemini
 * GoldenEye 007 (borrowed) (I originally was going to receive this one in Christmas 1999, but I refused to even play it because of my belief that ALL movie-based games sucked).
 * San Francisco Rush (borrowed)
 * Majora's Mask


 * 2001
 * Banjo-Tooie
 * Conker's Bad Fur Day (I originally told my brother to go for Mario Party 3, but the game was nowhere to be seen. And instead he brought this game because the cover hooked his attention).
 * Luigi's Mansion


 * 2002
 * Mario Kart 64
 * Pikmin
 * Super Mario Sunshine


 * 2003
 * Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
 * FIFA 2004 (given to someone else in Christmas 2009. I never asked for this game in the first place).
 * Collector's Edition


 * 2004
 * The Wind Waker
 * Super Smash Bros. Melee
 * Mario Party 5
 * Star Fox Adventures (I originally requested Star Fox Assault, but the game was delayed and my family thought I was looking for the then-available Adventures; talk about bad luck).


 * 2005
 * Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
 * Killer7
 * Mario Party 7


 * 2006
 * Mario Kart DS (indefinitely lent to a little girl who indefinitely lent me Yoshi's Island).
 * Wave Race Blue Storm
 * Geist (I was planning to have this one in Christmas 2004, but it met a delay until 2005).


 * 2007
 * Wii Sports
 * Twilight Princess
 * A Link to the Past
 * Super Mario Galaxy


 * 2008
 * Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
 * Yoshi's Island DS (indefinitely borrowed from a little girl to whom I indefinitely lent Mario Kart DS).
 * Super Smash Bros. Brawl
 * Mario Kart Wii
 * No More Heroes
 * Okami
 * Super Mario 64 DS


 * 2009
 * Metroid Prime (I originally received a very damaged copy of the game in December 30th of the last year. My brother then purchased another copy which worked).
 * Punch-Out!!
 * Wii Sports Resort


 * 2010
 * New Super Mario Bros
 * Bangai-O Spirits
 * New Super Mario Bros. Wii (borrowed)
 * Mario Party DS
 * Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes
 * Phantom Hourglass


 * 2011
 * Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition
 * Donkey Kong Country Returns
 * No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle
 * Spirit Tracks (had it since late 2010, but only started playing since this year).
 * Super Mario Galaxy 2

ASCII Art
"In the name of Harman"

- Iwazaru, killer7

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Skyward Sword review
Let me start by saying that I used to be a Zelda fan since 1999. My brother's BFF lent him Ocarina of Time for the Nintendo 64. And let me tell you, it was an absolute blast to play. My brother, his friend and a cousin of mine all played it and beat it back then, and I was limited to playing some unimportant parts (in my brother's playthrough, I only did minor things like messing around Hyrule Field, getting the Longshot in the Water Temple, learning the Sun's Song, etc.; in my cousin's playthrough, we could both advance on the same file, but my lack of experience in English only allowed me to find the first and seventh dungeons, which were anyway the easiest to find). It wasn't until 2000 when I could start my own playthrough and, after what was perhaps the most frustrating instance of language barriers, I was able to finish it. I had died a few times in the final battle, so I guess that was what the uber-moronic idiots at Nintendo wanted me to do to ensure the canonical connections with ALTTP. Pathetic from A to Z, I gotta tell you. Flat-out pathetic.

Since then, my love towards Zelda increased with each new installment, getting MM in late 2000, and Collector's Edition in late 2003, allowing me to play the two NES Zeldas as well, as well as owning finally OOT for me to have as many playthroughs with it as possible. Unfortunately, some time after playing MM (we're back in 2001, for reference), I've read in the magazines that OOT was better, and my brother, his friend and my cousin all thought OOT was still better. It made me regret about playing the game, because I was supposed to play a game that would surpass OOT, instead of an inferior product. Since then I had decided to not play another Zelda game until being sure it was acclaimed like expected. This is the reason why I didn't get TWW until November 2004, since not only that was a very divisive, flame-baiting and flat-out detrimental installment in the franchise: When TP was first revealed at E3 2004, everybody was completely ecstatic about the things to come, and finally decided to forget TWW ever existed. There was simply NO reason I was going to play that Superman 64 of a game. But I did it, because m curiosity overrode my rational skills, I somehow thought it was a good idea to play a game with as bad reputation as TWW, and I did it because I have the flaw of being a living being whose even bigger flaw is being curious. So I played the game, and I loved it; it was one of the most heartwarming games I ever tried. But enjoying the game was useless. Asking somebody anything abouit the game would only give me a taunt or laugh as a reply, he or she would simply tell me: "Dude, wait until the new GCN game instead, lolz"...

OK, fine, I'm a f@g for having ever tried playing TWW. Fine, I'll play under your rules. Let's wait until TP, then!

Sooooo, ..... fast forward February 2007, I got a Wii finally, so I could play TP until the end. I thought it was finally going to archieve what neither MM nor TWW did, exceeeeeeept not. If anything, fans couldn't have been more rabid than back then. They called it a disappointment, an OOT clone, a pushover, outdated, rehashed, devoid of ambition, etc. Quite simply, people was very disappointed with the game, and I was idiotic enough to bite the bait.

Since then, I did my best to remain cautious about what games to get. Neither PH nor ST I even touched until 2010, because getting it any time soon would only mean getting more polarizing games, so I had expected a reasonable period of time in order to let the controversies and hatred towards both games cool down. Looking back, it's what I would have liked to do with MM, TWW and TP as well.

And indeed, it turns out that, over time, fans' reception towards these games seemed to be more positive, all thanks to the extremely irritating Zelda Cycle. The very games that had been called disappointments (MM, TWW and TP), started being venerated as Supreme Gods, Popes and Sacred Cows. Like, of course, all of these uber-late-arriving praise would help these games at all. Even more irritatingly, most people started insisting: "I never understood all the hate". Of course they didn't, because they're all hypocrites, they tend to call a game bad in year 1 and call it "underrated, underapreciated masterpieces" 15 years after release, when Nintendo simply doesn't care about past games anymore. That's why I decided to not get SS at all, because I'm tired of falling at the same trap, I'll only give it a try when the Zelda Cycle is in its favor, when people start overpraising it like they're doing now with the older games. I'm now interested on getting games with reputation, and SS is no such thing. In fact, SS has been accussed of having the following flaws:

1. Filler 2. Bad graphics 3. No voice acting 4. Motion controls suck 5. Flying sucks 6. Silent Realm sucks 7. Overworld sucks 8. Bosses suck 9. Dungeons suck 10. TP items "were cooler" 11. Ugly name 12. Fi is annoying

The game I was expecting for 5 long and agonizing years .... is this game? A game that has been called the Other M / Sonic 2006 / ET the Extra-Terrestrial of the franchise? No thanks, this is where I leave the train. Both the franchise and its unmatchedly hypocritical fanbase. I'll wait until a futuere game is released, and hopefully recived unanimous acclaim like OOT did. It's long overdue, for heaven's sake!! The franchise can't tolerate yet another failure. It needs a badass game that brings back the crowd, unifies it and gives the se3ries the glory that was last seen in Ocarina of Time.

Bad news is, of course, that I'll have to wait 5 more years for the game to come, only 3 if developers are to be believed (read: they're lying). Very hopefully it will be a paid-off wait. Until then, I'll probably plan divorcing on the franchise. It's unacceptable that it only gets love-it-or-hate-it installments nowadays, but it's what has resulted after raising the bar so high with OOT. Oh, and the fanbase being spoiled brats.

Peace.