Talk:Professor

This page needs some work. Anyone have the mangas who's willing to help? 19:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'll just find 'em and read over them again, then presuming nobody fixes it while I'm busy, I'll try and improve this page... --Felicia&#39;s Champion 23:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. I'd do it myself, but I lost the books. Meh. Anyway, it's the second bonus story in OoT part 2. 17:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Name
Is it really appropriate to use his non-canonical name? Just thinking... The name "Dr. Mizumi" doesn't appear in the games anywhere and we've named a whole article after it. Hmm. 01:14, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I never really liked that either. I guess we could move it to Marine Scientist or something. XD Dany36 01:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Well in Ocarina of Time he's called the "Lake Scientist" ("Lakeside Laboratory - Daily trying to get to the bottom of the mysteries of Lake Hylia! --Lake Scientist" | Sign) and in Majora's Mask he's called "The Professor" by the Zoras ("How was it? Did the professor at the Marine Research Lab figure out the mystery of the eggs?" | Evan). So. One of those would work (probably the OOT one, since it's more specific than the other). 01:28, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Does anyone else have an opinion? Or is two enough?? 14:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Professor
Why was it renamed "Professor"? He himself signs "Lake Scientist" (see above). The Zoras calls him professor cause it's a title for scientits in general. Also, it's confusing because there's a lot of characters who can have this title, but less can be called Lake Scientists. Jeangabin (talk) 13:50, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Because Lake Scientist is used in OoT while Professor is used in MM, which is his latest appearance. 21:42, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
 * They refer to him as "the professor at the Marine Research Lab" or "the professor at the lab" in Majora's Mask. While he himself signes "Lake Scientist" in Ocarina of Time. I think his signature has more value than people refering to him as "that guy over there". Jeangabin (talk) 14:26, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, his Japanese and manga name means "Lake Water Expert" (Mizumi Hakaze). "Lake Scientist" seems clother than just "professor". Jeangabin (talk) 14:33, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * If Jeangabin's evidence is correct and the Zoras just refer to him vaguely as a professor, I don't think that counts as a title that overrules the definite name of Lake Scientist. It's like saying Link should be moved to "Boy" because Ganondorf calls him that. Peanutjon (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * In OoT he's called Lake Scientist as he works in Lake Hylia, which obviously doesn't apply to MM. As he has no official name, we must go with the closest name/title in his latest appearance, in this case MM. 18:29, 10 April 2016 (UTC)


 * There are certain absolutes w.r.t. how we handle page names. For example, pages are to adopt the name of the latest version of it, if they're the same subject. Dinolfos is a notable example, as it's gone through a lot of different names throughout the series (often typos), so for the sake of ease, it's defaulted to the latest name. (Kargaroc and Kargarok are also noteworthy examples.)
 * Considering Chuck's point that "Lake Scientist" is a gross misnomer for the character in Majora's Mask who is now the primary subject of the article per the reasons I mentioned, the next best thing would be to move to "Professor". 20:46, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The problem is that professor was never intended to be his name. They must have said Hakase in Japanese, which can be traslated to both "professor" or "scientist" I think. If I remeber correctly, he's called "Dr. Mizumi" (Lake Water Expert) in both OoT and MM manga versions. If it isn't a problem to call him "Lake Water Expert" in an official media, why should it be a problem to call him "Lake Scientist" (official eng translation and his in-game signature) on a wiki. Jeangabin (talk) 23:50, 10 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The manga isn't canon to the games. Page articles are named after in-game names. Since he is referred to as "Professor" in MM the game, the page is titled as such. 00:59, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Canon, not canon, or ambigously canon... I think an official media has still more value than a fan opinion. In fact, in Japanese, he is called Mizumi Hakase ("Dr. Mizumi"/"Lake Water Expert"/"Lake Water Scientist"/"Lake Water Professor") in both manga and video games. It's english language versions which translate his name differently each time. Jeangabin (talk) 06:28, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * His appearance in the MM manga: http://www.zelda-infinite.com/files/manga/majora/view.php?chap=6&page=10 (refered to as the "Lake Professor"). Jeangabin (talk) 06:48, 11 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Zelda Wiki policy is that non-canon media does not affect the American English versions, which is what Zelda Wiki covers. Similarly, Japanese media (such as names, etc.) don't really influence the American English canon, for obvious reasons.
 * Bottom line: he is called the "professor" in American English Majora's Mask, not "Lake Scientist". AmEn MM is the latest canon release featuring him, so by policy, we follow that. Non-canon manga adaptations and Japanese language versions are 100% irrelevant to this. 07:21, 11 April 2016 (UTC)