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==Theories About Midna==
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Deleted that entire section. It was awful and seemed to reflect on the author's beliefs and opinions more than that of the general public. Using statements such as "hopefully not" and "predictable" is inappropriate, and claiming certain objects look like breasts and that Majora's voice is "girly" is equally inappropriate. I can rewrite it, if nobody else wants to. ~vox
== Reasons ==


Who likes Midna better, her first form or her real form?
A lot of people have questioned the point of Midna destroying the Mirror. I know the reason why, but no matter how you slice it, it'll sound bad. {{Unsigned|Krystal|00:06, 29 July 2013}}


: Personally, I liked her first form. But I have a tendancy to like the weird looking characters. For example, [[Medli]] was my favorite character in The Wind Waker. Anyways, onto my real point, which will be stated below...
:I hesitate to use the following template, but with the way you word it, it just sounds like speculation, so I encourage you to share it on a forum instead.
:Also, please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). {{:User:TriforceTony/sig}} 06:28, 29 July 2013 (UTC)


I like her in her real form, she looks pretty. Her makeup looks similar to the Japanese Makeup used in Kabuki.
The point was, Nintendo needed an excuse to cut her off from Link, because she possibly loved him, but Miyamoto and Aonuma think that Link belongs with Zelda, and no other.--[[User:Krystal|Krystal]] 06:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)


I like the Imp form better.--[[User:4.153.26.129|4.153.26.129]] 19:46, 22 September 2007 (EDT)
:Well, that's definitely a topic for forums. It's rather irrelevant to the wiki, especially since it's an interpretation and likely not based on their word. {{:User:TriforceTony/sig}} 08:06, 29 July 2013 (UTC)


== Happy Midna? ==
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==Update?==


What the heck is with that weird, bright, and happy Midna picture? o_O Is that official art? It's way to cheery to really capture Midna, I think. --[[User:GoldenChaos|Jase]] 15:47, 19 January 2007 (CST)
Why does this article need to be updated? Is it Hyrule Warriors? What information needs to be added? [[User:The DJ|The DJ]] ([[User talk:The DJ|talk]]) 01:12, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
:Mostly information about HW, although I guess it's better to just wait until the game is released in 2 weeks in Japan. Also, it is still lacking some sources from the information that has been released so far, which also will be easier to add when the game is released. [[User:Chuck|Chuck]] ([[User talk:Chuck|talk]]) 02:41, 4 August 2014 (UTC)


I found a nice pic of midna and put the old on in a gallery similar to the ones I made for link Zelda and Ganon.[[User:71.183.44.244|71.183.44.244]] 17:05, 9 February 2007 (CST)
== Midna starts off as an Enemy in HW ==


Midna's voice isn't girly. And some of the info given a while ago was completely wrong until somebody changed it. Whoever write that was expressing their opinion, not everyone on the whole.
http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/midna-starts-off-as-an-enemy-in-hyrule-warriors#.U7MVz9q9KSO --[[User:Isamisa@legacy41959887|Isamisa]] ([[User talk:Isamisa@legacy41959887|talk]]) 20:13, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


She looks cool in both her forms by the way! She's got to be my fave character. :)
==''Wreck-It Ralph''==
In the film ''Wreck-It Ralph'', isn't it plausible that Vanellope Von Schweetz could be based on Midna? It's a movie based entirely off of video games, and the two of them have a few things in common...They're both short, snarky, somewhat impish characters who wear ponytails, and both were princesses previously, only to be dethroned by psychotic villains and reduced to dimunitive outcasts - the only difference between them in this regard is that Vanellope had her memories erased and didn't know she was a princess. Both characters end up teaming up with heroes, somewhat reluctantly, in both cases, and the villain they were facing turns out to just be a front for the greater-scope villain that was behind everything. (King Candy was really Turbo in disguise, and Zant was only acting under Ganondorf's power.)


==Princess Midna==
...In addition, Vanellope's glitching does somewhat resemble Midna whenever she uses her power to phase through walls and such...Wouldn't this be worth a mention in the trivia section? [[User:Mistress Fi|Mistress Fi]] ([[User talk:Mistress Fi|talk]]) 01:44, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Okay, so I'm fine with this article being called either Midna or Princess Midna, but I kinda want to make something clear for myself (have been wanting to do that for a while now).
:Personally, I believe that if someone puts his hand, voluntarily and knowingly, in liquid oxygen, fire, a hungry tiger's mouth, acid, or a shredder (turned on), that person is simply stupid. I do not believe they can complain anywhere that there was no sign or person telling them they'd lose their hand if they'd do that.
:That said, why do we have spoiler warnings and the like? If somewhere is written "story" or "synopsis" and I read it, it's my own stupid fault that I spoil the story for myself. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia about the Zelda Universe, right? (correct me if I'm wrong. I couldn't find a "What this is and what this not is" page). Just who would come here, looking for an article or articles that he/she knows are very likely to spoil something for them? Just WHAT would such a person expect to find? When I had not played TP yet, I stayed away from the TP boards. It's common sense.
:So, just as a question, why do we put warning signs everywhere? Wouldn't it in general be handier to put one big warning sign on the front page, rather than many scattered all over the site in articles that are bound to spoil it for you if you read them while not having played/finished the game yet. Midna, Princess Midna; I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Just for the sake of a true encyclopedic article, I don't think anyone should worry about that very small group of idiots that do not know the meaning of "encyclopedia". [[User:IfIHaveTo|IfIHaveTo]] 14:50, 18 November 2007 (EST)


::I take your point; most of what is written on the wiki is a spoiler of one type or another. Therefore, I think the <nowiki>{{spoiler}}</nowiki> template should be used sparingly, only for major spoilers (by which I mean those which entirely spoil either the game's ending, or it's major plot twist/reveal). But I do think it's essential that we still have them. I have played 11 Zelda titles, of which I have completed 8, so for me there is little left to spoil. But I expect that's not true of many readers here. And you have to bear in mind that the wiki is a hugely varied mix of articles, some of which relate to one game, others to many, a large proportion of which do not specify which game the pertain to. So the risk of running across a major spoiler for a game you may wish to play un-spoiled is high. In my view, anything we can do to lessen that makes this a more agreeable place to be, and I don't find that the warnings impair my enjoyment of an article. (NB, just my opinion, not necessarily right :) --[[User:Adamcox82|Adam]] 15:58, 18 November 2007 (EST)
:I'm afraid that we don't entertain comparisons to non-Nintendo series, especially without official word. And their similarities can easily be explained by taking a trip through TV Tropes, especially if you nit-pick convenient details. {{:User:TriforceTony/sig}} 03:22, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


== Spoiler ==
==Zelda giving Midna the Triforce of Wisdom?==
And we know this how? The verification doesn't verify anything about that. It says Zelda made sacrifices. Just because we know she made sacrifices doesn't mean we know the Triforce of Wisdom was the sacrifice. [[User:TrueZelda3@legacy41973200|TrueZelda3]] ([[User talk:TrueZelda3@legacy41973200|talk]]) 20:22, 7 July 2016 (UTC)


Why did you move the spoiler warning, the top part reveals that Midna is not an imp. Wouldn't that be considered a spoiler?.--[[User:Link hero of light|Link hero of light]] 23:41, 23 January 2008 (EST)
:I believe the reasoning was that Zelda lost her physical form in the Twilight Realm because of her sacrifice, while the Triforce allows a person from the world of light to remain in Twilight.
:However, there's no indication that Midna has the ToW, so it's merely speculation. I have removed it. {{:User:TriforceTony/sig}} 21:40, 7 July 2016 (UTC)


I will move it back--[[User:Zanramon|Zanramon]] 13:26, 24 January 2008 (EST)
== Twili Midna's own page ==


== Deperate Hour ==
Since Twili Midna had been selected to have her own page, just a few questions, will it only be for Non-Canon Information as her name? (Like how Toon Zelda, Toon Link and Young Link have their own page as Non-canon info?) and did she had the same Voice actor as the one from {{TP}}? And lastly, would it be right to still put it as she is from the Era of Twilight? If yes, then maybe should Toon Zelda should have "Era of a new Hyrule" on her page as well? -- [[User:Wolfgerlion64|Wolfgerlion64]] ([[User talk:Wolfgerlion64|talk]]) 17:00, 22 March 2018 (UTC)


I would really appreciate it if someone could find me a music sheet for Midna's Desperate hour. Could somebody do it for me, please.--[[User:Link hero of light|Link hero of light]] 20:50, 7 February 2008 (EST)
== Change of definition on Midna "imp" form  ==


== Relationship With Link? ==
I am noticing that you have been removing my modification on the word "imp" replacing it with "creature" / "monster". I want to clarify that my modification has arguments. in the Japanese version of TP, Midna says herself "monster", and that word in Japanese means "Kaibutsu" = "monster. The word "imp" does NOT appear in the original dialogue or enter the category of "monster", it is just one of the many bad editions of Nintendo USA. Zelda games are supposed to be based on the original translations of Japan, not the USA. I already left the links 4 times and it seems that they do not want to accept that Midna is not an "imp", it is an invention of Nintendo USA.


It seems to just be a section devoted for fan speculation. This seems to run rampant in this wiki. Unless it can be delivered more factually, I propose it removed. She also has relationships with Zelda, Zant, and Ganon, and those aren't there either. Simply ship fodder. [[User:Saibh|Saibh]] 20:38, 12 March 2008 (EDT)
SOURCE:
Midna in Palace of Twilight:
http://forums.legendsalliance.com/index.php?showtopic=14202&st=750&p=398219&#entry398219
http://forums.legendsalliance.com/index.php?showtopic=14202&st=750&p=398496&#entry398496
[[User:Orzal|Orzal]] ([[User talk:Orzal|talk]]) 00:29, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


But it's a rather important relationship and questioned. There is a whole article based on LinkxZelda. Shouldn't MidnaxLink at least get a section about it? I don't think it should be removed.--[[User:Link hero of light|Link hero of light]] 22:51, 12 March 2008 (EDT)
:I'm not sure how many ways I can explain this, but per [[Zelda Wiki:Canon Policy#Canon Issues With Languages|Zelda Wiki policy]], we are to base our content off of the American English canon, regardless of our personal opinions of it. While the difference between Midna referring to herself as a monster instead of an imp is interesting, it is a minor difference with little contextual difference and doesn't supersede our policy. [[User:TriforceTony|TriforceTony]] ([[User talk:TriforceTony|talk]]) 00:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


:Aye, but it's a much different kind of relationship than with Ganon or Zant; she is one of the few characters in the series that has been heavily hinted at loving Link, and as such is an exception. So that fact should get at least a small mention in the article. --[[User:Ando|Ando]] ''([[User talk:Ando|Talk]])'' 12:03, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
::Hi
::I agree--a mention, but the "relationships" should be expanded upon, and it shouldn't just focus on trying to prove that Midna and Link have something goin' on. They have a friendship, a camaraderie--that's far more notable (as Midna is nothing if not an extension of Link) than a possible ship. I won't remove it quite yet, but I do think there should be edits. [[User:Saibh|Saibh]] 23:18, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
::I understand your policies, weird because they seem to have an affiliation with Nintendo USA, right? It is not a personal opinion, because I have seen that they have put theories in other sections, but in my case I have solid arguments. The difference is that Midna is not an imp because an imp has horns, a long tail and a bad appearance. The artist who created Midna was based on a child combined with a monster, giving a mysterious appearance. But directly, her form does not belong to any kind of imp, not even the Miniblins (in her beta versions of Midna, she had that appearance, but it was discarded). The small form of Midna is unknown, and only refers to herself as a "monster." But hey, I wish that word "imp" is replaced by "monster" or "creature." My intention is not to be rebellious or to foment vandalism. I just rely on what the original Zelda games say. I respect his work on the wiki and I just wanted to give interesting information. [[User:Orzal|Orzal]] ([[User talk:Orzal|talk]]) 01:07, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


If you were to rewrite the section, what would it look like and what would you change?--[[User:Link hero of light|Link hero of light]] 23:58, 19 March 2008 (EDT)
:::Neither Zelda Wiki nor its policies are in affiliation with Nintendo of America, though we happen to cover its products. Also though it seems apparent that Midna was speaking colloquially and not literally, an imp isn't required to have those qualities you've described by definition. [[User:TriforceTony|TriforceTony]] ([[User talk:TriforceTony|talk]]) 01:18, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


::Like I said, Midna doesn't just have a relationship with Link. It needs to elaborate on other people as well. Notably Zelda and Zant--Ganon as well, most likely. And, like I said (again), Link and Midna aren't just double entendres. Their relationship evolves, they're friends far before anything romantic comes to play. They don't actually like each other in the beginning. The section should mainly be about that, with a brief mention devoted to any romantic implications. [[User:Saibh|Saibh]] 14:28, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
== Voice actor link ==


I articles about major characters, Super Mario Wiki has a section devoted to relationships ot that person with other people. Maybe we could add this to Midna's article. In fact we could add it to all major zelda character's articles. Zelda, Link, Impa, Ganon and Tingle should have this.
The link for her voice actor links to a redirect to the Nintendo Wiki, where the page is a stub and doesn't include any roles. I would change it to a Wikipedia link since her Wikipedia page has more, but I'm not sure because it's a link to a redirect to an affiliated wiki. [[User:OwlsTalon|OwlsTalon]] ([[User talk:OwlsTalon|talk]]) 16:01, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 
Here's an example abot Princess Daisy's Relationships taken from Super Mario Wiki.
 
===Peach===
Main article: Princess Peach<br>
Peach is the most notable relationship Daisy has with any of the Mario characters. Daisy has been known to be good friends with Peach ever since her big comeback appearance in Mario Tennis for the Nintendo 64. If something involves partners in the Mario spin-offs the two will usually be a team. Naturally, the two of them enjoy a friendly rivalry, but for the most part they enjoy each other's company. Like Luigi, the two share good chemistry in the game Mario Superstar Baseball, and Daisy is Peach's team's co-captain. By their friendship, one can assume that the Mushroom Kingdom and Sarasaland have very good foreign relations. Nintendo's Mario Power Tennis Website says that Daisy is Peach's sister in arms, obviously meaning more of a 'brotherly love' type of relationship than an actual blood relationship.
 
===Mario===
Main article: Mario <br>
Daisy was rescued by Mario from the clutches of Tatanga in Super Mario Land, and she rewarded him with a kiss upon her rescue. Mario has never explicitly expressed an interest in her, nor has Daisy to him. The two are nothing more than good friends. However, in Mario Party 5, Mario and Daisy are given the name "Nice Couple" when paired together, implying that Daisy and Mario could make a good match. They do not share player chemistry at all in Mario Superstar Baseball.
 
===Luigi===
Main article: Luigi <br>
Luigi is rumored to be Daisy's love interest, and vice versa. As previously noted, one of Daisy's only appearances between Super Mario Land and Mario Tennis was as Luigi's caddy in NES Open Tournament Golf, just as Peach was Mario's caddy. This event would be the first implication of a relationship between the two, spawning the rumors that are mentioned in Daisy's trophy biography in Super Smash Bros. Melee: "After her appearance in Mario Golf, some gossips started portraying her as Luigi's answer to Mario's Peach." In Mario Tennis for the N64, Daisy is Luigi's doubles partner when he is selected for the doubles tournament. In the Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour introduction, Daisy calls upon Luigi in the same way Peach calls upon Mario. When Luigi and Daisy are paired up in past recent Mario Party games, their team name is "Steady Sweeties". In Mario Superstar Baseball, Luigi and Daisy are "buddy players," and they share good chemistry, whereas Daisy does not share any chemistry with Mario. In Mario Power Tennis when Daisy wins a tournament she appears suddenly on roller-skates, and skates past Luigi right after saying to him, "Hey Sweetie". Nintendo has not explicitly stated anything regarding their official status (though they do often drop hints). As a result, the Luigi-Daisy relationship is still a mystery and is widely speculated and debated by fans.
 
===Others===
Wario and Tatanga were the antagonists who both planned and initiated the kidnapping of Daisy, one would assume Daisy has had some sort of dislike of the two. This may be so for Wario, as when he unleashes his special gas ability on her in Mario Strikers Charged Daisy yells at him. Daisy and Wario have had team names in Mario party series such as: Mischief-Makers and Wilted Flowers; both names seem to indicate there could be a lasting relation between the two.
 
Waluigi and Daisy seem to have a shadowed relationship with one another which may be speculation or due to the fact the two started to appear as regulars in the Mario series around the same time. Although Daisy has been shown to have negative reactions to Waluigi in games like Mario Superstar Baseball and Mario Strikers Charged, certain team names such as Awkward Date ,Double-Facers, and Skinny Stars seem to suggest a wide variety of opinions.
 
Other characters like Birdo, Toadette, Yoshi, and other characters playable throughout the Mario series all seem to, at one point or another, suggest they have some sort of positive relationship with Daisy in the Marioverse. Examples include team names such as: Gallopin' Gal-Pals, Shopping Buddies, Tomboy Trouble, Barn-Builders, and more.
 
Midna's could look like this.
 
===Link===
Some fans have suggested that Midna was romantically interested in Link, others suggest that their relationship was just a platonic friendship. During one cut-scene, Midna places her hand on Link's cheek for almost a full four seconds. In another cut-scene, Link cradles Midna in his arms and the two lock eyes for a few moments. Link also reaches after Midna in a few cutscenes and is shocked when she is destroyed by Ganon. At the end of the game, Midna says, "Link... I... See you later". This leaves the impression that Midna was about to tell Link she loved him, but lost her nerve to publicly state her love at the last second.
:Like I said, they are first and foremost a team, a camaraderie. That seems more like a "Romance" sort of section, than a relationship one...How about (with proper spoiler warnings):
 
<blockquote>Upon meeting Link while he is in wolf form, and Midna suggests a deal: she will help him escape from his prison for his help with something. <i>(Maybe there should be a direct quote there.)</i> Midna is often condescending to Link, frequently jeering at him. As they further along on their adventure, Midna and Link grow closer. When Zant attacks both Link and Midna, she pleads for him to help himself, and carry on with their quest. Because of the heroism of both Link and Zelda, the latter having sacrificed herself to save Midna, she gains a true respect for the people of the light. <p>
 
From then on, Link and Midna maintain a strong friendship, and she is far less disdainful and more aimable to him. Towards the end, Midna sacrifices herself as a last desperate attempt to kill Ganon, sending Link and Zelda to safety. She appears to be defeated however, and Link mourns her death after killing Ganon. Shortly after the Light Spirits restore her to life <i>{Actually, I'm not sure if she was dead at all.)</i>, and she shows her true form, joking "What? Say something. Am I so beautiful...that you have no words left?" <i>(I'm pretty sure that's the quote, but someone should double-check.)</i><p>
 
Midna, Zelda, and Link return to the [[Mirror of Twilight]], where she breaks the Mirror, sealing the
world of Light and Twilight from each other forever. Her parting words are "Link... I... See you later."<p>
 
Some fans of the series have noticed a possible love connection between Midna and Link. Some have interpreted a scenes when Midna lays a hand on Link's cheek, or when he cradles her and they gaze at each other for several seconds. No romance is ever explicitly stated, and many material is objectionable when used as "evidence". <i>(I'm not really sure where to go from this.)</i></blockquote>
:I don't really like how it's written, but I think that's more to lines it should go.
 
===Zelda===
I'm not sure what to say here we can decide that if you agree with this.
 
:Maybe something like this?:
 
<blockquote>When the player first meets Zelda, Midna addresses her as "Twilight Princess", and seems to be very aggressive and supercilious of her and her decision to choose Hyrule being turned to Twilight over death. She often mocks Zelda <i>{There should be references here to clarify.}</i> throughout the game. It isn't until Zelda sacrifices herself, imbuing Midna with her Light to save her life that she gains respect for her and the people of the Light. <p>
 
During the final battle, Ganondorf possesses Zelda's body, and Midna tries to use her own to protect the princess. When this fails, Midna looks ready to attack Zelda, but softens and sadly places her hand on Zelda's cheek, and is attacked by Ganon's Puppet Zelda. When she awakens from the attack, Midna uses the [[Fused Shadows]] to eridicate Ganon's presence from Zelda, placing her out of harms way. When Dark Beast Ganon is defeated, the light Zelda gave Midna is returned to her. Zelda says that she and Midnas hearts were as one briefly, and she understands Midna's suffering. <p>
 
When Ganondorf resurfaces later, Midna sacrifices herself to attempt to defeat him, and sends Zelda and Link away to safety. Although it appears as if she has died, Midna is later returned to her true form after Ganon's defeat. At the [[Mirror of Twilight]], Midna intends to leave, but Zelda says that she believes light and shadow were intended to mix. The true Twilight Princess says "your words are kind, and your heart is true", but departs regarless, shattering the Mirror.</blockquote>
 
:Probably needs editing. [[User:Saibh|Saibh]] 21:31, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
 
===Zant===
Zant was heir to the Twilight Realm's throne before Midna was chosen to rule in place of him. This made him furious. Zant out of anger turned Midna into an imp. He then became ruler of the Twilight Realm. Midna later murdered Zant.
 
:It never says Zant was heir to the Twilight Realm. He just believed he deserved to be ruler next, and the Twili saw that he only had greed.
 
<blockquote>The Usurper King Zant turned the Twilight Princess, Midna, into an imp to prevent her from retaking the throne and as punishment for defying him. Midna seeks nothing else than to destroy him, using Link to collect pieces of the [[Fused Shadows]] that may defeat Zant. Nothing is known of Zant and Midna's previous relationship, but it is nothing but hatred when the gamer begins.</blockquote>
 
:Maybe like that? Eh... [[User:Saibh|Saibh]] 21:37, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
 
===Ganondorf===
See what I said for Zelda.
--[[User:Link hero of light|Link hero of light]] 19:57, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
 
:Maybe...
 
<blockquote>Although Midna doesn't know it initially, it is Ganon who pulls the strings behind Zant, who overthrew Midna and changed her into an imp with Ganondorf's power. He intended to become ruler of both the Twilight and the Light, and Midna says to him she will do everything to deny him.</blockquote>
 
:Not much of a relationship.
 
:Is it more appropriate to use Ganon, or Ganondorf? I have a tendency to use the former, but I think I'm wrong. [[User:Saibh|Saibh]] 21:42, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
 
I just changed it around a bit. I'm not sure if it's what you wanted. Tell me what you think, I personally like it just as much as before, if not better, great idea.--[[User:Link hero of light|Link hero of light]] 21:28, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
:Er...changed what? [[User:Saibh|Saibh]] 21:39, 20 March 2008 (EDT)
 
 
::I think he meant [http://zeldawiki.org/index.php?title=Midna&diff=76034&oldid=76028 this]. So anyway, nice work, just needs some quotes/references throwing in where appropriate and it has the makings of a good section. I'd say this is definitely the way to go, as what you said is absolutely true; people have for too long misused relationship to mean only romance. Yes, this is one of the three main meanings of the word:<i>
:# Connection or association.
:# Kinship; being related by blood or marriage.
:# A romantic or sexual involvement.</i>
::However, without quantifying it as romantic, the previous section was inaccurate and heavily biased (I never liked it, but held off from simply deleting because I couldn't envisage a better replacement). This new section balances the article nicely, and should improve the quality through future development. —[[User:Adamcox82|Adam]] <sup>([[User talk:Adamcox82|talk]])</sup> 06:39, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
 
Okay I think we should add this to other major zelda character's articles. I'd like to do Tingle or Link next.--[[User:Link hero of light|Link hero of light]] 10:51, 21 March 2008 (EDT)
 
==Zant-Midna blood tie==
<s>Now, I'm not allowed to rule it out since the game never says no, and I can sort of see where people say that, but...</s> (Actually, in lieu of that dialogue below, I am. He "serves" in the household.)
 
<blockquote>While it is never stated in the game, Zant and Midna both seem to belong to the royal family, hence Zant's expectation that he would ascend to the throne upon the death of the true Twilight King. However, the nature in which the throne is passed down amongst the Twili is unknown, and any blood ties between Midna and Zant are pure speculation.</blockquote>
 
Kay, first thing I did was make it sound less "even though they don't say it, everyone knows it"...because that's what the "While it is never stated in the game" sounds like to me. Better start off on a total-and-complete speculation note. There's only indication that the throne was passed to Midna because she was next in line. Besides that, we don't know that if takes the death of a Twilight (whose to say King, anyway?) Ruler to take the throne, unless I'm forgetting something.
 
I doubt Zant is a part of the royal family. He says, at one point: ''"And all of it was the fault of a useless, do-nothing royal family that had resigned itself to this miserable half-existence! I had served and endured in that depraved household for far too long, my impudent princess. And why, you ask? Because I believed I would be the next to rule our people! THAT is why! But would they acknowledge me as their king? No! And as such, I was denied the magic powers befitting our ruler."'' [[User:Saibh|Saibh]] 11:32, 22 March 2008 (EDT)
 
==Picture==
The picture I uploaded was ment to be the main picture, you got put it on before I could but changed it back. Why did you do that?--[[User:Toon Link|Toon Link]] 17:52, 2 April 2008 (EDT)
 
:The problem he had with that picture was that it shows Midna's true form, right there for anyone who just opened the article to see. I know ''I'' had Midna's true form spoiled to me on accident when I was just looking up some info on Midna, so while spoilers are abound, they should be slightly more hidden than main picture. Your picture's still on the page, too, just not right there. --[[User:Ando|Ando]] <small>''([[User talk:Ando|T]] : [[Special:Contributions/Ando|C]])''</small> 17:59, 2 April 2008 (EDT)
 
Ando prety much summed it up. I put it on, but changed my mind. I'd like to have it up but, it's kind of the first thing you see, even before the spoler warning.--[[User:Link hero of light|Link hero of light]] 18:05, 2 April 2008 (EDT)

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A lot of people have questioned the point of Midna destroying the Mirror. I know the reason why, but no matter how you slice it, it'll sound bad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Krystal 00:06, 29 July 2013

I hesitate to use the following template, but with the way you word it, it just sounds like speculation, so I encourage you to share it on a forum instead.
Also, please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). - TonyT S C 06:28, 29 July 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The point was, Nintendo needed an excuse to cut her off from Link, because she possibly loved him, but Miyamoto and Aonuma think that Link belongs with Zelda, and no other.--Krystal 06:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Well, that's definitely a topic for forums. It's rather irrelevant to the wiki, especially since it's an interpretation and likely not based on their word. - TonyT S C 08:06, 29 July 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Update?

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Why does this article need to be updated? Is it Hyrule Warriors? What information needs to be added? The DJ (talk) 01:12, 4 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mostly information about HW, although I guess it's better to just wait until the game is released in 2 weeks in Japan. Also, it is still lacking some sources from the information that has been released so far, which also will be easier to add when the game is released. Chuck (talk) 02:41, 4 August 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Midna starts off as an Enemy in HW

Latest comment: 1 July 20141 comment1 person in discussion

http://www.zeldainformer.com/news/midna-starts-off-as-an-enemy-in-hyrule-warriors#.U7MVz9q9KSO --Isamisa (talk) 20:13, 1 July 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wreck-It Ralph

Latest comment: 7 December 20152 comments2 people in discussion

In the film Wreck-It Ralph, isn't it plausible that Vanellope Von Schweetz could be based on Midna? It's a movie based entirely off of video games, and the two of them have a few things in common...They're both short, snarky, somewhat impish characters who wear ponytails, and both were princesses previously, only to be dethroned by psychotic villains and reduced to dimunitive outcasts - the only difference between them in this regard is that Vanellope had her memories erased and didn't know she was a princess. Both characters end up teaming up with heroes, somewhat reluctantly, in both cases, and the villain they were facing turns out to just be a front for the greater-scope villain that was behind everything. (King Candy was really Turbo in disguise, and Zant was only acting under Ganondorf's power.)

...In addition, Vanellope's glitching does somewhat resemble Midna whenever she uses her power to phase through walls and such...Wouldn't this be worth a mention in the trivia section? Mistress Fi (talk) 01:44, 7 December 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm afraid that we don't entertain comparisons to non-Nintendo series, especially without official word. And their similarities can easily be explained by taking a trip through TV Tropes, especially if you nit-pick convenient details. - TonyT S C 03:22, 7 December 2015 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Zelda giving Midna the Triforce of Wisdom?

Latest comment: 7 July 20162 comments2 people in discussion

And we know this how? The verification doesn't verify anything about that. It says Zelda made sacrifices. Just because we know she made sacrifices doesn't mean we know the Triforce of Wisdom was the sacrifice. TrueZelda3 (talk) 20:22, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I believe the reasoning was that Zelda lost her physical form in the Twilight Realm because of her sacrifice, while the Triforce allows a person from the world of light to remain in Twilight.
However, there's no indication that Midna has the ToW, so it's merely speculation. I have removed it. - TonyT S C 21:40, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Twili Midna's own page

Latest comment: 22 March 20181 comment1 person in discussion

Since Twili Midna had been selected to have her own page, just a few questions, will it only be for Non-Canon Information as her name? (Like how Toon Zelda, Toon Link and Young Link have their own page as Non-canon info?) and did she had the same Voice actor as the one from Twilight Princess? And lastly, would it be right to still put it as she is from the Era of Twilight? If yes, then maybe should Toon Zelda should have "Era of a new Hyrule" on her page as well? -- Wolfgerlion64 (talk) 17:00, 22 March 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Change of definition on Midna "imp" form

Latest comment: 29 May 20184 comments2 people in discussion

I am noticing that you have been removing my modification on the word "imp" replacing it with "creature" / "monster". I want to clarify that my modification has arguments. in the Japanese version of TP, Midna says herself "monster", and that word in Japanese means "Kaibutsu" = "monster. The word "imp" does NOT appear in the original dialogue or enter the category of "monster", it is just one of the many bad editions of Nintendo USA. Zelda games are supposed to be based on the original translations of Japan, not the USA. I already left the links 4 times and it seems that they do not want to accept that Midna is not an "imp", it is an invention of Nintendo USA.

SOURCE: Midna in Palace of Twilight: http://forums.legendsalliance.com/index.php?showtopic=14202&st=750&p=398219&#entry398219 http://forums.legendsalliance.com/index.php?showtopic=14202&st=750&p=398496&#entry398496 Orzal (talk) 00:29, 29 May 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm not sure how many ways I can explain this, but per Zelda Wiki policy, we are to base our content off of the American English canon, regardless of our personal opinions of it. While the difference between Midna referring to herself as a monster instead of an imp is interesting, it is a minor difference with little contextual difference and doesn't supersede our policy. TriforceTony (talk) 00:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi
I understand your policies, weird because they seem to have an affiliation with Nintendo USA, right? It is not a personal opinion, because I have seen that they have put theories in other sections, but in my case I have solid arguments. The difference is that Midna is not an imp because an imp has horns, a long tail and a bad appearance. The artist who created Midna was based on a child combined with a monster, giving a mysterious appearance. But directly, her form does not belong to any kind of imp, not even the Miniblins (in her beta versions of Midna, she had that appearance, but it was discarded). The small form of Midna is unknown, and only refers to herself as a "monster." But hey, I wish that word "imp" is replaced by "monster" or "creature." My intention is not to be rebellious or to foment vandalism. I just rely on what the original Zelda games say. I respect his work on the wiki and I just wanted to give interesting information. Orzal (talk) 01:07, 29 May 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Neither Zelda Wiki nor its policies are in affiliation with Nintendo of America, though we happen to cover its products. Also though it seems apparent that Midna was speaking colloquially and not literally, an imp isn't required to have those qualities you've described by definition. TriforceTony (talk) 01:18, 29 May 2018 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Voice actor link

Latest comment: 6 November 20221 comment1 person in discussion

The link for her voice actor links to a redirect to the Nintendo Wiki, where the page is a stub and doesn't include any roles. I would change it to a Wikipedia link since her Wikipedia page has more, but I'm not sure because it's a link to a redirect to an affiliated wiki. OwlsTalon (talk) 16:01, 6 November 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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