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==Page Archived==
==Page Archived==
I archived the page, it's over 27K. None of the discussions on it were current. And mostly like the topics were wrapped up on the page. Also Archive page will be protected to prevent new posts to discussions. {{:User:Axiomist1875/sig}} 04:30, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I archived the page, it's over 27K. None of the discussions on it were current. And mostly like the topics were wrapped up on the page. Also Archive page will be protected to prevent new posts to discussions. {{:User:Axiomist1875@legacy41958496/sig}} 04:30, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


== Salt Water ==
== Salt Water ==
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Is it possible that Zora's name came from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vayots_Dzor Վայոց Ձոր], one of the provinces of Armenia? -- [[User:Ember Incubus|կրակ]] <sup><sup>([[User Talk:Ember Incubus|խոսել]])</sup></sup> -- 06:31, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible that Zora's name came from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vayots_Dzor Վայոց Ձոր], one of the provinces of Armenia? -- [[User:Ember Incubus|կրակ]] <sup><sup>([[User Talk:Ember Incubus|խոսել]])</sup></sup> -- 06:31, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:Probably not. The likelihood of that is about the same as the Zora's name coming from the book entitled ''Go Gator and Muddy the Water'', written by author Zora Neale Hurston. And I thought it was funny that you print screened that little multiple edit thing with Neo from my userpage. That was a joke too, btw =) {{:User:Cipriano555/sig}} 06:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:Probably not. The likelihood of that is about the same as the Zora's name coming from the book entitled ''Go Gator and Muddy the Water'', written by author Zora Neale Hurston. And I thought it was funny that you print screened that little multiple edit thing with Neo from my userpage. That was a joke too, btw =) {{:User:Cipriano555@legacy41957663/sig}} 06:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


== Bomb Ships ==
== Bomb Ships ==
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It's also possible that we distinguish them by using the term "Zora" for the monsters and "Zora Tribe" for the friendly variety, but this is probably a little awkward as well.
It's also possible that we distinguish them by using the term "Zora" for the monsters and "Zora Tribe" for the friendly variety, but this is probably a little awkward as well.


Also note that while not explicitly stated, there seems to be a direct connection between the two species of Zora implied in A Link Between Worlds, although this was also implied with King Zora in A Link to the Past. {{:User:Fizzle8094/sig}} 01:22, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Also note that while not explicitly stated, there seems to be a direct connection between the two species of Zora implied in A Link Between Worlds, although this was also implied with King Zora in A Link to the Past. {{:User:Fizzle8094@legacy41964097/sig}} 01:22, 4 December 2013 (UTC)


I think the River Zora should remain enemies until a new game, possibly one even throwing light on the subject, comes out. I'm not saying it's Nintendo's fault that they re-instated them in ALBW, but if they hadn't would we be having this convo? They were confirmed to be a feral offshoot or alternative species by the same moniker by Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks. Which, while I would dispute their canonocity over various topics (such as retconning the postman twice; from Rito to a rabbit with wings to a human),  this is not one I could bite on because Four Swords Adventures was already discriminating between Blue Zora and the green "monsters" that were established zora before. Ones I would readily call Geozards had ALBW not entered the equation.
I think the River Zora should remain enemies until a new game, possibly one even throwing light on the subject, comes out. I'm not saying it's Nintendo's fault that they re-instated them in ALBW, but if they hadn't would we be having this convo? They were confirmed to be a feral offshoot or alternative species by the same moniker by Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks. Which, while I would dispute their canonocity over various topics (such as retconning the postman twice; from Rito to a rabbit with wings to a human),  this is not one I could bite on because Four Swords Adventures was already discriminating between Blue Zora and the green "monsters" that were established zora before. Ones I would readily call Geozards had ALBW not entered the equation.
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:Uh, I'm not sure I follow. And to be honest I've wanted to do this for awhile, it's nothing to do with ALBW, that just happens to help my cause since it shows River Zoras are still just as relevant as the standard variety. River Zoras are not called River Zoras in most games, they're just called Zoras. They're not really a feral offshoot so much as a different interpretation of the same being. They're also much more common in the series as a whole. I'm simply arguing that both Zoras get equal status, because right now since the Zora page covers just Sea Zoras, it's giving them priority.
:Uh, I'm not sure I follow. And to be honest I've wanted to do this for awhile, it's nothing to do with ALBW, that just happens to help my cause since it shows River Zoras are still just as relevant as the standard variety. River Zoras are not called River Zoras in most games, they're just called Zoras. They're not really a feral offshoot so much as a different interpretation of the same being. They're also much more common in the series as a whole. I'm simply arguing that both Zoras get equal status, because right now since the Zora page covers just Sea Zoras, it's giving them priority.
:As for Geozards, they're arguably a different thing altogether, despite their similarity to Zoras I'm not sure if they're genuinely related to them.
:As for Geozards, they're arguably a different thing altogether, despite their similarity to Zoras I'm not sure if they're genuinely related to them.
:Not sure what the Postman has to do with anything either. {{:User:Fizzle8094/sig}} 13:03, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
:Not sure what the Postman has to do with anything either. {{:User:Fizzle8094@legacy41964097/sig}} 13:03, 4 December 2013 (UTC)


It is possible, even probable I was just wrong. I assumed that the Geozards were in fact Zora Warriors; but checking the source for that as
It is possible, even probable I was just wrong. I assumed that the Geozards were in fact Zora Warriors; but checking the source for that as
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All in favor?
All in favor?
[[User:Servantofgod|Servantofgod]] ([[User talk:Servantofgod|talk]]) 22:05, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
[[User:Servantofgod|Servantofgod]] ([[User talk:Servantofgod|talk]]) 22:05, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, just to confirm that they have a different name in Japan, and while they were called Zora Warriors in the Phantom Hourglass guide, they were renamed to Geozard in the Spirit Tracks guide to correct this misleading localization. Anyway, I'll probably move this page to Sea Zora soon unless someone majorly objects to the idea, and replace Zora with a disambiguation page. {{:User:Fizzle8094/sig}} 22:35, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, just to confirm that they have a different name in Japan, and while they were called Zora Warriors in the Phantom Hourglass guide, they were renamed to Geozard in the Spirit Tracks guide to correct this misleading localization. Anyway, I'll probably move this page to Sea Zora soon unless someone majorly objects to the idea, and replace Zora with a disambiguation page. {{:User:Fizzle8094@legacy41964097/sig}} 22:35, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
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