Talk:Deku Scrub Trio

Name
Is this title legit or conjectural? Could we get a source? Also, do they really count as a mini boss? I mean they don't even get dramatic music... X) 03:48, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it is conjectural (they are called "Triplet of Deku Scrubs" in Japanese). They can be very hard to beat because at this point the player is not necessarily familiar with the game's mechanics and Link has only three hearts. Also a hint is given to defeat them (which would be unusual for a common enemy). Jeangabin 11:50, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Miniboss
I don't believe this should be counted as miniboss. Rather, I think it's just that the Deku Tree does not contain a miniboss, so this is rather just a puzzle for beginning players. 13:25, 18 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree with Pakkun. It's a puzzle like any other. Raxit 23:49, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I think that the actual miniboss of the Deku tree is the one Link found earlier in the dungeon. Link is trapped with it, it has to be defeated in order to continue and once Link defeates it grants acces to the dungeon item. Also it doesn't appear again and it's not in any other place. SilverArcher 11:54, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * But you find many dekus all over the place anyway, including on the path through the pyramid to the forest temple as an adult, and all over the kokiri forest. Also, it seems a bit weak to be a boss of any kind. Raxit 20:35, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I disagree with you, SilverArcher. For one, we've used the standard that minibosses use a special theme to indicate their status. I also highly doubt they would throw a "miniboss" in on a beginning player so early. Honestly, the Deku Scrub works just like a regular enemy. Link becomes trapped multiple times in rooms with enemies, and these are unofficially referred to as "kill rooms" where the player needs to kill all the enemies to advance. One room in the Fire Temple comes to mind that contains Torch Slugs and Fire Keese. I would hardly consider that a miniboss. 20:32, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Hmm... I'm on the fence here. How do we define "miniboss?" Is it a unique enemy like Dark Link, or Bigocto? Or is it just a slightly more difficult opponent than you normally face in the dungeon, like the Lizalfos pair in Dodongo's Cavern? Or perhaps it's both? In my opinion, I think we're a little overzealous with labeling things as minibosses. The only thing we should really count as a miniboss is something that is fairly unique and/or rare (ex: bigocto, Dark Link, Flare Dancer, Iron Knuckle). For example, I believe we have the Lizalfos pair listed as Dodongo's Cavern's miniboss, yet I don't find this appropriate considering the abundance of them in the game. They aren't rare/unique enemies. Likewise, I don't see the merit in listing Stalfos as one of the minibosses of the Forest Temple for the same reason. They aren't rare enemies; they appear many times throughout the game. But this argument has bigger implications than just for this article, so to narrow it down in this case: No, I do not believe that the Deku Scrub qualifies as a miniboss due to the abundance of them in the game. 19:32, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I think it's rather simple: minibosses are indicated by the music that plays when fighting them.
 * To take the indication in our own hands by basing how common they are sounds like a bad idea to me; many of these recurring enemies appear for the first time as minibosses. Whether they appear later is simply a design choice on the part of the developers. Link usually encounters these enemies for the first time as a major challenge. They then appear later on as a smaller challenge because Link has the know-how to defeat them at that point. A Flare Dancer reappears in the Fire Temple, but it initially acts as the miniboss. 20:45, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Gonna agree with Pakkun. No music, no mini-boss. I can't think of a mini-boss without boss music. I'm sure there might be some somewhere that breaks the rule, but these guys... Navi doesn't call them anything different. Deku Scrub Trio isn't an official name as far as I'm aware. The only thing that makes them special is that there is a puzzle to how to beat them, which is true for regular enemies in certain rooms in other games too. The puzzle is similar to the Pol's Voice, Stalfos and Keese puzzle in Link's Awakening, for example. Not only that, but you're not even locked into the room or anything. We should probably just merge them in with the main Deku Scrub page. 22:21, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Merging sounds like a good idea to me. We shouldn't be using fanon names if we can help it. 22:40, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree. No miniboss music, not a miniboss unless we have significant reason to believe it is an exception. I think merging this into Deku Scrub would be best, as this trio doesn't seem particularly notable. -- Snorlax Monster  07:52, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Fizzle just blew my mind. I never thought of those two in comparison. So yeah, that pretty much settles things... I vote in favor of a merge. 10:36, 25 March 2013 (UTC)