User talk:TriforceTony

Those new HW Recolor Renders
Just a heads up, those are official models, but fan made poses. Truth be told I've made contact with the person who made those renders and we are set to re-do all the re-color costume images with custom poses made specifically for both this wiki and the Koei wiki. So while those are good for now, better renders are on the way. Ixbran (talk) 22:20, 21 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up! 22:31, 21 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The theme were going to try and go for is that re-color costumes based off something specific will be posed similarly to the artwork of the being they are possibly referencing. IE This recolor costume render will be posed like this artwork its thought to be based off of. When it comes to costumes that don't have a specific/possible references then we are going to have the model posed similarly to an artwork relating to them already, such as this recolor costume being posed to how the same character appears in this artwork. First were trying to get our hands on all the game models, and my friend is going to put the appropriate bones to each one so they can be posed specifically for this project. Luckily my friend is a sweet heart and shes willing to do this work for free. We just don't have a set date/time when they will all be ready, just know they will be some point hopefully soon. Ixbran (talk) 22:55, 21 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I'll be honest: I don't like the idea of basing poses off of inferred connections. We've butted heads over this before, but the fact is that it's clear nobody can agree 100% on these ( even you have changed your opinion on some ), so the only rational move available is to omit subjective views from the Wiki and leave it to the viewer to make their own inference and form their own opinions. Costumes that have explicit patterns are more acceptable, because these are generally irrefutable. So I would heavily advise against this, even for Koei Wikia as well. For Zelda Wiki, objectivity is the ideal. We purposefully leave subjectivity for the fans, both to remain neutral and to be as accurate as possible.undefined
 * To offer an alternative, I think it would be more helpful to pose them in the same manner as their neutral artwork, like this one for that particular Costume you linked.
 * For your consideration, the developers even did this, as you can see here, here and here (with Lana[ 1, 2, 3 ] and several others too). I know it might create a sort of dullness in presentation, but the precedence shows that the devs chose these poses to best showcase the characters, and I don't think it would hurt to follow suit. At least in that regard, it would create relative uniformity, and it might save some work of having to rig them all in a multitude of different positions. 08:06, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

SS Items template is ready, maybe?
Hi, I've finally gotten some bursts of time in to settle modifying the nav templates I'm using for the SS Items template, however there's still a few things:

First, The image quality/size I decided on and there being 6 levels means that there's about 6*800KB of images to load, which I am concerned about whether it shouldn't be used until that is reduced. (I note that if we're cropping upper level images, the translucency of the background means that we can't overlap these sections...)

Also, I just remembered, but there are some modifications to Nav Template for my Nav Template1 that I'd like for someone to check in case there are issues that may later pop up unannounced.

Thanks!

-- KokoroSenshi (Talk | contribs) 15:04, 23 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you so, so much for making that. It's been ~5 years since SS came out, so I think it's really welcome, regardless of initial size. I've actually been discussing it with the fellow staff members about it, and the consensus among us is that these templates would probably be better being removed from the page real estate across the board in favor of "styled links to the listings pages", while they are repurposed for the Inventory page. That decision is certainly not finalized, but I hope you understand and sympathize with that. Let me know how you feel, though. Having put so much work into it, I think you definitely deserve a good say in it.
 * And I will definitely review the other two templates. I'll let you know if I find anything off! 17:42, 25 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that. I don't mind any decision you all decide on really, and I think the idea makes sense, since it does take a lot of space and has a lot of things in it. One thing I think would be cool is if there's a link to show (load) a navigation template only if they want to (in a "fill the screen, click out or escape to close" way). Would that need an iframe? I don't know, but the idea seems cool, even if lacking in any point or justifiable reason in implementing it.
 * I was thinking of adding the dowsing and adventure pouch items to the template but it seems to be getting a bit to complex at that point in time. I haven't figured out a way to sort out the dowsing items (and how/when they are activated so I can screenshot them), though I figured out a reasonable arrangement for the adventure pouch that doesn't even have any duplicates (except for the physical duplicates of medallions).
 * Regarding moving them to Inventory, that sounds like a good opportunity to put some details or explanations of each inventory system for each game.
 * -- KokoroSenshi (Talk | contribs) 14:09, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Hyrule Warriors Weapon placement
A Couple of Questions;
 * I know the ones that are in Red text, you want them to be in Info deplay pages of their own. But what about the ones that already lead to a page? Reason im asking is because when I was putting the Stats info for weapons (e.g. Trident, Fire Rod, etc) u changed them back. For I believe they must require their stat info (e.g: Sheik's Goddess Harp and King Daphnes Sail). Am I allowed to put back the Weapon strength stats for the ones that already lead to a link, or are you planning to put a personal new page for each of them?
 * Fi's Goddess Sword link leads to Fi's character profile while you have Fi and the Goddess Sword as two different pages, which is confusing. Please clarify to me that the info u want to give Fi's Weapon is about the Weapon or the Character?


 * I did no such to either Trident or the Fire Rod page. There's no issue here.
 * Fi's Weapons should be on the Goddess Blade page. 18:49, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Then why is the link's leading the viewers to Fi's character profile?
 * I want using my edits on the Trident, Fire Rod as examples but I saw my similiar edits on Sheik's harp was changed back.


 * By the time you asked that, it wasn't. It's now as it should be.
 * Your edit to Goddess's Harp was in an inappropriate location. The appropriate location is Harp. All the Weapons belong on a page under their class name, as seen here. As you can see, "Goddess's Harp" is only a subset of the Harp, thus it was undone.
 * Again, sign your talk page messages with four tildes. There is a box below the edit field containing shortcuts for code, which includes the four tildes that you can simply click if you need. 19:07, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for clearing that up.
 * Very well then so a Weapon page has to be made for Sheik's Harp then? And what about others that lead to existing pages such as Wizzro's ring, Twili Midna's Mirror, Young Link's Fierce Deity Mask Weapons, Linkle's Crossbow, Toon Link's Hero Sword, and King Daphnes Sail? Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 19:21, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The general rule is they go on the page titled after the Weapon class. If it overlaps with previous pages, it goes under a HW section. 19:23, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for Clearing that up then. I'll continue make a Weapon page for the ones that dont exist yet then. Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 19:27, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Of note, Twili Midna's Weapon, the Mirror, is a bit of a tricky one, so I would say to just leave that to me. 19:32, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Understood Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 19:36, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Sorry
Ugh, I try to avoid using Eldin Caves for the Dark great Fairy and wanted to use something with a little more Lighting in the background. But whatever, glad I made u guys post something that was needed Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 02:01, 2 May 2016 (UTC)


 * It was a quick fix, as an image of greater quality (and proper name) was needed. I can see about replacing it, but for now, a full model rip would serve better than any screenshot could. Also I really do not appreciate the implication of have "made [us] guys post something". 02:03, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Image Request
We need a VS Big Blin (Ruffian) and VS Stone Blin icons cuz on Skills for Hyrule Warriors Legends, the "VS Soldier" skill, the game says they are good against them as well. Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 02:28, 7 May 2016 (UTC)


 * We do, but we among the staff don't presently rip files from games directly. We more often use The Spriters Resource, as you can see in the FileInfo template's source attribution on each file. I'll see what we can do, but it's easier said than done. 03:42, 7 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Very well. I gave you what is needed on Skills as well, so Good luck. Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 04:27, 7 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I uploaded a pic of Tael and Tatl playing at Skull Kid's Victory animation for Hyrule Warriors for the Tatl and Tael's galleries for the name keep f***ing up on me. can u reupload it for me plz?  Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 20:48, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * You can move the image yourself by going into the "More" tab on top of the page and then clicking "Move". By the way, if you took the image yourself, you can use the Original Source template as the source of the image. 22:19, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

The Videos
Those were Official gameplay videos that were shown before Skyward Sword was released Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 02:35, 8 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The Lizalfos video has a GameXplain watermark overlayed on top (and was a stolen repost) and the Moblin one has a TheBitBlock pre-roll before it, which would indicate that they likely had review copies. There's ten reasons to one as for why it's not official.
 * And even if they were, they're not good videos (unprofessional by Nintendo standards) and really kind of useless. Having been released prior to the public launch is not an indicator of officiality. 02:51, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

The Adventure mode Maps
Question, shouldn't those Map table be posted on the Adventure mode page? Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 16:33, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * No, for multiple reasons.


 * 1) They're still very much in progress and far from finished.
 * 2) They're not intended to be used in their current form. This is more a guide for editors, because...
 * 3) A template using an image of the map will be used instead. This is in progress right now, but it will be completed at my soonest convenience.
 * It's going to take some time, but the end product I make will be worth it. 16:39, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Question two, shouldnt the Adventure mode map new pic be the Master Quest map as well since they are the same?  Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 23:09, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The Master Quest Map has red zigzag patterns as opposed to the Adventure Map's black and white, so they are not entirely identical. For the sake of accuracy, we will use two different, but similar images. 23:19, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Wanna let you know that I found a Youtuber that has played and recorded every Adventure mode map square gameplay and u can see clearing on each one of characters using other character's weapons. Looks up AuraChannelerChris. Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 00:28, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Can't upload image
When Im trying to upload an image from Miiverse for one of the galleries it says the following: Fatal error: Call to undefined function wfishiphop in /var/www/zeldawiki.org/extensions/ExtensionsByAbdullah/CustomUploadFields/SpecialUploadModified.php on line 813 Can you fix it? Thanks! Princess Peach (talk) 01:00, 17 May 2016 (UTC)


 * We're aware of the problem and we're trying to fix it ASAP. Sorry for the inconvenience, but we hope to get it up soon. 01:13, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

A PROBLEM!!!
Tony! Someone has been re-editing away all the Info on pages as well as Putting in bad pages! Someone by the name "Zelda Wiki on Wheels"  Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 18:54, 18 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you, but staff regularly monitor the recent changes, especially edits by new users, so it's not necessary to report vandalism. 04:11, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Third-Party Media
Regarding your reason for moving this image from the Toon Link page, friendly reminder: the entirety of Hyrule Warriors is developed by a 3rd Party. The games are made by KoeiTecmo, Nintendo does not have any hand in development outside of Aonuma monitoring development. If the rule for this sort of thing is keeping 3rd party content to strictly to this page then that means everything regarding HW/L should be removed from all the pages they're on and moved there. I'm not trying to complain or start a fight, I'm just saying by your reasoning for removing that image from the Toon Link gallery, that is what would need to be done. Maybe a change in rules regarding 3rd Party content should be made into consideration. Ixbran (talk) 04:13, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * You're using the wrong parameters to justify your argument, as the general rule is if it's developed with Zelda in mind as a core feature, it deserves mainspace coverage. Hyrule Warriors is, Monster Hunter is not.
 * I'm not opposed to attempting to re-establish how we handle coverage on Nintendo-published content that contains Zelda material, but we will definitely need more people to consider the ramifications, and such discussion would need to take place on our forum board . 08:40, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

HWL Materials
Are you going to add slots on the material table for the Hyrule Warriors Legends materials? I listed them all in the discussion page for Materials. --Bobb11881 (talk) 18:48, 29 May 2016 (UTC)


 * It's in my schedule to complete, but I have more pressing matters to finish first. Please have patience. 21:34, 29 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Won't Stone Blins fall under the same category as Big Blins? Cuz it seems they are just a Bigger and more armored version of Big Blins and Ruffins Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 14:34, 30 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what "category" you're referring to, but I imagine it as another Moblin/Shield Moblin relationship. 20:14, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Hyrule Warriors other Weapon users
Ive finished analyzing each square as best as I could on all the DLC maps to see which character was using which weapon for u all. If u wish to double check it all, feel free to let me know. Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 01:02, 30 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I'm thinking we might make them into tables rather than bullet lists to avoid redundancy, but nice work nonetheless. 01:48, 30 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I may wanna help u make them into tables but questions, Are u still keeping it under Trivia? Or are u putting them under a new Title? Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 22:39, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Trivia should suffice. Here's what I'm thinking of for a base:


 * And here's it in action:


 * I would order the Warriors by their in-game order. 08:47, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Opinions on a project
So I've started working on something I've been thinking of doing for a while now, a User WIP of a page listing for the various different character portraits in the HW series. Having an opinion on it, as well as getting it up to wiki standard so it can be a mainstay page, could be appreciated. If you have any suggestions please put it here. Ixbran (talk) 04:35, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

We pronounce Vaati the same!
I pronouce it "Vah-Tee" as well! :D What a coincidence! It's probably correct, but as for Kakariko Village, I pronounce that "Kah-ka-reh-ko". It's probably "Ka-car-riko", but it's like, I always pronounce it like I did before, even once I find out it's the incorrect pronounciation. Are you like that? TrueZelda3 (talk) 19:16, 9 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Considering that Kakariko is the same in English as in Japanese, I would think that the closest reasonable pronunciation would be how it's pronounced in Japanese, which would be roughly . Normally after finding out the proper pronunciation, I switch to it. Kind of begrudgingly in the case of Fi. 21:13, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Inter wiki links missing?
Hello, I was wondering if you could add inter wiki links to Zeldapendium on the main page and recentchanges. --Raltseye (talk) 23:27, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


 * I'll look into it. 23:51, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Are you working on subdividing the items page aswell?
I was told on the Items page on BotW that you were, but I can't find anything in your sandbox as stated. Should I continue doing what I'm doing?


 * Hey, sorry I didn't respond sooner. Traveling to and from Los Angeles is a pain, so I've been doing things minimally.
 * I'm going to be splitting the pages as they should be, so what I would recommend is to keep collecting information and if it clashes with what I have, just make note of it in the talk page. Are you OK to do that? 08:43, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

BotW Corrections
Hi Tony. Could you please add the correct prefix and suffix to  and, please? Two I slipped up on early on when I was getting used to correct format for naming. Many thanks. Don't know if there's a better way to contact you about slip ups like these. Dekusian


 * Done! 22:00, 19 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I just noticed there's one more but that's the last of them, I swear! Thanks again. Dekusian


 * Got it. Also, you should sign your signature with four tildes ( ~ ). 22:38, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Monolithic vs Overview + Detailed Sub-articles
This is just a quick question on which is the preferred method since the page I'm wondering about still fits within the size limitation, but will one day by it's very design exceed that limit. In such a case should a page contain all the data for every game even though the data within the different tables has little to no bearing on any other table, or should the main page have an overview of the subject and the use of the subject within each game listed?

One example to give this question context would be the Material page. Should this page contain every material used with in every game, or should it give an overview of how materials were used in each game and provide links to pages with further details and data tables for each game? Or should pages like this be more like the Food page which provides a brief overview and then have pages like Food in Breath of the Wild to supplement the information and supply data tables that are unique to the game? Emerald (talk) 05:25, 22 June 2016 (UTC)


 * What is this size limitation that you're referring to? What I've told my team is that unless it's becoming measurably problematic to have the listings all on the same page, they belong on the Material page all the same. Basically we should err on being monolithic more than making people chase a listing down.
 * "Food in Breath of the Wild" shouldn't be an article on its own. It should simply be on the Food article, and it's a bad frame of reference because it was constructed by people who simply don't know what is appropriate. Were we to split the Material listings, it would be "Material (Subtitle)" over "Materials in Subtitle". 05:54, 22 June 2016 (UTC)


 * There is actually a size limit listed in the Zelda_Wiki:Quality_Standards. Those pages were picked out as examples for content not naming. Emerald (talk) 06:00, 22 June 2016 (UTC)


 * The standards are presently being rewritten, so I can't guarantee that that stipulation will remain the same. I understand that people have reported 32kb as being where mobile loading tends to get iffy. The Material page loads well enough on my lackluster phone, so I think we may need to revise that in particular. We'll look into it.
 * Regardless of framing the discussion about size over name, you still created a page with an unfavorable title and it's still a relevant matter to the suggestion of splitting. 06:23, 22 June 2016 (UTC)


 * The 32kb is actually historical on that page and the one listed to use is actually 96kb. And the questions were to determine which format was correct. I will freely admit to an unfavorable title now knowing your preference, but "Invalid subject: Unnecessary split." doesn't seem to indicate title, so I was just trying to figure out the whole monolithic vs not thing after having seen both. Thank you for clearing the matter up. Emerald (talk) 06:42, 22 June 2016 (UTC)