User talk:Zeldafan1982

Hello

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Thank You

I just wanna thank you by telling you something about Minish Cap while Vaati is draining the Light Force out of Princess Zelda. Did you know that while you're facing the three Darknuts that there is a time limit to when the third bell will ring. If you aren't able to defeat them in time, the third bell will ring and Vaati becomes a God. Surprisingly, all that happens is you hear a bolt of lightning, then the screen fades out, and the game over screen will be shown. When I first saw this, I was like, "AW common, I wanted to see what Vaati the God looks like". The wiered thing is, by the time Minish Cap was released, there was all kinds of new special effects for the GBA System. I hope you find this very interesting.--Vaati The Wind Demon 16:02, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

Whoa, I didn't know that! I thought the game was giving you infinite time at that point, but they actually made it more realistic :) Thanks for pointing it that out, I will check it ASAP :D Zeldafan1982 16:37, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

Please, allow me to show you a video I posted about it, it's the least I could do for you and a form of salutations for you, ;).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpxF-yieM_4 --Vaati The Wind Demon 16:51, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for the help

Hey Zeldafan1982, thanks for helping us revert pages after the recent vandalism! There are times in which very few staff members are online; its always good to see other users stepping up to take back control of their wiki! Happy editing and thanks again, — cipriano^talk 10:19, 22 November 2011 (EST)

Deleting bits of Timeline pages

Hey Zeldafan! Though Hyrule Historia has made much of timeline theory now timeline fact, this doesn't mean that we can go around deleting everything! Hold your horses! :) We are a wiki, and though much of this information is now superfluous, we do like to compile it into archives, if not keeping it at the bottom of the page to show where the community was before the grand announcement of the timeline - so before you go delete any more of our timeline pages, consider this! Also, we take pride in discussing everything with the userbase before large-scale deletions like this occur, make sure you pose our deletion proposal to the editors of this wiki before you go ahead and do it - chances are, some editors will disagree with what you want to do! Thanks, — cipriano^talk 20:39, 4 January 2012 (EST)

I see :) I have put back the Imprisoning War section. The "Deku Tree Succeeds" theory has its own page, so I didn't restore it. Zeldafan1982 10:10, 6 January 2012 (EST)

Hyrule Historia

Hello, Zeldafan1982! You have been doing a great job adding information that has been revealed in the fantranslations of Hyrule Historia, along with removing the theories that are just not relevant anymore...seriously! I've never been good at timeline/theorizing stuff, and since I haven't been really been keeping up with the contents of Hyrule Histora, I just wanted to say thank you for keeping the wiki updated with that stuff. :) Keep up the great work! Dany36 21:02, 10 January 2012 (EST)

The Master Sword's origin

I see you removed the part from the Master Sword article about the Ancient Sages having involvment in its creation and said it's speculation, but... it isn't. As we know, Princess Zelda in Twilight Princess outright says they were involved in the sword's creation. Yet another Zelda, the Skyward Sword one, says she created the blade as well. By default, all official in-game information has presented us with this: the sword was crafted by Hylia and the Ancient Sages and later forged by Link. We can't really ignore non-mistranslated (as far as I know) information from a canonical game, leaving us with no choice but to assume it was co-created. The developers should have known that it's said the sword was crafted by the Ancient Sages when creating the story of Skyward Sword. Why else would they put their symbols in the Temple of Hylia? Alas, for those symbols to even exist would mean the Sages they're assosiated with do as well. The Ancient Sages appear in Twilight Princess, but are not seen in Ocarina of Time, Four Swords or The Minish Cap. We learn that they have been hiding deep within Gerudo Desert for a long time.

I don't mean to sound argumentative, so I apologise if I come across as that! I just personally feel that, while we know for fact that the Master Sword was created by Hylia, we can't then rule out the Sages' involvement unless a source such as Hyrule Historia says the Twilight Princess Zelda was misinformed by the likes oral tradition. It coming from a truly canonic source, the game itself, it can't be ruled out in the way that, say, a manual or Zelda.com can be. Do you see what I'm saying? Sorry to be of any bother, I just feel discussing this would be better than an edit war. :) Her Grace 20:23, 19 January 2012 (EST)

It's ok, I don't mind for a little discussion :) Regarding the TP quote about the Sages, apparently it has been (at least partly!) retconned. Otherwise in SS, instead of having Link to forge the MS with the flames, we would see the sages empowering it. Retconns are quite common in Zelda anyway: according to OoT the ToT was built by the Sages, but HH mentions only Rauru, and there are several other examples as well which personally make me (in general) skeptical about the validity of older canon. On a side note: according to HH, the Sages were guarding the mirror after the execution of Ganondorf took place (in page 113 of HH)! I also had the impression that they did so earlier. Anyway..

There is still the possibility of course that the ancient Sages co-created the Goddess Sword, but since it is not mentioned in SS, I don't think we should take it as a fact. Another interpretation could be that, since the sages are protectors (same as Hylia) their emblems were included in the temple. Zeldafan1982 21:23, 19 January 2012 (EST)

I went into the game expecting to see the Sages be involved in its creation, to be honest! I am hoping new translations from Hyrule Historia clears up the Master Sword's origin, but if it fails to mention the Sages, I guess we can assume it's a retcon. It doesn't really bother me, personally. Thankfully, Fi and her reference to "oral tradition" explains stuff like contradictory quotes on origin stories and legends. Glad we can agree! If Hyrule Historia makes any official clearance on the subject, then we cam simply source the quote in the article. :) Her Grace 15:10, 20 January 2012 (EST)