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:::::I am going to go ahead and essentially make the Seven Sages page, but I will not split anything from this page until I'm done and people are happy with it. {{:User:Fizzle/sig}} 18:05, 11 December 2013 (UTC) | :::::I am going to go ahead and essentially make the Seven Sages page, but I will not split anything from this page until I'm done and people are happy with it. {{:User:Fizzle/sig}} 18:05, 11 December 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::::::I guess I will say one more thing: I don't get why the Ancient Sages of TP aren't being interpreted as the same Ancient Sages from OoT, given that in the TP timeline, Ganon didn't enter the Sacred Realm and take over Hyrule, necessitating them to be replaced. I don't have quotes on hand, but isn't it indicated in OoT that he killed the original sages, or something? In any case, the fact that they're both called Ancient Sages, and that Rauru has no reason to have not been a sage in TP, make me think they're the same group.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 21:42, 11 December 2013 (UTC) | :::::::I guess I will say one more thing: I don't get why the Ancient Sages of TP aren't being interpreted as the same Ancient Sages from OoT, given that in the TP timeline, Ganon didn't enter the Sacred Realm and take over Hyrule, necessitating them to be replaced. I don't have quotes on hand, but isn't it indicated in OoT that he killed the original sages, or something? In any case, the fact that they're both called Ancient Sages, and that Rauru has no reason to have not been a sage in TP, make me think they're the same group.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 21:42, 11 December 2013 (UTC) | ||
::::::::Frankly, those Sages are confusing to me. Brawl lists them simply as "Sages", and no quotes in the game indicate that they are THE "ancient Sages", just that they guarded the Mirror of Twilight since "ancient times". They share the elements of the Six Sages but show no other indication of being related to them, aside from an early version of them looking like Rauru (this early concept was dropped, however, perhaps because they didn't want people to think this). Hyrule Historia states very little about them, but does say the phrase "Ancient Sages", but at the same time it doesn't mention anyone else was involved in the creation of the Temple of Time other than Rauru, so whether this was intended to link to that one quote from OoT is a bit of a stretch, because it also states that their true nature is unknown and refers to them as "the Sages of this era". Skyward Sword also brings into question the idea that any Sages were involved in the forging of the Master Sword. | |||
::::::::While it is possible, nay, even potentially quite likely that they are the same Sages that made the Temple of Time, it is also entirely unknown whether this is the case or not. They may be a separate group of Sages, perhaps an intermediate group that existed when the Twili were sealed and have since remained at the Arbiter's Grounds. It's also unclear as to why there are only six of them, or if one of them is Rauru then does he protect both the Mirror of Twilight and the Chamber of Sages at the same time? Can he even do this? | |||
::::::::As for Ganondorf killing the Sages, that was in Wind Waker, I don't believe there are any quotes to that effect in Ocarina of Time. | |||
::::::::I think your guess is right and potentially likely, but the issue is we simply don't know for sure. Obviously we would mention the theory that they are the same ones. I think information about the "ancient Sages" mentioned in OoT and TP should probably be discussed on their page. {{:User:Fizzle/sig}} 23:39, 11 December 2013 (UTC) | |||