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Thank You

I just wanna thank you by telling you something about Minish Cap while Vaati is draining the Light Force out of Princess Zelda. Did you know that while you're facing the three Darknuts that there is a time limit to when the third bell will ring. If you aren't able to defeat them in time, the third bell will ring and Vaati becomes a God. Surprisingly, all that happens is you hear a bolt of lightning, then the screen fades out, and the game over screen will be shown. When I first saw this, I was like, "AW common, I wanted to see what Vaati the God looks like". The weird thing is, by the time Minish Cap was released, there was all kinds of new special effects for the GBA System. I hope you find this very interesting.--Vaati The Wind Demon 16:02, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

Whoa, I didn't know that! I thought the game was giving you infinite time at that point, but they actually made it more realistic :) Thanks for pointing it that out, I will check it ASAP :D Zeldafan1982 16:37, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
Please, allow me to show you a video I posted about it, it's the least I could do for you and a form of salutations for you, ;). --Vaati The Wind Demon 16:51, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for the help

Hey Zeldafan1982, thanks for helping us revert pages after the recent vandalism! There are times in which very few staff members are online; its always good to see other users stepping up to take back control of their wiki! Happy editing and thanks again, — ciprianotalk 10:19, 22 November 2011 (EST)

Deleting bits of Timeline pages

Hey Zeldafan! Though Hyrule Historia has made much of timeline theory now timeline fact, this doesn't mean that we can go around deleting everything! Hold your horses! :) We are a wiki, and though much of this information is now superfluous, we do like to compile it into archives, if not keeping it at the bottom of the page to show where the community was before the grand announcement of the timeline - so before you go delete any more of our timeline pages, consider this! Also, we take pride in discussing everything with the userbase before large-scale deletions like this occur, make sure you pose our deletion proposal to the editors of this wiki before you go ahead and do it - chances are, some editors will disagree with what you want to do! Thanks, — ciprianotalk 20:39, 4 January 2012 (EST)

I see :) I have put back the Imprisoning War section. The "Deku Tree Succeeds" theory has its own page, so I didn't restore it. Zeldafan1982 10:10, 6 January 2012 (EST)

Hyrule Historia

Hello, Zeldafan1982! You have been doing a great job adding information that has been revealed in the fantranslations of Hyrule Historia, along with removing the theories that are just not relevant anymore...seriously! I've never been good at timeline/theorizing stuff, and since I haven't been really been keeping up with the contents of Hyrule Historia, I just wanted to say thank you for keeping the wiki updated with that stuff. :) Keep up the great work! Dany36 21:02, 10 January 2012 (EST)

The Master Sword's origin

I see you removed the part from the Master Sword article about the Ancient Sages having involvement in its creation and said it's speculation, but... it isn't. As we know, Princess Zelda in Twilight Princess outright says they were involved in the sword's creation. Yet another Zelda, the Skyward Sword one, says she created the blade as well. By default, all official in-game information has presented us with this: the sword was crafted by Hylia and the Ancient Sages and later forged by Link. We can't really ignore non-mistranslated (as far as I know) information from a canonical game, leaving us with no choice but to assume it was co-created. The developers should have known that it's said the sword was crafted by the Ancient Sages when creating the story of Skyward Sword. Why else would they put their symbols in the Temple of Hylia? Alas, for those symbols to even exist would mean the Sages they're associated with do as well. The Ancient Sages appear in Twilight Princess, but are not seen in Ocarina of Time, Four Swords or The Minish Cap. We learn that they have been hiding deep within Gerudo Desert for a long time.

I don't mean to sound argumentative, so I apologize if I come across as that! I just personally feel that, while we know for fact that the Master Sword was created by Hylia, we can't then rule out the Sages' involvement unless a source such as Hyrule Historia says the Twilight Princess Zelda was misinformed by the likes oral tradition. It coming from a truly canonic source, the game itself, it can't be ruled out in the way that, say, a manual or can be. Do you see what I'm saying? Sorry to be of any bother, I just feel discussing this would be better than an edit war. :) Her Grace 20:23, 19 January 2012 (EST)

It's ok, I don't mind for a little discussion :) Regarding the TP quote about the Sages, apparently it has been (at least partly!) retconned. Otherwise in SS, instead of having Link to forge the MS with the flames, we would see the sages empowering it. Retconns are quite common in Zelda anyway: according to OoT the ToT was built by the Sages, but HH mentions only Rauru, and there are several other examples as well which personally make me (in general) skeptical about the validity of older canon. On a side note: according to HH, the Sages were guarding the mirror after the execution of Ganondorf took place (in page 113 of HH)! I also had the impression that they did so earlier. Anyway..
There is still the possibility of course that the ancient Sages co-created the Goddess Sword, but since it is not mentioned in SS, I don't think we should take it as a fact. Another interpretation could be that, since the sages are protectors (same as Hylia) their emblems were included in the temple. Zeldafan1982 21:23, 19 January 2012 (EST)
I went into the game expecting to see the Sages be involved in its creation, to be honest! I am hoping new translations from Hyrule Historia clears up the Master Sword's origin, but if it fails to mention the Sages, I guess we can assume it's a retcon. It doesn't really bother me, personally. Thankfully, Fi and her reference to "oral tradition" explains stuff like contradictory quotes on origin stories and legends. Glad we can agree! If Hyrule Historia makes any official clearance on the subject, then we cam simply source the quote in the article. :) Her Grace 15:10, 20 January 2012 (EST)

Interview regarding Ganon's death in Wind Waker

Can I ask where the interview you mentioned in this edit summary is? I don't doubt that such an interview exists, but I am interested in watching/reading/listing to it. --SnorlaxMonster 12:11, 9 November 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sure, here is a link for the interview The relevant part is towards the end of the interview. Zeldafan1982 13:52, 9 November 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Awesome, thanks. --SnorlaxMonster 03:49, 10 November 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Featured article voting

Hey, so Mandi brought up a good point here about our Featured Article and Image voting systems. I personally would like to see a change, but that just won't happen if no one says anything or voices their opinion. I'm asking you to please voice your opinion on changing the system so we can move forwards with proposing actual changes and actually GET somewhere with this. Please and thank you!User:Justin ZW/sig 04:37, 6 December 2012 (UTC)


Given your consistent, high quality edits and commitment to Zelda Wiki for over a year, the staff figured it was high time you were made autopatrol. Congrats! Hope you stick around and continue to be our Hyrule Historia/Timeline whiz for many days to come. :) — Hylian King [*] 23:57, 19 January 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wow, thanks. To be honest I didn't really expect that, since my wording usually is not on the level of other users here.. :) Anyway thanks and keep up the good work! Zeldafan1982 01:02, 20 January 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your work around here is very much appreciated, so I just wanted to drop in and say congrats! Happy editing! B) --Dany36 01:58, 20 January 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]


For this. To be honest, I was dreading having to do that myself and was saving it for last in the hopes that someone else would come in and do it. That person turned out to be you, so... mad props, man. :P — Hylian King [*] 00:14, 26 February 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No problem! It would have taken a lot of time if there weren't scans available. Now it's just copy - paste. By the way, I would have helped with the refs earlier, if I had received the book. It took some time until it came here..
You did most of the updating yourself so kudos to you :) Zeldafan1982 15:51, 26 February 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]


So you seem to be pretty skilled at editing and checking the recent changes. Well we just happen to be in the market for a patroller right now. You can see what it's all about here if you aren't familiar. If you're willing to do it, just let me know and I'll get you all set up with the staff stuff and the user rights. Cheers!User:Justin ZW/sig 22:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Hey, bro. I posted this message awhile ago, and I just wanted to follow up and make sure you weren't interested. If you are, I need to know ASAP, but otherwise I'd still like a response saying that you don't want the position. Thanks!User:Justin ZW/sig 04:35, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
I'll have to say that I'm not interested, thanks for the offer though :) Zeldafan1982 20:07, 5 March 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No problem! Just let me know if you ever change your mind!User:Justin ZW/sig 22:58, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Your awesome.

Your awesome. That all you need to know.Ankazar 20:34, 15 March 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

OGG files

Impressive work with those, Zeldafan! Is it not a satisfying feeling to see your name plastered all over the Recent Changes? :P

By the by, the patrollership offer still stands. If you're really not interested that's totally fine, but you'll understand our confusion seeing as you're talk:LoLdarkLoL&diff=prev&oldid=368807 practically doing the job already. — Hylian King [*] 16:54, 5 August 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks! I have a large collection of zelda music on my computer so.. I'm not really sure why I didn't do that earlier! Anyway, I'll upload some more. Link's Awakening comes next..
About the patrolling, thanks again for the offer. Part of the reason I don't want it is that I have a project to complete, which also requires some preparation. I should really be spending less time here :P I'll let you know though if things change. Zeldafan1982 17:50, 5 August 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fair enough. By the way, feel free to use Special:MultipleUpload for the OGGs. You won't be able to write unique summaries for each file, but it'll save you a lot of time. The summary is by far the least important part of FileInfo, anyway. — Hylian King [*] 21:59, 7 August 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm sorry to say that MultipleUpload is labeled as unmaintained and marked as a high-level vulnerability, which leaves the site wide open to parser-based scripting attacks. Until such time as it can be thoroughly examined and modified to meet appropriate security standards, I have removed it from the site. My apologies for the inconvenience.User:Justin ZW/sig 04:45, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about accidentally reverting your edit on Stalfos ;c

Sorry, I was reverting my edit because the image went horribly large and I accidentally reverted yours. --Classicperson409 (talk) 14:50, 31 August 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No problem, especially since you are a new user :) Zeldafan1982 (talk) 14:54, 31 August 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Something you might like

With the removal of multiupload, you may like this program. It's called the Commonist. Found here, the Commonist is a program for uploading multiple files to wikis. You just need to install and configure it, but you'll be able to use it to upload multiple files. It's really neat. Also, after the upload, it'll place all files in Special:MyPage/gallery. Give it a look.User:Justin ZW/sig 19:30, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

It sounds interesting! I'll check it out thanks :)
By the way, I encountered a weird problem with a gif. It's possible that other animated gifs have the same problem. Basically, I was searching for a Triforce gif and after looking the Triforce page I figured that we don't have one, but apparently we do, it just doesn't animate when it is placed inside a gallery. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 19:48, 13 September 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It seems that the image converter doesn't get along with animated gifs very well. I suppose we'll have to try to avoid using them for anything that requires them to be resized. There's really nothing I can do for that, other than try to find another image converter. I doubt that there's going to be anything out there that will really work for this, though. Animated gifs have always been something of a problem.User:Justin ZW/sig 20:30, 13 September 2013 (UTC)


I had no idea that I signed my name on the top of the page, XD, sorry about that. I did make that edit before I went to bed and I thought I gotten everything right, thanks for fixing it!! --Vaati The Wind Demon (talk) 15:19, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Heh, it's ok. It was only a small mistake. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 19:20, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Moved from Talk:Imprisoning War

On the facts against Ocarina of Time being the Imprisoning War, it says that in ALttP is says that no one could wield the Master Sword, but in OoT, Link can wield it. Should it be listed that it is possible that, since ALttP is in the Downfall Timeline, that maybe no one knew about Link? Because, if he failed at beating Ganondorf, then he probably wouldn't be remembered, right? ((:User:OcarinaToThePast))

Officially, OoT is the leadup to Ganon getting the Triforce; the Imprisoning War is a separate, later event. Technically, it also says no one worthy of the Master Sword, not no one capable of wielding it.
Personally, I think the whole thing is a missed opportunity, since FSA was originally going to be the Imprisoning War and there's no real reason it still couldn't be besides the Historia. I hope they retcon it.KrytenKoro (talk) 15:59, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There are some contradictions in both cases. (older revision). The best option for the IW was to be a separate event in order for these contradictions to be avoided. Of course, some retconing of the ALttP manual still had to occur. For instance, the manual says nothing about the Triforce being split (the concept wasn't canon at that point), whereas OoT says the opposite. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 16:22, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's not actually a contradiction, tho, just an omission, especially considering only the Sheikah could have predicted it would happen, and only Link, Zelda, and Ganon were there to confirm it.
As far as the past link -- no, those are all wrong. The Triforce doesn't need to be mentioned, and the ALttP manual specifically states that no one could wield the Master Sword. The "implied to be male" bit is just baseless sexism, the Dark World bit is again an omitted detail, not a contradiction, and the last bit -- there was no "Hero". There were heros, working with the Knights of Hyrule, and possibly being dubbed as part of them...FSA has no contradictions, and the fact that it doesn't specifically mention certain details is due to Nintendo specifically removing what they considered extraneous, boring overdetail.KrytenKoro (talk) 17:24, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The ALttP manual says that Ganon touched the Triforce and wished upon it. Clearly, the concept of the Triforce being split if touched by an unbalanced individual didn't exist back then. Also, why is there no mention of FSA Link or the Four Sword in the manual? Conversely, if the account in the manual is accurate, there should be an army of knights fighting along the Links in FSA. In addition, the Four Sword is not placed in the Dark World at the end of FSA. Anyway, this discussion belongs more to a forum. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 20:33, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It might, but I just want to correct a few things:
  1. The concept of it splitting is still factored into the Historia story, where it splits but is reunited by Ganon, basically meaning that OoT's adult story is inserted between "reaches the Triforce" and "wishes upon it". Not a contradiction, merely a clarification.
  2. There is an army of knights. You get the Royal Jewels from them. Technically, you also count as a small strike force.
  3. Why would it need to be placed there at the end? Things happen between the games, it could have been placed there later to hide Ganon's prison away from the rest of the world. Leads pretty dang nicely into the Four Sword being shattered in the Dark World of ALttP GBA, too.KrytenKoro (talk) 23:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  1. Historia's account is not compatible with the manual though (quite logical considering that it was written no less than 20 years before HH!), because according to the manual shortly after Ganon touched and (instantly) wished upon the Triforce, evil started flowing and then the IW occurs. In HH, there is a rather large gap ("many years") between Ganon touching the Triforce and the IW.
  2. There are only four of them in FSA though.
  3. Maybe, but this shows that FSA alone can't be the IW. It requires some additional speculation.
I don't think that treating the IW as a separate event is an inferior option, especially since there is no mention of a Link in the manual. Technically, one of the Knights could be the Link of that era, but still no mention of him, unlike the story of FSA. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 02:19, 7 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The manual definitely doesn't say anything about how quickly the evil began seeping from the Golden Land. Not the Japanese version, nor the NOA translation. That point's simply wrong. However...FSA implies (dictates?) that Ganondorf was reborn as a Gerudo (after being slain in TP). It could always have been (or be retconned to be) this Ganondorf that retrieved and used the completed Triforce, ignoring the question of why the manual omitted the adult story completely.
Neither the manual, the original Japanese, nor any later retelling says anything about how many knights there were. Four (or eight if you include the Links) would satisfy it. The Sages are the only ones to have been given a size.
It really only requires that the Four Sword be moved to the Sacred Realm after the end of FSA, which ALttP GBA already implies happened.KrytenKoro (talk) 03:28, 7 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, it doesn't say, but what's the implication? That many years passed? The way I see it, you are trying to apply context to the manual so that it fits the HH version. It's a mistake in my view, and I have seen other fans doing the same thing. You have to apply context to the story of the manual, as if OoT or Hyrule Historia don't exist, because these sources weren't available back then. For instance, I don't think that anyone reading the manual back in 1991 would assume that there was such a small number of knights, especially since the battle resulted in many casualties ("sacrifices"). Zeldafan1982 (talk) 04:11, 7 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The way the Japanese manual talks (not to mention OoT and FSA), the Knights seem very much like a small group, similar in size to the Sages. After all, armies aren't usually composed of knights, since knights come from the aristocracy.KrytenKoro (talk) 16:08, 7 February 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]