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:But by "associations" we mean thse worldy things most commonly associated with the the particular diety in the seires. Taking Din, for example; In OOT, the magic that bears her name is Din's '''Fire'''; In tWW, Din's Pearl is the reward for completing the "'''Fire''' Temple"; and in TP, the principle dungeon of Eldin is, again, the '''Fire''' dungeon. In this mannor, each diety is consistently associated with a single element, a single color, a number of races, etc. -[[user:mmmmm PIE|PIE]]
:But by "associations" we mean thse worldy things most commonly associated with the the particular diety in the seires. Taking Din, for example; In OOT, the magic that bears her name is Din's '''Fire'''; In tWW, Din's Pearl is the reward for completing the "'''Fire''' Temple"; and in TP, the principle dungeon of Eldin is, again, the '''Fire''' dungeon. In this mannor, each diety is consistently associated with a single element, a single color, a number of races, etc. -[[user:mmmmm PIE|PIE]]
== Multiple Timeline Theory Refute ==
I don't understand why you can be so presumptious about the Multiple Timeline Theory.  Nothing ever "proves" that there are two timelines; in fact, there very well may not be.  "The Legend of Tingle", an Easter Egg in tWW, includes information from Majora's Mask, telling the story (presumably about "Tingle's Freshly-picked Rose-colored Rupee Land") of how Tingle went from being a 35yr old man who wants to be a fairy and sells maps in Termina to being a true fairy and having his own island and services in The Wind Waker. 
If there were multiple timelines, then Tingle's entire backstory would be a plot hole.  Just because a Nintendo official says that there are multiple timelines doesn't mean there are.  Nintendo once stated that Link's Awakening happens in the middle of The Adventure of Link, as he's crossing the sea; while popular belief is that it is the sequel to Triforce of the Gods (in fact, many reference point to that, see [[Oracle Confusion]]). 
At another point, Nintendo officials have said that first Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask occur; then Twilight Princess occurs a couple hundred years later, then the flood a couple hundred years after that, then The Wind Waker and The Phantom Hourglass a couple hundred years after that.  In addition, the Twili are referenced in the Earth Temple in The Wind Waker; if there was no memory of the Twili's invasion, then the Temple wouldn't have included a giant statue of a Twilit Monster. 
In addition, Ganondorf's sealing in the Twilight Realm is the alternate story to Ganondorf's sealing in the Evil Realm at the end of Ocarina of Time.  He still had to be hunted down after Link told everyone about what Ganondorf was planing to do, and then the Sage spirits sealed him away.  These spirits are <i>not</i> proof that there are two continuous timelines; nor are the pictures of the alternate timeline Sages in the Master Sword chamber of Hyrule Castle in tWW.  The Sages as seen in Twilight Princess could mearly be the phantoms of the spirits that once existed alongside Rauru in the ancient past.  Also, the Sages of Ocarina of Time must return at somepoint; even if they are not awakened by the end of Ocarina of Time's child timeline, they still hold the power of the Sages within them, and may reappear if Nintendo ever returns back to finish the tale of the Hero of Time (he still hasn't found Navi yet, even though that was his entire motivation in MM - at least until he found out about the impending Apocalypse).

Revision as of 21:28, 23 April 2007

the elemental association and most associations concerning the three godesses are actually interchangeable. allow me to explain. though the three are not the same individual, you can say somthing about one, it can just as easily be said about others.

Kingfisher 07:30, 11 January 2007 (CST)

But by "associations" we mean thse worldy things most commonly associated with the the particular diety in the seires. Taking Din, for example; In OOT, the magic that bears her name is Din's Fire; In tWW, Din's Pearl is the reward for completing the "Fire Temple"; and in TP, the principle dungeon of Eldin is, again, the Fire dungeon. In this mannor, each diety is consistently associated with a single element, a single color, a number of races, etc. -PIE

Multiple Timeline Theory Refute

I don't understand why you can be so presumptious about the Multiple Timeline Theory. Nothing ever "proves" that there are two timelines; in fact, there very well may not be. "The Legend of Tingle", an Easter Egg in tWW, includes information from Majora's Mask, telling the story (presumably about "Tingle's Freshly-picked Rose-colored Rupee Land") of how Tingle went from being a 35yr old man who wants to be a fairy and sells maps in Termina to being a true fairy and having his own island and services in The Wind Waker.

If there were multiple timelines, then Tingle's entire backstory would be a plot hole. Just because a Nintendo official says that there are multiple timelines doesn't mean there are. Nintendo once stated that Link's Awakening happens in the middle of The Adventure of Link, as he's crossing the sea; while popular belief is that it is the sequel to Triforce of the Gods (in fact, many reference point to that, see Oracle Confusion).

At another point, Nintendo officials have said that first Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask occur; then Twilight Princess occurs a couple hundred years later, then the flood a couple hundred years after that, then The Wind Waker and The Phantom Hourglass a couple hundred years after that. In addition, the Twili are referenced in the Earth Temple in The Wind Waker; if there was no memory of the Twili's invasion, then the Temple wouldn't have included a giant statue of a Twilit Monster.

In addition, Ganondorf's sealing in the Twilight Realm is the alternate story to Ganondorf's sealing in the Evil Realm at the end of Ocarina of Time. He still had to be hunted down after Link told everyone about what Ganondorf was planing to do, and then the Sage spirits sealed him away. These spirits are not proof that there are two continuous timelines; nor are the pictures of the alternate timeline Sages in the Master Sword chamber of Hyrule Castle in tWW. The Sages as seen in Twilight Princess could mearly be the phantoms of the spirits that once existed alongside Rauru in the ancient past. Also, the Sages of Ocarina of Time must return at somepoint; even if they are not awakened by the end of Ocarina of Time's child timeline, they still hold the power of the Sages within them, and may reappear if Nintendo ever returns back to finish the tale of the Hero of Time (he still hasn't found Navi yet, even though that was his entire motivation in MM - at least until he found out about the impending Apocalypse).