Talk:Faron (Dragon)
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Based on the lack of a name on the English site and the fact that his Eldin counterpart is named 'Scrapper' rather than 'Eldin', should we just call this guy 'Water Dragon' for now? I mean, that's what he's referred to as on the English site; I'm guessing there may have been a mistake with the previous translation. Fyrisvellir 18:52, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- In the official Lake Floria trailer, the speaker says 水龍フィローネ, which means "Water Dragon Firone", so I really don't think there was any mistake. - TonyT S C 19:48, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- I know next to nothing about Japanese, but could that 'Firone' not be descriptive? E.g. "the Faron Water Dragon" or "the Water Dragon of Faron"? It seems weird that the English site wouldn't mention a name otherwise. Fyrisvellir 20:04, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- If it was like that, it would run along the lines of フィローネの水龍, but the speaker clearly says "Suiryuu Firone", which is just "Water Dragon Firone". And the English website is just a literal translation of the Japanese site, which from what I can tell, doesn't make any mention of its name apart from 水龍. Were it not for the narration on the Lake Floria video, I'd agree with the move. - TonyT S C 20:36, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- Ah, right. Hopefully Nintendo aren't being inconsistent with the names. At any rate, I think this speculative stuff is always gonna be a problem. Fyrisvellir 20:50, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- If it was like that, it would run along the lines of フィローネの水龍, but the speaker clearly says "Suiryuu Firone", which is just "Water Dragon Firone". And the English website is just a literal translation of the Japanese site, which from what I can tell, doesn't make any mention of its name apart from 水龍. Were it not for the narration on the Lake Floria video, I'd agree with the move. - TonyT S C 20:36, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
- I know next to nothing about Japanese, but could that 'Firone' not be descriptive? E.g. "the Faron Water Dragon" or "the Water Dragon of Faron"? It seems weird that the English site wouldn't mention a name otherwise. Fyrisvellir 20:04, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
Naming the three dragons with the designation "skyward sword" does not seem accurate because they aren't the Skyward Sword... we should name them Faron (Dragon) and et cetera...
- Given that these are immortal spirits that protect these regions and were set to their task by Hylia...it seems likely, if not obvious, that they are meant to be the same Spirits as in Twilight Princess. Is there any source to explain why we're claiming they are distinct?KrytenKoro 03:08, 4 December 2011 (EST)
- Immortal? The thunder dragon dies after falling ill. Anyway, the Spirits in Twilight Princess take animal shapes, such as goats, birds and serpents. However, the ones in Skyward Sword are all dragons. Furthermore, they are not associated with their elements in Twilight Princess and were sent by the gods, not a single goddess. You'll need to present evidence pointing to the contrary if you want to say they are the same beings.
- Anyway, we made these pages when Skyward Sword was still premature. Maybe its time to merge the page. — Abdullah [T] [C] [S] 04:42, 4 December 2011 (EST)
- Yeah, you see his skeleton, but immediately after you give him the fruit, he says that he is an "immortal dragon" (which honestly makes me wonder if the skeleton was truly...dead). My point is, it's kind of hard to believe that there are multiple allegedly-immortal divinities with the same names, domains, and basic duties, which were seemingly assigned in the same era...it seems simpler to posit that they should simply be assumed to be the same being, and being gods they changed form over the hundreds of years. Occam's Razor and all that...but if there's disagreement, well, I don't have anything explicit to confirm it. Oh well.KrytenKoro 04:56, 4 December 2011 (EST)