Anonymous

Talk:Princess Hilda: Difference between revisions

From Zelda Wiki, the Zelda encyclopedia
Line 60: Line 60:
:::::That's what I'm trying to say, a Minor Anatagonist, of course revealing some things about a character is relevent, you have to have *Information* about a said character to classify them, at first, you where saying that Hilda is a *Major Antagonist*, but now your saying that she's a *Minor Antagonist* by ZWS.  But the thing about Bellum and Malladus is that they have backstories and legends about them, indicating they took place and are going to take place against the Protagonist as the mains and that catigory never turned up in my search, even with the quotes added to "Major Antagonist", it wasn't included in my results.  Hilda is a *Type* of Antagonist, but she isn't purely one, I agree that by ZWS, she is a Minor Antagonist.  Lets give others a chance to pin in with their insights also.  --[[User:Vaati The Wind Demon|Vaati The Wind Demon]] ([[User talk:Vaati The Wind Demon|talk]]) 02:36, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
:::::That's what I'm trying to say, a Minor Anatagonist, of course revealing some things about a character is relevent, you have to have *Information* about a said character to classify them, at first, you where saying that Hilda is a *Major Antagonist*, but now your saying that she's a *Minor Antagonist* by ZWS.  But the thing about Bellum and Malladus is that they have backstories and legends about them, indicating they took place and are going to take place against the Protagonist as the mains and that catigory never turned up in my search, even with the quotes added to "Major Antagonist", it wasn't included in my results.  Hilda is a *Type* of Antagonist, but she isn't purely one, I agree that by ZWS, she is a Minor Antagonist.  Lets give others a chance to pin in with their insights also.  --[[User:Vaati The Wind Demon|Vaati The Wind Demon]] ([[User talk:Vaati The Wind Demon|talk]]) 02:36, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
:No. "Major antagonist" simply means that the character is the main obstacle to the PoV character, the "protagonist". It doesn't mean good or evil. A "minor antagonist" would be a temporary, forgettable annoyance, like a Like-Like or somebody that runs off with your Rupees that one time. Hilda is the mastermind behind Link's obstacles, even if Yuga usurps her, and is thus the game's Major Antagonist. Antagonist != most evil or villain or shows up rarely. All it means is that they are the cause of the primary obstacle.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 00:25, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
:No. "Major antagonist" simply means that the character is the main obstacle to the PoV character, the "protagonist". It doesn't mean good or evil. A "minor antagonist" would be a temporary, forgettable annoyance, like a Like-Like or somebody that runs off with your Rupees that one time. Hilda is the mastermind behind Link's obstacles, even if Yuga usurps her, and is thus the game's Major Antagonist. Antagonist != most evil or villain or shows up rarely. All it means is that they are the cause of the primary obstacle.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 00:25, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
::To be honest, I think we're confusing the terms "major antagonist" and "main antagonist." If I'm interpreting Zelda Wiki definitions correctly, they're not the same. It is true that Hilda instigates the whole plot, but the person who directly opposes and challenges Link throughout the game is Yuga. On top of that, he reveals his true motives right before the final battle, and it's implied that this was his agenda from the start. In this respect, he was manipulating Hilda the whole time, and he gets the closest to achieving his goals (Hilda did get another Triforce, but not by stealing Hyrule's). Also, no one is denying that Hilda is an antagonist. I noticed that we're throwing around the definition of the term a lot; we know she is an antagonist and she kicked off the plot herself, but in light of how said plot unfolds, does that really make her the game's major adversary? I know it's a minor issue, but I don't wanna start an editing war, so I'm curious as to how others will weigh in. [[User:Okoa|Okoa]] ([[User talk:Okoa|talk]]) 09:03, 8 December 2013 (UTC)