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| <center> | | <center>{{OoT}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
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| <center> | | <center>{{MM}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
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| <center> | | <center>{{OoA}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
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| <center> | | <center>{{OoS}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
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| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{N}}</center> | | <center>{{N}}</center> | ||
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| <center> | | <center>{{FSA}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{N}}</center> | | <center>{{N}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{N}}</center> | | <center>{{N}}</center> | ||
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| <center> | | <center>{{TMC}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{N}}</center> | | <center>{{N}}</center> | ||
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| <center> | | <center>{{TP}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{Y}}</center> | | <center>{{Y}}</center> | ||
| <center>{{N}}</center> | | <center>{{N}}</center> | ||
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*{{TLoZ}} (second adventure) - unplayed | *{{TLoZ}} (second adventure) - unplayed | ||
*{{TAoL}} (second adventure) - unplayed | *{{TAoL}} (second adventure) - unplayed | ||
* | *{{MQ}} - unplayed | ||
*''[[Linked Game|Oracle Series Linked Game]]'' - '''100% COMPLETED''' | *''[[Linked Game|Oracle Series Linked Game]]'' - '''100% COMPLETED''' | ||
*''[[Zelda 3DS]]'' - unplayed | *''[[Zelda 3DS]]'' - unplayed | ||
*''[[The Legend of Zelda: Battle Quest]]'' - unplayed | *''[[The Legend of Zelda: Battle Quest]]'' - unplayed | ||
* | *{{ZG&W}} - '''PLAYED''' | ||
*'' | *''{{TLoZGW}}'' - unplayed | ||
*''[[BS The Legend of Zelda]]'' - unplayed | *''[[BS The Legend of Zelda]]'' - unplayed | ||
*''[[BS The Legend of Zelda: Inishie no Sekiban]]'' - unplayed | *''[[BS The Legend of Zelda: Inishie no Sekiban]]'' - unplayed | ||
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*''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' - unplayed | *''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' - unplayed | ||
*''Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition'' - unplayed | *''Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Wii U Edition'' - unplayed | ||
* | *{{SCII}} - unplayed | ||
*''Dynasty Warriors VS'' - unplayed | *''Dynasty Warriors VS'' - unplayed | ||
*''[[Captain Rainbow]]'' - unplayed | *''[[Captain Rainbow]]'' - unplayed | ||
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Face it. Hyrule, and the lands and universes that link too it, are one, giant loony bin. Adults drink vintage milk. People ask a kid in green to run missions too deadly to entrust to the local militia. Home owners will politely discuss trivia with a complete stranger who enters their house, smashes their pots and takes their rupees. People are shot out of cannons as sport or genuine "I've got a good idea" plans. Shop vendors can [[Bomb-Master Cannon|hate you]], [[Beedle|drop you from the sky]] or [[The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening|murder you for stealing]]. Heck, [[Mr. Write|one guy]] falls in love with a goat after a brief postal correspondence and a Nintendo reference. All of these characters are part of the Zelda humour, and half the time you need to read the text in detail or see link's expression to fully appreciate it. | Face it. Hyrule, and the lands and universes that link too it, are one, giant loony bin. Adults drink vintage milk. People ask a kid in green to run missions too deadly to entrust to the local militia. Home owners will politely discuss trivia with a complete stranger who enters their house, smashes their pots and takes their rupees. People are shot out of cannons as sport or genuine "I've got a good idea" plans. Shop vendors can [[Bomb-Master Cannon|hate you]], [[Beedle|drop you from the sky]] or [[The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening|murder you for stealing]]. Heck, [[Mr. Write|one guy]] falls in love with a goat after a brief postal correspondence and a Nintendo reference. All of these characters are part of the Zelda humour, and half the time you need to read the text in detail or see link's expression to fully appreciate it. | ||
Now sure, a man in skin-tight green leggings floating over your head might freak you out. If you are the kind of person who likes to think about the men's tights they see in video games (most of us pay attention to other things). But what about the topless (originally nude <ref name="changes">{{Cite | Now sure, a man in skin-tight green leggings floating over your head might freak you out. If you are the kind of person who likes to think about the men's tights they see in video games (most of us pay attention to other things). But what about the topless (originally nude <ref name="changes">{{Cite Web| url=http://artemis251.fobby.net/zelda/unused.php | title=Link's Awakening: Unused Parts | site=artemis251.fobby.net }}</ref>) [[Hippo Model|supermodel/hippopotamus]]? Or the [[Poe Collector]] who says, and I quote, "If I looked as good as you, I could run a different kind of business...heh he heh..."? Or the [[Lake Scientist]] who begins his compliments with, and again I quote, "You may not have noticed, but I've been watching you..."? Or the quest to recover a Mermaid's bikini top?<ref name="changes"></ref> Or [[Nabooru]]: | ||
:"Will you go through this tiny hole and get a treasure that's inside?" | :"Will you go through this tiny hole and get a treasure that's inside?" | ||
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People just as creepily dressed abound ([[Tott]], [[Falbi]] and [[Fyer]], [[Dodoh]], etc.). And then there's | People just as creepily dressed abound ([[Tott]], [[Falbi]] and [[Fyer]], [[Dodoh]], etc.). And then there's | ||
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And if you hate Tingle's dress-sense then do not follow this link to [[Characters in Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland]] - especially focussing on [[Duke]], [[Judge]], [[Duko]] (that's a girl, by the way), the [[Foreman]] or [[Pinkle]]. Considering his home-town, Tingle is actually pretty well adjusted. | And if you hate Tingle's dress-sense then do not follow this link to [[Characters in Freshly-Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland]] - especially focussing on [[Duke]], [[Judge]], [[Duko]] (that's a girl, by the way), the [[Foreman]] or [[Pinkle]]. Considering his home-town, Tingle is actually pretty well adjusted. | ||
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No, Tingle is no worse than any of these. His problem is that he is in many games, and the rage accumulates. But even so, individual examples of Tingle are outweighed by individual examples of Fi, Navi, Dodoh and others. I could not understand the Tingle-hate, until I read this on zeldauniverse.net: | No, Tingle is no worse than any of these. His problem is that he is in many games, and the rage accumulates. But even so, individual examples of Tingle are outweighed by individual examples of Fi, Navi, Dodoh and others. I could not understand the Tingle-hate, until I read this on zeldauniverse.net: | ||
:"I don't think it has something to do with Americans in general, but with the fact, that the main core audience of video gamers in the USA mostly consists of teenage boys. Unlike for example in Japan, where the audience is more varied. And for teenage boys everything has to be cool and mature, because they want to be cool and mature. They just don't get the humor. He's supposed to be an insane, worthless and annoying child molestor with his "Little boy! Take me to the land of fairies!" and his wearing a green spandex with red underwear on the outside. That's the whole point. That's all part of the humor. But video game characters nowadays always have to look like the bold, muscle packed, ubercool space marine... in space. Or the ultracool hip hop gangster... in space. Or hot blonde chicks with large "guns".... in space. Because of the addressed core audience. Young males want these types of characters to compensate a part of the insecurity in their teenage phase. Everything needs to look cool and mature, it would be embarrassing if it doesn't. A character like Tingle in your favorite game series is just embarrassing, because they want, that playing Zelda looks cool and mature and therefore is accepted by other "cool" people."<ref>{{Cite | :"I don't think it has something to do with Americans in general, but with the fact, that the main core audience of video gamers in the USA mostly consists of teenage boys. Unlike for example in Japan, where the audience is more varied. And for teenage boys everything has to be cool and mature, because they want to be cool and mature. They just don't get the humor. He's supposed to be an insane, worthless and annoying child molestor with his "Little boy! Take me to the land of fairies!" and his wearing a green spandex with red underwear on the outside. That's the whole point. That's all part of the humor. But video game characters nowadays always have to look like the bold, muscle packed, ubercool space marine... in space. Or the ultracool hip hop gangster... in space. Or hot blonde chicks with large "guns".... in space. Because of the addressed core audience. Young males want these types of characters to compensate a part of the insecurity in their teenage phase. Everything needs to look cool and mature, it would be embarrassing if it doesn't. A character like Tingle in your favorite game series is just embarrassing, because they want, that playing Zelda looks cool and mature and therefore is accepted by other "cool" people."<ref>{{Cite Web| url=http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/general-zelda/96703-why-does-usa-hate-tingle.html#post2952184 | title=why does USA hate Tingle | site=zeldauniverse.net }}</ref> | ||
While I doubt all Tingle-haters are sexually insecure schoolboys, this does make a lot of sense. After all, most complaints against Tingle are Homophobic, and Homophobia - especially the fear of catching the dreaded "Gayness" - is always born of insecurity. | While I doubt all Tingle-haters are sexually insecure schoolboys, this does make a lot of sense. After all, most complaints against Tingle are Homophobic, and Homophobia - especially the fear of catching the dreaded "Gayness" - is always born of insecurity. | ||
