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An edit war has broken out on this page due to the objections of a few users who question the legitimacy of certain sources, and I would like to reach out and try to find a compromise/consensus here. Firstly, we use other forms of printed information on the wiki, such as game manuals (i.e. the ALttP manual detailing the Imprisoning War) and interviews (Eiji Aenouma has given such information as TP taking place 100 years after OOT) and it is considered canon. I don't follow clearly those who contest that official game guides previewed and approved by Nintendo are not considered canon. There is no official policy detailing what sources are acceptable, therefore this leaves discretion up to the users and places the burden of proof on them to produce a fairly legitimate source. In the absence of an official policy, I don't see how any one person's opinion can set a precedent for what is or is not acceptable. I can understand that they may give pause to some hardliners, but the fact of the matter is they are still official printed sources that had to be approved by Nintendo before publication. If Nintendo is not contesting the contents of these guides and approved them for publication, I see no reason why we, the fans, should. This is really open to a person's opinion, and that can be tricky as some may feel it is somewhat legitimate while others may not, but to me, if a credible quote/proof can be produced and sourced, I don't see anything wrong with that. As I said, I can understand some of your concerns and am willing to hear them and work with you to find common ground. I am also open to changes in the content of the article, as I have heard some don't like that it reads like a story. But I have to ask, how do you write about a historical event without it sounding like a story? Most history books and encyclopedias today are like storybooks with definitions and glossaries, so how can you really avoid it sounding like a story when you're telling the history of an event? I'm open to ideas. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 05:52, 6 October 2009 (UTC) | An edit war has broken out on this page due to the objections of a few users who question the legitimacy of certain sources, and I would like to reach out and try to find a compromise/consensus here. Firstly, we use other forms of printed information on the wiki, such as game manuals (i.e. the ALttP manual detailing the Imprisoning War) and interviews (Eiji Aenouma has given such information as TP taking place 100 years after OOT) and it is considered canon. I don't follow clearly those who contest that official game guides previewed and approved by Nintendo are not considered canon. There is no official policy detailing what sources are acceptable, therefore this leaves discretion up to the users and places the burden of proof on them to produce a fairly legitimate source. In the absence of an official policy, I don't see how any one person's opinion can set a precedent for what is or is not acceptable. I can understand that they may give pause to some hardliners, but the fact of the matter is they are still official printed sources that had to be approved by Nintendo before publication. If Nintendo is not contesting the contents of these guides and approved them for publication, I see no reason why we, the fans, should. This is really open to a person's opinion, and that can be tricky as some may feel it is somewhat legitimate while others may not, but to me, if a credible quote/proof can be produced and sourced, I don't see anything wrong with that. As I said, I can understand some of your concerns and am willing to hear them and work with you to find common ground. I am also open to changes in the content of the article, as I have heard some don't like that it reads like a story. But I have to ask, how do you write about a historical event without it sounding like a story? Most history books and encyclopedias today are like storybooks with definitions and glossaries, so how can you really avoid it sounding like a story when you're telling the history of an event? I'm open to ideas. [[User:Christopher|Link87]] 05:52, 6 October 2009 (UTC) | ||
:We do not know that Nintendo editorially reviewed these guides before their release. We only know that they had no legal objections to their publication. This does not mean that they are canon. Are we to expect Nintendo to go over every page of a competitor guide manufacturer's guide and refuse to let them publish it because it mentioned a Twilight King? Note that said Twilight King is mentioned absolutely nowhere in the game. If we're to use these guides as canon, then I suppose official Nintendo-sanctioned material like the comics and manga are canon too, even if they contradict the games. Note that the same guide gives Ganondorf's age as fifty, which contradicts Eiji Aonuma's claim that TP takes place over 100 years after OoT. (Note that I switched the edit referring to the time between the games back after rereading the Aonuma interview, because his statements are canon). [[User:Ganondorfdude11|Ganondorfdude11]] 06:01, 6 October 2009 (UTC) | |||