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::'Confirmed' or not, that entire bit is completely unnecessary. It can go under the Skyward Sword page. --[[User:Xizor|Xizor]] 18:52, 11 September 2010 (EDT) | ::'Confirmed' or not, that entire bit is completely unnecessary. It can go under the Skyward Sword page. --[[User:Xizor|Xizor]] 18:52, 11 September 2010 (EDT) | ||
:::The thing about Link though, is that he's the medium from which the story is understood by the player. He transcends it, walks though it, and cannot be separated from it. Without explaining how Link goes through the storylines of these games, this page would literally turn into a disambig. If there is any trimming to be done, it should be in word choice, verbosity, and other aesthetic fixes, not content. I'm not a huge fan of how one crat can wave his magic wand and give a page "one week" before it's "axed". {{:User: | :::The thing about Link though, is that he's the medium from which the story is understood by the player. He transcends it, walks though it, and cannot be separated from it. Without explaining how Link goes through the storylines of these games, this page would literally turn into a disambig. If there is any trimming to be done, it should be in word choice, verbosity, and other aesthetic fixes, not content. I'm not a huge fan of how one crat can wave his magic wand and give a page "one week" before it's "axed". {{:User:Cipriano555/sig}} 23:29, 11 September 2010 (EDT) | ||
::::I'm going to second what Brent said, this article is about one of the main protagonists, it shouldn't be trimmed.{{:User:Mandi/sig}} 03:41, September 12, 2010 (UTC) | ::::I'm going to second what Brent said, this article is about one of the main protagonists, it shouldn't be trimmed.{{:User:Mandi/sig}} 03:41, September 12, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::It was just a reference point for comparison as far as the Cartoon and Game went. However, the disparity between the actual game sections themselves? Yeah, each game has a story like the rest of them, so when one game gets 40 sentences and another only gets 2, that's inconsistent and thus bad editing. Furthermore, I never said I'd just go through and randomly remove stuff until I hit a magic number of bytes. I may go through and find only about 5,000 bytes I can remove comfortably. At that point, it becomes a discussion about how to reorganize the page. It is just too long. It's not even about the stupid load time, it's just about it being an unattractive mess. --[[User:Xizor|Xizor]] 06:40, 14 September 2010 (EDT) | ::It was just a reference point for comparison as far as the Cartoon and Game went. However, the disparity between the actual game sections themselves? Yeah, each game has a story like the rest of them, so when one game gets 40 sentences and another only gets 2, that's inconsistent and thus bad editing. Furthermore, I never said I'd just go through and randomly remove stuff until I hit a magic number of bytes. I may go through and find only about 5,000 bytes I can remove comfortably. At that point, it becomes a discussion about how to reorganize the page. It is just too long. It's not even about the stupid load time, it's just about it being an unattractive mess. --[[User:Xizor|Xizor]] 06:40, 14 September 2010 (EDT) | ||
:::I wouldn't call it "bad editing" if a section has 40 compared to 2. In context of this article, Link's role in the games may be less prominent, or less deserving of description than others. Compare ''Ocarina of Time'' to ''Four Swords Adventures''. The first is a very rich, detailed story well deserving of the couple paragraphs of description, while the latter is a strict, arcade-style game where Link statically travels through levels, without much plot development. While I don't agree that this page is a "hulking mess" as you say, as it is organized pretty well by characteristics, game, etc. for the amount of content that is here, all this page needs is minor trimming for content and a reorganization. I really can't see you taking out too much without compromising the content, which IMO needs to stay because Link is irremovable from story elements. {{:User: | :::I wouldn't call it "bad editing" if a section has 40 compared to 2. In context of this article, Link's role in the games may be less prominent, or less deserving of description than others. Compare ''Ocarina of Time'' to ''Four Swords Adventures''. The first is a very rich, detailed story well deserving of the couple paragraphs of description, while the latter is a strict, arcade-style game where Link statically travels through levels, without much plot development. While I don't agree that this page is a "hulking mess" as you say, as it is organized pretty well by characteristics, game, etc. for the amount of content that is here, all this page needs is minor trimming for content and a reorganization. I really can't see you taking out too much without compromising the content, which IMO needs to stay because Link is irremovable from story elements. {{:User:Cipriano555/sig}} 08:56, 14 September 2010 (EDT) | ||
::::I think it depends more on the enthusiasm people feel for a certain game. Most sections could be done more detailed, while OOT could probably lose about 50% of its text, only by removing repetition and telling the tale in order of events rather than as the game reveals things. But people are more enthusiast about OOT than *cough*the actually good*cough* other games in the series, so that section is more likely to get a lot of/multitude of attention than another. This could be called bad editing, but that is something all articles that are primarily a product of independent additions will suffer from. [[User:IfIHaveTo|IfIHaveTo]] 10:10, 14 September 2010 (EDT) | ::::I think it depends more on the enthusiasm people feel for a certain game. Most sections could be done more detailed, while OOT could probably lose about 50% of its text, only by removing repetition and telling the tale in order of events rather than as the game reveals things. But people are more enthusiast about OOT than *cough*the actually good*cough* other games in the series, so that section is more likely to get a lot of/multitude of attention than another. This could be called bad editing, but that is something all articles that are primarily a product of independent additions will suffer from. [[User:IfIHaveTo|IfIHaveTo]] 10:10, 14 September 2010 (EDT) | ||