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:I would agree with you that the land in ''Spirit Tracks'' is different land. However, at no point in the game is this land ever actually named, "Hyrule" or otherwise. "New Hyrule" is a fanon title. It is most likely called "Hyrule" based on certain quotes in the game, but there's no conclusive evidence. For that reason—since we have nothing else to name it—in my opinion, our best option is to just leave it here. Perhaps dedicate a section specifically to it, but not an entire page. I guess you can say I favor a reorganization of part of the article over splitting it. {{:User:Hylian King/sig}} 19:37, 30 December 2011 (EST)
:I would agree with you that the land in ''Spirit Tracks'' is different land. However, at no point in the game is this land ever actually named, "Hyrule" or otherwise. "New Hyrule" is a fanon title. It is most likely called "Hyrule" based on certain quotes in the game, but there's no conclusive evidence. For that reason—since we have nothing else to name it—in my opinion, our best option is to just leave it here. Perhaps dedicate a section specifically to it, but not an entire page. I guess you can say I favor a reorganization of part of the article over splitting it. {{:User:Hylian King/sig}} 19:37, 30 December 2011 (EST)


I agree that the Hyrule featured in Spirit Tracks should be given a separate article for the soul reason that it is a different land alone. It has its own mythology, history and races. It would be contradictory to say it is in with the article for the ancient Kingdom of Hyrule, as at no point within the series has it ever been stated the Faron, Eldin and Lanayru of Skyward Sword are not the same ones as from Twilight Princess. They are each given separate articles with no confirmation that they are separate characters. Then why do the two different Hyrules share the same article when it is a known fact that they are different kingdoms? If we are to go into the discussion of fan-made names such as "New Hyrule," I argue that several articles on this wiki have fan-made titles: War of the Bound Chest, Hyrulen Civil War and Hyrulean in general and the Great Flood are all fan-made names. The word "Hyrulean" to apply to people living within Hyrule is a popular fan idea from a while back and the word "Hyrulean" doesn't even exist in the Japanese version at all. In regards to giving two different lands called Hyrule the same page when they are different, all three characters named Fado should share the same page by that logic. I pointed this out before, but if we are going by things sharing names sharing articles, what is going on with Faron, Eldin and Lanayru? There are a lot of things that aren't quite right. I personally think a page named "New Hyrule" should be made to distinguish the two kingdoms from one another and not to confuse newer fans of the series who may visit here for information. The beginning of the article could begin as follows: "'''New Hyrule''' is the fanon name given to the reestablished Kingdom of Hyrule in Spirit Tracks." [[User:Her Grace|Her Grace]] 18:21, 9 January 2012 (EST)
::I agree that the Hyrule featured in Spirit Tracks should be given a separate article for the soul reason that it is a different land alone. It has its own mythology, history and races. It would be contradictory to say it is in with the article for the ancient Kingdom of Hyrule, as at no point within the series has it ever been stated the Faron, Eldin and Lanayru of Skyward Sword are not the same ones as from Twilight Princess. They are each given separate articles with no confirmation that they are separate characters. Then why do the two different Hyrules share the same article when it is a known fact that they are different kingdoms? If we are to go into the discussion of fan-made names such as "New Hyrule," I argue that several articles on this wiki have fan-made titles: War of the Bound Chest, Hyrulen Civil War and Hyrulean in general and the Great Flood are all fan-made names. The word "Hyrulean" to apply to people living within Hyrule is a popular fan idea from a while back and the word "Hyrulean" doesn't even exist in the Japanese version at all. In regards to giving two different lands called Hyrule the same page when they are different, all three characters named Fado should share the same page by that logic. I pointed this out before, but if we are going by things sharing names sharing articles, what is going on with Faron, Eldin and Lanayru? There are a lot of things that aren't quite right. I personally think a page named "New Hyrule" should be made to distinguish the two kingdoms from one another and not to confuse newer fans of the series who may visit here for information. The beginning of the article could begin as follows: "'''New Hyrule''' is the fanon name given to the reestablished Kingdom of Hyrule featured in Spirit Tracks." [[User:Her Grace|Her Grace]] 18:21, 9 January 2012 (EST)

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Skyward Sword

Lots of info from Skyward Sword needs to be added as that game is basically an origin story for Hyrule. I have unfortunately only completed half of the game as my Wii is broken and I won't get it fixed for another 2 weeks. Anyone who has completed the game want to fill in the relevant sections with SS info? Ganondorfdude11 17:20, 8 December 2011 (EST)

New Hyrule

I'm gonna ask this even thought it has been asked before see "Spirit Tracks" it needs to happen, New Hyrule needs to have its own page its a different entity(land), with a different culture, inhabitants, story, religion, and history. Great Sea has its own article, but its essentialy Hyrule's mountains peaks and in a pool of water. The main aurguement is Hyrule, is Hyrule. Note, the King's words at the end of The Wind Waker "Ah, but child... That land will not be Hyrule. It will be YOUR land!". The name New Hyrule is either the people making Spirit Tracks forgot what the king said, or it was a tribute to Hyrule like New England was a tribute to England. So I plead to you, please make New Hyrule its own page/article. XXSuperXXNintendoXx 18:51, 30 December 2011 (EST)

I would agree with you that the land in Spirit Tracks is different land. However, at no point in the game is this land ever actually named, "Hyrule" or otherwise. "New Hyrule" is a fanon title. It is most likely called "Hyrule" based on certain quotes in the game, but there's no conclusive evidence. For that reason—since we have nothing else to name it—in my opinion, our best option is to just leave it here. Perhaps dedicate a section specifically to it, but not an entire page. I guess you can say I favor a reorganization of part of the article over splitting it. — Hylian King [*] 19:37, 30 December 2011 (EST)
I agree that the Hyrule featured in Spirit Tracks should be given a separate article for the soul reason that it is a different land alone. It has its own mythology, history and races. It would be contradictory to say it is in with the article for the ancient Kingdom of Hyrule, as at no point within the series has it ever been stated the Faron, Eldin and Lanayru of Skyward Sword are not the same ones as from Twilight Princess. They are each given separate articles with no confirmation that they are separate characters. Then why do the two different Hyrules share the same article when it is a known fact that they are different kingdoms? If we are to go into the discussion of fan-made names such as "New Hyrule," I argue that several articles on this wiki have fan-made titles: War of the Bound Chest, Hyrulen Civil War and Hyrulean in general and the Great Flood are all fan-made names. The word "Hyrulean" to apply to people living within Hyrule is a popular fan idea from a while back and the word "Hyrulean" doesn't even exist in the Japanese version at all. In regards to giving two different lands called Hyrule the same page when they are different, all three characters named Fado should share the same page by that logic. I pointed this out before, but if we are going by things sharing names sharing articles, what is going on with Faron, Eldin and Lanayru? There are a lot of things that aren't quite right. I personally think a page named "New Hyrule" should be made to distinguish the two kingdoms from one another and not to confuse newer fans of the series who may visit here for information. The beginning of the article could begin as follows: "New Hyrule is the fanon name given to the reestablished Kingdom of Hyrule featured in Spirit Tracks." Her Grace 18:21, 9 January 2012 (EST)