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*[[Talk:Link/Archive01|Archive 2005-2008]]
*[[Talk:Link/Archive02|Archive 2009-2010]]
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== Missing Titles ==
== Missing Titles ==
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[[User:Brosi90|Brosi90]] ([[User talk:Brosi90|talk]]) 11:18, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
[[User:Brosi90|Brosi90]] ([[User talk:Brosi90|talk]]) 11:18, 29 December 2016 (UTC)


:The issue with these titles you've provided is they are always used as euphemistic phrases, not in an actual titular context recognized by Zelda Wiki. These phrases are used consistently, though never by specially colored text or capitalized in-passage, so they are not legitimate titles. {{:User:Tony/sig}} 11:40, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
:The issue with these titles you've provided is they are always used as euphemistic phrases, not in an actual titular context recognized by Zelda Wiki. These phrases are used consistently, though never by specially colored text or capitalized in-passage, so they are not legitimate titles. {{:User:TriforceTony/sig}} 11:40, 29 December 2016 (UTC)


::Hey Toni,
::Hey Toni,
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:::The conditions for what constitutes a title are outlined above in what I said. If it matches either, then it is a title.
:::The conditions for what constitutes a title are outlined above in what I said. If it matches either, then it is a title.
:::The formatted text that I searched through didn't properly color it, so I just confirmed with a video. Thanks for pointing that out, it is valid for the article. {{:User:Tony/sig}} 18:39, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
:::The formatted text that I searched through didn't properly color it, so I just confirmed with a video. Thanks for pointing that out, it is valid for the article. {{:User:TriforceTony/sig}} 18:39, 29 December 2016 (UTC)


::::You're welcome.
::::You're welcome.
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:::::Because in this line she means SS Link - in the other source she mentioned the SS Manga Link [[User:Brosi90|Brosi90]] ([[User talk:Brosi90|talk]]) 13:09, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::Because in this line she means SS Link - in the other source she mentioned the SS Manga Link [[User:Brosi90|Brosi90]] ([[User talk:Brosi90|talk]]) 13:09, 12 January 2017 (UTC)


:''Skyward Sword'' makes no allusion to the Manga, so it is not incorrect. Whichever quote is used is a matter of preference, and there is no benefit of one over the other, so there's no real reason to change it. {{:User:Tony/sig}} 00:58, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
:''Skyward Sword'' makes no allusion to the Manga, so it is not incorrect. Whichever quote is used is a matter of preference, and there is no benefit of one over the other, so there's no real reason to change it. {{:User:TriforceTony/sig}} 00:58, 17 January 2017 (UTC)


:Oh well it does. in SS Zelda mentioned that the goddess gave her Sailcloth to her chosen hero.Anyway i am guessing that:
:Oh well it does. in SS Zelda mentioned that the goddess gave her Sailcloth to her chosen hero.Anyway i am guessing that:
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== Russian name ==
== Russian name ==


Could someone please remove the note on the Russian name for its usage as Breath of the Wild is going to be translated into the Russian language and that name is going to be used in it. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 20:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Could someone please remove the note on the Russian name for its usage as Breath of the Wild is going to be translated into the Russian language and that name is going to be used in it. --[[User:User-100061101|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:User-100061101|talk]]) 20:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


:The note doesn't mention BotW in the first place though, unless you're referring to something else I'm simply just missing. [[User:Gopherdude12|Gopherdude12]] ([[User talk:Gopherdude12|talk]]) 20:51, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
:The note doesn't mention BotW in the first place though, unless you're referring to something else I'm simply just missing. [[User:Madmoblin|Gopherdude12]] ([[User talk:Madmoblin|talk]]) 20:51, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


::Please provide a source that BotW is going to be released in Russian. {{:User:Midoro/sig}} 20:52, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
::Please provide a source that BotW is going to be released in Russian. {{:User:Midoro/sig}} 20:52, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
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::::The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is fully translated into Russian. This was announced by the producer of the game, Mr. Eiji Aonuma, in his opening speech for the Russian fans. #zelda
::::The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is fully translated into Russian. This was announced by the producer of the game, Mr. Eiji Aonuma, in his opening speech for the Russian fans. #zelda


:::Also the trailer is fully spoken in Russian. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 21:34, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
:::Also the trailer is fully spoken in Russian. --[[User:User-100061101|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:User-100061101|talk]]) 21:34, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
::::The Russian name is not the same as the English name as it is a transcription of the English name. Could someone please change this? --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 10:44, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
::::The Russian name is not the same as the English name as it is a transcription of the English name. Could someone please change this? --[[User:User-100061101|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:User-100061101|talk]]) 10:44, 21 January 2017 (UTC)


==FSA Intro Implies A Missing Entry?==
==FSA Intro Implies A Missing Entry?==
The English intro to FSA implies that the FSA incarnations of Link and Zelda fought Vaati at some point prior to the events of FSA.
The English intro to FSA implies that the FSA incarnations of Link and Zelda fought Vaati at some point prior to the events of FSA.


"''The wind sorcerer Vaati broke free from his prison and kidnapped Zelda, the princess of Hyrule.<br>Princess Zelda's childhood friend Link used the power of the Four Sword to defeat Vaati and seal him away once again.''"
"''The wind sorcerer Vaati broke free from his prison and kidnapped Zelda, the princess of Hyrule.<br/>Princess Zelda's childhood friend Link used the power of the Four Sword to defeat Vaati and seal him away once again.''"
<br>-'''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgcuVsjCt0M Source]'''
<br/>-'''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgcuVsjCt0M Source]'''


Does anyone have the Japanese script (preferably accompanied by translation) on hand to compare this with? For all we know, it could be referencing FS instead.
Does anyone have the Japanese script (preferably accompanied by translation) on hand to compare this with? For all we know, it could be referencing FS instead.
<br>-'''[[User:Mugenkagemaru|Mugen Kagemaru]]''' ([[User talk:Mugenkagemaru|talk]]) 00:24, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
<br/>-'''[[User:Mugenkagemaru|Mugen Kagemaru]]''' ([[User talk:Mugenkagemaru|talk]]) 00:24, 19 March 2017 (UTC)


:"Once again" doesn't necessarily mean it was done by the same iterations of Link and Zelda. This does take place after both FS and TMC, so him being sealed in FSA would be "once again" regardless. [[User:TriforceTony|TriforceTony]] ([[User talk:TriforceTony|talk]]) 03:41, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
:"Once again" doesn't necessarily mean it was done by the same iterations of Link and Zelda. This does take place after both FS and TMC, so him being sealed in FSA would be "once again" regardless. [[User:TriforceTony|TriforceTony]] ([[User talk:TriforceTony|talk]]) 03:41, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
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:The unofficial translation is pretty much useless to us, and the Hyrule Historia that was published removes that speculation. We are based on the American English canon, not the Japanese canon.
:The unofficial translation is pretty much useless to us, and the Hyrule Historia that was published removes that speculation. We are based on the American English canon, not the Japanese canon.
:Even if it's a temporary name, it's still our policy to note names in the lead sentence like we have. However, in this case it appears to be an ''alias'', so it can be moved elsewhere. If this issue should come up for the same reasons you've found however, they would likely remain in the lead sentence. [[User:TriforceTony|TriforceTony]] ([[User talk:TriforceTony|talk]]) 00:21, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
:Even if it's a temporary name, it's still our policy to note names in the lead sentence like we have. However, in this case it appears to be an ''alias'', so it can be moved elsewhere. If this issue should come up for the same reasons you've found however, they would likely remain in the lead sentence. [[User:TriforceTony|TriforceTony]] ([[User talk:TriforceTony|talk]]) 00:21, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
== Link is non-silent in Twilight Princess Manga ==
It's a common misconception that the only Links who have spoken dialogue are that in the cartoon and in the CDI games. In the manga adaptation of Twilight Princess, and only there as far as I know (while most other mangas have him not speak at all), Link is strangely non-silent, and he's shown to have a personality and speak like a normal character. I think it should be added in the Trivia section, since it's a one-time exception to a rule that happens in every game and manga. --[[User:Shin Minase|Shin Minase]] ([[User talk:Shin Minase|talk]]) 21:15, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
:Canonically, Link speaks in almost every media he's in, including the main series. This is not something we should note. [[User:MannedTooth|MannedTooth]] ([[User talk:MannedTooth|talk]]) 13:44, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
::But Twilight Princess's manga adaptation, the CDI games and the cartoon are the only times where Link's dialogue is actually shown. Aside from those three exceptions, Link's dialogue isn't shown to the player or completely chosen by the player. --[[User:Shin Minase|Shin Minase]] ([[User talk:Shin Minase|talk]]) 21:07, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
:::The article section on [[Link#Other Appearances|Other Appearances]] mentions that Link has dialogue in certain non-canon media. The [[Link#Characteristics|Characteristics]] highlights a couple canon instances where Link says actual words. [[User:PhantomCaleb|PhantomCaleb]] ([[User talk:PhantomCaleb|talk]]) 23:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
== Switching Link's Awakening and the Oracle games ==
On Link's history, can Link's Awakening and the Oracle games be switched? Having the Oracle games take place before Link's Awakening is outdated information, as the timeline was updated to have Link's Awakening be first over two years ago. The official website and encyclopedia reflect this, and the Links in these games aren't even the same, as the Princess Zelda from the Oracle games does not recognize Link. This issue is prevalent on other pages as well, including Zelda's. [[User:Rockguitarfan|Rockguitarfan]] ([[User talk:Rockguitarfan|talk]]) 23:35, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
== "There are many incarnations of Link, each possessing the spirit of the hero" ==
The doesn't state that every single Link possesses the spirit of the hero, it just says that Demise's curse will follow SS Link's reincarnations. The whole "all Links are reincarnations of SS Link" is just an unconfirmed fan interpretation, and one that is contradicted by the games in some instances, such as TP where the previous Link is still around as a ghost, or the fact that OoT Link left the adult timeline before dying, making it impossible for later Links in that timeline to be his reincarnations. Anyone opposed to me rewriting that line, if not removing it (the "spirit of the hero" concept is already mentioned in the SS section anyway)? [[User:ReddBird|ReddBird]] ([[User talk:ReddBird|talk]]) 05:47, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:I don't think it is confirmed that Link reincarnates. Even if Link reincarnates, the Links from TWW and TP possess a soul that is not shared with their predecessors. All Links have a special soul. Encyclopedia also states that the Links have the spirit of the hero. [[User:Zeldafan1982|Zeldafan1982]] ([[User talk:Zeldafan1982|talk]]) 14:59, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
::Ah, you're saying that possessing the spirit of the hero and being reincarnations are different things? Fair enough. [[User:ReddBird|ReddBird]] ([[User talk:ReddBird|talk]]) 23:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
== Manga ==
Since Link appears in almost every LoZ manga, (Oath of Riruto/Lilto being the only one I can think of where he doesn't,) should they be listed in the "Other Appearances" section? [[User:JumbledLimes|JumbledLimes]] ([[User talk:JumbledLimes|talk]]) 23:55, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
== Name ==
I heard somewhere that he was named because the game was originally supposed to have you collect computer chips and you were the one who would link them together.
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