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Oh, thank you! See, this is what I've been asking for forever now, and no one apparently knows of its existence except you. Haha. It's be nice if this was easier to find... Anyway, about the lexical sets... They seem like a very nice idea, however, I'm not sure how accurate they are. For example, <small>CLOTH</small> and <small>THOUGHT</small> (as well as 'taut' and 'hawk') are said to be pronounced with the O as /ɔ/ in GenAm, but most Americans would pronounce it with /ɑ/. I think maybe a few places like New York City and Philadelphia might pronounce them that way. I know they seem to pronounce the word 'on' as /ɔn/ instead of /ɑn/ like the majority of the US. So altho you say "it's fairly clear what I mean no matter our individual accents", it's really NOT to most people (325 million in the US versus 62 million in the UK). Most English speakers who see "AW" are going to think it's pronounced /ɑː/, not /ɔː/. Now, that might not be a problem sometimes (so long as they don't know IPA), it can cause problems with words like origin, which -according to the lexical set list on Wikipedia- says 'origin' is pronounced the same way as 'cough' and 'long'. But that's not the case at all. You could write 'cawf' and 'lawng' and the pronunciation wouldn't change, but 'awrigin' wouldn't work since most people in the US say 'origin' with an OR (ɔr) sound as apposed to an AW (ɑ) sound. [[User:Schwarzorn|Schwarzorn]] ([[User talk:Schwarzorn|talk]]) 23:24, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

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