Talk:Hyrule

Locations and Landmarks

Hey guys, I have a question to put to some of you: As the article enters its final stages, we are approaching some sections that could be as big or small as we choose. However, what those who are working on the article, along with myself, need to know is just what locations and landmarks would you like us to include? Do you want only the most important places and recurring locations, or would you like a section on each major section of Hyrule that is featured? What I am concerned about is that, just as Matt said yesterday, that the size of the article is going to balloon out of control without some guidelines of what you would like to see in the article. We can make it however you like, but we need to know just what locations and landmarks you'd like us to include. The games by appearances are complete, and if we can at all make them smaller we will, but we've already cut those down pretty good for size purposes. So if some of you could offer your input on what or how many locations and landmarks you'd like us to include and how in-depth you'd like us to go into descriptions of each, it'd be a great help for those of us working on the article. Thanks! Link87 15:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I think the descriptions of the places should be trimmed down a bit, as we have the main articles for those places. However, I think that most of the similar locations should be mentioned in the same section. e.g. Mount Crenel and Death Mountain would go in the same section, as would Desert of Mystery and Gerudo Valley.Ganondorfdude11 16:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Splitting the page

The page is way too long for most web browsers to handle. I get errors a lot just by trying to edit it. Maybe we can do something like make sub-pages for each major section like moving the Appearances section to its own page, and the Locations section when it's done. Ganondorfdude11 23:13, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Splitting all the sections into subpages, then including the subpages back on the front page will make things a lot easier. Less errors and easier to spot mistakes. Because then you'd only be editing small pages at a time. And any changes you make to the subpages would show on the front page. Any pages included on it will be listed at the bottom of the edit view of the page. Just ask for help with this if any help is needed. We'll watch and be on standby to help either way.User:Matt/sig 23:21, August 27, 2009 (UTC)

Okay, what's the way to go about doing this? Ganondorfdude11 23:24, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Good thinking, I'll make some cuts to the page. Mainly to appease the rest of the staff, but it has benefits to the two of you as well. It's too much info to contain all in one place, and despite the well done writing, it's likely to turn off readers. The races section can be summarized SIGNIFICANTLY and link to a page aptly titled, oh idk "Hyruleans" where the expansion can go berserk. But if the two of you are working all the way down here, I'll focus on the upper portions of the article. This will be later tonight, when I'm less distracted. User:Axiomist/sig 23:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

How do you create a subpage?Ganondorfdude11 23:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I think the main thing we should do is move the Appearances by Game section to its own page. How do you do that? Ganondorfdude11 05:14, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

It can be included back in the page by placing {{:Hyrule/Appearances by Game‎}} where you want the section to be. That way you can have all the content on the page, without the editing glitches.User:Matt/sig 06:06, August 28, 2009 (UTC)

That's an excellent idea Matt, and I'd like to say good job Ganondorfdude11, I am very pleased with how things have been rearranged and trimmed without compromising the integrity of the article. I will will be continuing writing the sections for Locations and Landmarks, but how in depth would you like me to go with them as far as which ones to include??? For example, Death Mountain returns MANY times and is a definite yes to be included, but what about such places as the Parapa Desert that only appear once???

I also have another question: the pictures of Hyrule. I know we still have them in the subpage of the article for the Appearances by Game section, but should we include those pictures on the main page of the article as well in the gallery?? I don't care one way or the other, but seeing that we have the leftover pictures down in the gallery, I didn't know if some of you wanted to include those pictures on the main article page in the gallery or not. What are some of your feelings in regards to this?? Link87 16:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Galleries are usually very integral, I would think either removing from the sections, or preferably another page for it. (like the Link and Zelda articles)User:Steven/sig 16:34, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, can you clarify a bit for me? So you would like to remove the pictures from the sections and the gallery and make a different subpage for it?? I just want to be sure I understand correctly. Link87 18:17, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I could see making a subpage for it. Link and Ganon have them. This article needs one, too. I say keep the maps on the Appearances page, they go well with the description of how the geography changes from game to game. Ganondorfdude11 20:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Protected Page

I have protected the page because there has been too much drama involving it. The time has been set as indefinite, so who knows when it will be unprotected? However, for now, it stays protected. Go work on something else. --Xizor 05:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I beg your pardon Xizor, but we're nearly done with the page, and we've come to agreement on what we are to do with it. Once it's completed, we planned to submit it to the council of admins for their critique and for them to let us know what they would like to keep or not keep. I think it would be most wise for you to reconsider your decision and unlock the page so we can finish it. We're very close to it now as it is. I don't see your reasoning for locking it, it's only keeping us from finishing the project. And since we're this close, I think you'd like the end result far better if you would let us finish the last section on races and let us get the references into the page. That's really all we have left to do. Link87 14:28, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Christopher, without wishing to sound patronising, I'd like to thank you for responding so calmly and reasonably. I must say though, that I can understand Xizor's frustration with the upheaval and stress that this project has resulted in. Apart from the many lengthy discussions and disagreements surrounding this, I see that there have been 364 individual edits to this page over the course of the past six weeks; excessive by anyone's standards. I think I speak for everyone when I say I'm sick of the sight of it in the Recent Changes, and just want this interminable project to be finally over! My suggestion to you would be this; we'll leave the page protected for now. You should copy the current contents into a text document on your computer, and make all of the changes you propose for the "final" version. Then let us know here on the talk page, and it can be unprotected again so you can finish the work. I hope that's a compromise that works for everyone, and allows us to reach a conclusion. User:Adam/sig 17:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)