Zelda Wiki talk:Image Requests

New Policy
I am just informing everyone that the policy has changed and we've decided to allow everyone to edit images, seeing as there aren't too many applications posted, and that all those who did have good potential. We have alot of images to go through, and these applications will only make the process more difficult than it needs to be, so we want to thank all of you for being patient. 20:16, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * lol You finally figured that out. Glad to know. Thanks for the update, Steve. 01:15, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Need Help
I think I can give a hand with this. So far I have worked with Tetra. There are so many other things that I don't know how to edit properly on the wiki, like deleting the old images. Tip for anybody who wants to start helping, save on PNG instead of gif for transparency. The edges are much sharper, and so it's original quality is kept better. If you have a request, please let me know.Eximius 11:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

So yea, it gives me error each time I try to replace with PNG. So I'll need help on deleting images. Thanks.Eximius 11:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Eximus. Firstly, deleting old images is something that only administrators can do. If there is an image you believe should be deleted you need to place the template on the page, and it will be appropriately dealt with. It is already a wiki quality standard for transparent files to be in .png format, over .gif. I get the feeling you need to have a read of the details at the top of the Image Requests Page so you understand exactly what you can and can't do with image requests.


 * With your last line, you cannot replace a file with a new version that is of a different file extension. You must upload it as a new file, redirect all of the pages from the old image to the new image, and then request the old file to be deleted. Again, you need to have a read of the information on the image requests page to see how exactly Image Requests work at Zelda Wiki.org. You will need to apply (See above) if you wish to do any image editing other than screenshot cropping.


 * Having a look at that Tetra image that you worked on. It is of great quality, however you are not an approved image editor, so you shouldn't be doing transparencies. Your skills appear to be good, so if you wish, please apply to become an image editor above. Thanks. 23:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The Adventure of Link Spells
I was wondering if someone could grab the spell images from this manual (except the Reflect and Thunder ones) and add transparency to them so that they could look somewhat like. Thanks. :) Dany36 16:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Like this? :)  http://s633.photobucket.com/albums/uu53/daltonr6/Spells/ DaltonR6 03:09, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Holy crap, how did I NOT see this?! Thank you so much!! I'll upload them to the Wiki this instant. THANKS!! Dany36 17:01, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I have the game manual and can get much higher quality scans of the spells. I'll get to them soon and upload them. Mases 22:07, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Capitalized File Extensions
Is there way we can simply not allow files with capitalized extensions to be uploaded? It seems like this would get rid of the problem. 22:51, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Also on the same subject - what's the easiest way of correcting this? As a non-admin, I can re-upload the file with the correct extension, edit any pages that link to it, and then flag the old one for deletion. But would an admin have the power to rename the file and then do a global find-and-replace, replacing the old filename with the new? -- 17:31, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, an admin can completely rename files. And we also have a global replace text thing. So it's a rather quick process for us. 17:35, October 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * Also, anyone can move pages so you could just click on that and Move the content to a similar name but with the lowercase ext. This will, however create a redirect, so if that's done; we'll need to delete the redirect. 18:39, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Two items for consideration
Firstly, there are some images on this page that are not used anywhere on the wiki. Should these just be deleted, or should we assume that once they have been appropriately fixed, someone will want to use them?

Secondly, once the current backlog gets cleared, would it be worth implementing a new system for keeping track of image requests? Perhaps a tag that could be put on the image itself? This would reduce the number of edits required when fixing them. -- 08:19, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * It'd be nice if people could help us decide what to do with unused images. Or even find pages for them. :P But deleting unused images will be the norm. This is done routinely to keep the backlog down, and anyone can find the link to the unused images in the Special Pages tab.


 * I don't really see anything wrong with some of the images in the primary content, I kinda like the glow effect. It especially would be useful on the All-Night Mask image, I may create a new section here to dump those into(Trivial Changes-perhaps). For now I think the glow (or not having it) is more like a personal preference than an actual policy plank. To me it's still better than the all white space and in some cases would be useful. 18:39, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with you about the All-Night Mask image - it looks a bit meaningless on a dark background in its current state. I've put a lot of images into the list because they aren't actually transparent - they just have a background colour that matches the site colour (I use a Firefox extension called Stylish to subtly change the site's background colour globally - this really makes the images with #1c3855 backgrounds pop out!). They're certainly not high-priority items, and I wouldn't object if they were removed from the list.


 * I've discovered a new method of doing transparency that works really well on images with decent black outlines (ex 1 ex 2). For other images (ex 3), I still feel like the glow effect gives a more elegant result. But it does say in the image guidelines that the white glow should be avoided, so maybe the policy needs looking at.


 * Incidentally, what did you mean by your comment "This would make a good image for templates" on File:Linkfairy.png? Either way, it's been done, so feel free to use it as you desire. 22:06, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I see what you mean, I admit I thought about cheating the transparency by just pouring the background color into the white space before :p But yeah, I was pointing out that the link&fairy image would be a nice template image. Lately we've been using Zelda specific images in notice templates rather than the standard MediaWiki tech symbols. I have a few in mind that I'd like such as Chu Jellies gathering for Template:Merge. 22:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It depends on what the goal is. If it's just to get the site, as it currently exists, to look good, then there's nothing wrong with cheating transparency by filling backgrounds with blue. But that then puts us in a dead end if we want to retain the option of changing the site's colour scheme at some point in the future. 09:32, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Ahh, I grouped all of the background transparencies back into one grouping. Apologies if that screws up how you were organizing things. I did it to keep the contents back to the original sections we wanted, and so casual editors don't have to waste time determining where exactly an image fits. All of them are to be done, so no need to divide them.


 * There are lots of unused files on the wiki, so assuming that some of the unused ones that need transparency aren't duplicates and aren't redundant, they are readily usable, and not necessarily just 'delete'.


 * Lastly, it isn't acceptable to do 'cheat transparencies', by making the backgrounds wiki color. Files like that need to remain on the list firstly, because as you say, this blue wiki skin is by no means permanent. Secondly, when the image is used in a template, like a userbox, the blue background will be noticeable. As the quality standards say, "Images, unless appropriate, should not have solid colors as their backgrounds, and should be uploaded with transparent backgrounds." Filling the background as blue would come under 'solid colors'. 06:24, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Ax, looks like Pete beat you to it on the Merge template with this awesome image ! 12:48, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Credit where it's due, it was his idea 13:37, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Formula for screenshot cropping
What's the policy on images such as File:Gabora.jpg? I've seen a lot of such images on the wiki and haven't approached them because it's not instantly obvious. Should we just crop the top and bottom to the extent of the black borders, taking out the life meter and half of the rupee meter, and leaving behind the remainder of the interface? Or should it be cropped a little tighter so that all user interface elements are removed? 07:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, there's nothing written up on it as far as policy goes, as it tends to be a case-by-case basis, and quite subjective. What I go by is this: if you can crop all of the interface away from the picture, without affecting the actual body content of the picture that is relevant to it, then crop out all of the interface. If cropping out all of the interface compromises the actual picture, than only crop as far as doesn't, or to to edge of the black borders, no matter what parts of the interface that leaves. In that specific File:Gabora.jpg image, it is fine to crop out the interface without affecting the image body significantly. 09:42, 4 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds logical. Thanks, Melch. 09:47, 4 November 2009 (UTC)