User talk:GoldenChaos

zanramon blacklist

Why has my Zanramon account been blacklisted . The reason you put spam and stuff what does that mean by last controbution was in may. Can you show me what my spam was

the controbutions in may where only on talk Wii and uploading a picture for my userpage

You know Jason, I can't really see why Zanramon was put under a six month block[1]. Looking at the user contributions, I can't find anything that warrants a six-month block, or any block at all, after the March 8th block. I hope I'd don't have to remind you that you are not supposed to block a person for something that they were already blocked for. It seems to me that he only created another account to ask his question here. That is perfectly understandable considering that he, as well as I, thinks that the block wasn't fair. His original account should be unblocked immediately. There is no reason to block members for no good reason. This issue is a prime example of why we should have blocking time guidelines. The alleged, but non-existent, spamming would not warrant a six-month block. Three days perhaps, but not six months.User:Mjr162006/sig 06:37, July 4, 2008 (UTC)

Yep. There was some more of my brutal honesty, patent pending.:P You may not like it, but it has to be said, for the good of the wiki. This is not a practice I wan't us to be getting into. If we keep doing things like this, our reputation would suffer greatly. We don't want that to happen.User:Mjr162006/sig 06:43, July 4, 2008 (UTC)

Or, you could actually go around asking, where I would be happy to tell you he comes into the chatroom and spams the place to hell. Pretty much everytime he entered too. Isn't that right Zanramon? User:Seablue254/sig 13:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Does the chatroom count for the Zelda Wiki account. I think you can still get to it, through another applet, without go through site. Blocking people for things done in the chatroom is not right either. That is basically what a chatroom is. I've seen some of the things said there. Had any others members said them they'd have been blocked too. This block is no good. Remove.User:Mjr162006/sig 14:16, July 4, 2008 (UTC)

You're correct, he can get back in, because I never had a chance to set a ban. HOWEVER, while cursing and the such is allowed, SPAM is not. If you come in, I'll show you spam. User:Seablue254/sig 14:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Ahhh, I really don't want to say anything as I reeeeally don't want to be the "bad guy" here, but I feel the need to say something. Have you guys seen this? Imagine that but, like everywhere. There was never really any actual contributions to discussion except maybe once; it almost seemed like he was just saying stuff for the sake of saying stuff, helping to clog up discussion pages (although I have to admit, I found his first sentence here hilarious, although it may be because I know the context). Basically most (most, not all, but most) of what he did was... I really don't have any words here without being just mean, and I don't like doing that. :/ I'm not exactly saying that it completely warranted the full 6-month-with-no-explanation block, but I am saying that there has been a decent amount of spam from Zanramon.
Sorry if I've offended you here, Zanramon, as it really wasn't my goal: I'm just trying to state facts and the possible reason for the block. User:Ando/sig 14:51, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Sigh. He spammed. Like this:

NO STUFF ON MY TALK PAGE BOY! ~ Jason.

Like that. That's wrong. obviously. User:Seablue254/sig 15:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Blockable material. But not six months worth. A month would have been more appropriate.User:Mjr162006/sig 15:05, July 4, 2008 (UTC)

Actually, even if I am offensive here, Zanramon had it coming to him. User:Seablue254/sig 15:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

He spammed the wiki too, and not just talk pages (in particular mine, as Ando pointed out). One example was when he uploaded a picture of a Goron Travelling Merchant smoking marijuana, and added it to the article. As you'll see here, I had to give him a number of stern warnings when he first came to the wiki. As you can see from the block log he'd already had two short blocks from me, but I'd refrained from a longer block like Jason issued in the hope that he'd improve. He didn't, and the destructive behaviour persisted, but never to a point where it was serious enough to warrant a permanent block. In short, he had this coming. User:Adamcox82/sig18:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Good to finally see that there's someone who also knows :) User:Seablue254/sig 19:37, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Here's a compromise. In the future, whenever you block a user, you should state a detailed reason for doing so on the user's talk page. Wikipedia does this, of course they've got extensions to do that. We don't have a dozen or more blocks a day like Wikipedia. We just have a few every couple weeks or so. Therefore, it isn't that hard to state the details of a block to the user on the user's talk page. We should also consider those blocking time guidelines.
Aren't blocked users still able to edit their own talk page? I was under the impression that they were.User:Mjr162006/sig 02:06, July 5, 2008 (UTC)

You gotta remember, the blocker was Jason, and he's got, like, no time ever. I'm kind of confused as to why he banned Zanramon when he did (not saying it wasn't warranted, just... why randomly THEN?), but that was probably all that he had time to do. Zelda Universe apparently keeps him very, very busy, which I can't say surprises me.

I do agree, though, that except in situations of clear, cut-and-dry vandalism (which is really the most common reason for blocking anyway), a detailed reason should be provided beyond the initial description in the block-drop-down. User:Ando/sig 05:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Most likely I did it back when the wiki was young - when we didn't have enough users for me to care who was on and who was not. I wouldn't ban for six months now... but I know I did a lot of permanent bans way back when :P ...EDIT: Apparently it was in May - well then, I have no idea why I picked six months! Must have not been paying attention. --GoldenChaos 12:52, 5 July 2008 (UTC)