Talk:Princess Ruto

Changes
Deleted the second statement about Ruto Town because it was pointless.

Also the Rito thing because in order to assure such thing we would require to know the etymology of "Rito" which we absolutely can't (and whether it is a Hylian word or a Zora word). Saying it may come from Ruto just because they differ only on a single letter it's like saying "raw" comes from "row".

And all that stuff about the Sages of "Twilight Princess" is plainly stupid. Apart from the facts they all look like decrepit geezers and that we don't know when is the story placed on the timeline, they all talked about how surprised they were when they found out that not only they couldn't kill Ganondorf but that he possessed the Triforce of Power. Excuse me the sheet? Are you telling me the "Ocarina of Time" Sages didn't know that Ganondorf had the Triforce of Power and therefore was immortal? --The CronoLink 18 Feb 2007


 * Yuo guys are bieng jerks for no reason.--Eponasowner 29 December 2007

Agreed. Calibure 16:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Question
Since link gets older, and I'm just guessing that this is before Twilight Princess, how much time passes from his latest adventure when hes an adult and TP? One would only figure that they would have gotten married eventually. How old is Link in TP anyway? --Swords4life44


 * You're forgetting about the whole issue of Link being in Termina. It's just been guessed (politely, that is) that he eventually returned to Hyrule but this is never stated decisively so we don't really know.


 * Also it's never stated when is TP placed on the chronology. We vaguely know that is between OoT and TWW but not exactly. It was said that TP was decades after OoT so I'm guessing the maximum for this is a 100 years after OoT. --The CronoLink


 * I'm pretty sure that he comes back from termina. At the ending scene of MM, it snows wat looks like link back in the lost woods. --Eponasowner 29 December 2007


 * "it snows wat looks like link back" - Forgiving me for having a good laugh about that typo. :) The point is, even if he indeed returned to the Lost Woods, that does not mean he returned to Hyrule. He still didn't find that "friend" of his and for all we know, he continued on to other lands.IfIHaveTo 02:30, 29 December 2007 (EST)

As a kid, Ruto's really a big snot.

Princess or not?
Kay, I know she's a princess, but...isn't it more appropriate for the article to be simply "Ruto", the same way that most encyclopedias list the name first, title second...but is the title at all necessary? She's rarely referred to as "Princess Ruto", unlike "Princess Zelda". Or is it simply for clarification between Ruto Town and the Zora? Saibh 21:45, 20 March 2008 (EDT)


 * Actually, if you take a look at a text dump I think you might be surprised... A quick count gave me 18 instances of Princess (e.g "Princess Ruto", "Ruto, Princess of..." etc) and only 4 instances of Ruto alone. Also, I'd say the differentiation between the Princess and Ruto Town. The other alternative would be a disambig at Ruto, and renaming this to Ruto (Princess), which doesn't sound too great to me. —Adam (talk) 06:48, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Really? Wow, I need to go play that game again. Alright then. Saibh 15:17, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

Ruto is Inappropriate
I think ruto should have had some kind of shirt her father does and her fan art is sometimes a little sickening it really insults the game. --ZeldaGirl101 19:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It would be better not to place such comments on the site. But that is a known issue. It was addressed by the developers eight years ago. For Majora's Mask, Ruto's alternate, Lulu, has clothes. Right now the art on the article is the official art.--Matt 23:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Ruto Queen
Does anyone have any info on what Ruto did after link left the future?(Robeluke 22:27, 22 July 2008 (UTC)).


 * The only thing anyone knows about that is what we're told in later games like Twilight Princess: That Ganondorf was found out and executed. None of the other characters' fates have been talked about. There might be something in Ocarina of Time's credits sequence, but it's been I while since I've seen it. 23:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Move
This has already been suggested once. It is time we do it. The reason that the article about Zelda is Princess Zelda is obvious. It is to differentiate her from the series. But Ruto does not have that problem. Therefore, the her title is, as my English teacher would always put things like this, extra-added-info that is not necessary to identify the person. So we can shorten up this article's title. Do we add the titles to the page names of all the boss pages, or to Ganon's, or Link's? No, that would just be silly. Ruto's title is not required for her identification, so by the style of the other pages, this page must be moved. 22:50, July 30, 2008 (UTC)


 * No, I don't like the idea of that.


 * Whenever I think of this girl, it's PRINCESS Ruto that comes to mind, never just Ruto by itself. Besides, as far as I can remember, the only character to not call her Princess Ruto is King Zora, which is understandable.


 * Now, if, say, Bongo Bongo was constantly called Phantom Shadow Beast Bongo Bongo, then that may just be what title he/it would go under on the Wiki. But, no, he/it isn't, and so it's left as Bongo Bongo.


 * So, if she is consistently called Princess Ruto, then that is how the page should stay. In my eyes, Ruto should redirect there, not the other way around. --Felicia&#39;s Champion 08:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


 * You're forgetting that "Princess" is not a name. It is a title. We do not include titles in the page name unless there is no other choice. With Princess Zelda, there was no choice. Ruto herself calls herself "Ruto" (Princess_Ruto,Princess_Ruto). Remember that "Ruto, Princess of the Zora" is not the same as "Princess Ruto". The word "Princess" does not help at all with determining who she is. There is only one person named Ruto in the whole series. My old English teacher would knock down our grades on our papers if we would ever do something like that. It is completely unnecessary. 16:34, August 9, 2008 (UTC)


 * No, I'm not forgetting that. I'm very aware that few people have the word princess in their actual name.


 * The problem I have, is (apart from above), that Princess Ruto sounds better than just Ruto. Besides, Ruto is already a disambiguation page...


 * --Felicia&#39;s Champion 00:08, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Why are we discussing this again? Look above and you'll see definitive in-game support for the page title. Also, Yuvorias' points about the disambig page is another very compelling reason. Any move would have to be to Ruto (Princess) or Ruto (person), which just sounds dumb. 12:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Adam, I know full well about the above section. Look more closely at my first sentence in this section. That in-game support is not definitive. It is just the characters being polite. Look at Ruto's letter. She obviously thinks her name is just Ruto. How dare you try to tell us that her name is not what she says it is? You can try to call me Matthew, but I won't respond. Because I don't consider that to be my name. I still assert that it is more encyclopedic to have it be just Ruto. We don't need a disambig page to tell the difference between the princess and the town. It isn't that hard. Take a look at Rope. See the message at the top? Simple, easy, and efficient. We cannot discriminate between the titles of the characters. If we don't move this page. Then we'll have to move every single boss that has a title to include the title in the name. That will never happen. It is not that hard to have the title and name bolded at the beginning of the article. We need to keep our standards up. 21:48, November 15, 2008 (UTC)