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my theory is that link was dead throughout the whole series and is finally awakend in breath of the wild and everything in the series was a dream
==The forums you link to don't work==
I clicked the links to the [https://zeldauniverse.net/forums/Board/16-General-Zelda/ forums] (because I REALLY want to share some useful tips of Breath of the Wild that a lot of people don't seem to realize) but there's no option to create a new thread. I am seeing threads there but the option to create new ones seems to have vanished since then. Is there something I'm missing?<br>Why did you have to shut down Zeldapedia? (You say "merged" but it wasn't a merge or anywhere close, just a shutdown of the superior Fandom site that has Discussion and forums and stuff that actually worked) At the very least couldn't you have started up some working forums or discussions up here? Why are you so determined that we cannot discuss Zelda games, or worse, ask for help with them? [[User:KillRoy231|KillRoy231]] ([[User talk:KillRoy231|talk]]) 22:52, 30 December 2020 (UTC)


==Various questions + Contacting the Staff/Getting Updated==
:Wait, they do work, you just have to make ANOTHER account. (That's what, three now?) [[User:KillRoy231|KillRoy231]] ([[User talk:KillRoy231|talk]]) 22:30, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
I was thinking that there should be (if plausible/reasonable, of course) more validation across the Wiki. For example, when uploading files, we could have a Placeholder attribute to example display the format required, or otherwise validation like [http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_input_pattern.asp the Pattern attribute] or js validation like [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/Forms/Data_form_validation#Validating_forms_without_a_built-in_API this] (or the rest of that webpage). The idea is inline/contextual help and/or prompts for when blocks of instructional text or the help guide (of which the relevant sections might be missed, or even missing certain details itself).
Some things I'm not sure if in the Help Guide include:
*Using capitalisation of the first letter of a template's name when using that template
*Not using underscores in links
*Using the Standard Initialism for (e.g.) "Cite manual" template
*That NA is preferred over EU version of a game when it differs
*Norms, e.g. [[User:Tony/Sandbox/ZW Norms]]
In terms of contacting the staff, what's the best method? I also realise ZUF exists, but doesn't seem frequently consistently used, or I still haven't figured out where all the action is.
Segueing, I also notice some "big" things were being discussed, but in the first place, I didn't know about it, though at that time I hadn't realised to use the Forum until recently. I was absent from ZW for a while, and noticed an update to the Wiki software or something, which included a title font change (I think...), Mobile site, and the "Online Users" on the Recent Changes page breaking (it shows <nowiki>{{#</nowiki>currentusers:}})


In summary:  
::Ok, so there's a lot to unpack here. First, for the Zelda Universe forums you'll have to contact someone on the head of the Zelda Universe team, as they will have most of the answers you're looking for. Here is the [https://discord.com/invite/zelda Zelda Universe Discord] if you need help over there.<br>Second, Zeldapedia merged with us because our site here was superior to the information there (we have more policies and standards that format the wiki) and a vote was taken across the community. The head of the merge, [[User:Ceiling Master|Ceiling Master]], was also the head bearucrat of Zeldapedia. [[Talk:Main Page#Reopen Zeldapedia on Fandom|Here's them responding to the same question]]. Again, we do not run Zelda Universe, that's a different community that we are close with. If you wish to join communities and discuss Zelda, you are free to join our [https://discord.gg/eJnnvYb Zelda Wiki Discord server]. Any wiki help you need can also be answered there. I implore you to do some research on the subject you are talking about before arguing with "superior Fandom site" and "stuff that actually worked" when it's quite the opposite. Like Ceiling Master said, there's no point to have two wikis on the same platform, and Zeldapedia may eventually be moved to a different URL under an archive. {{:User:MagicMason1000/sig}} 17:46, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
*A question about validation additions, and  
*A question of how to best gather information useful for a ZW contributor.
Thanks.


--{{:User:KokoroSenshi/sig}} 08:52, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
==Getting Notifications I don't want==
I see a notification every 10 minutes from this site, and I'm tired of it. Is there any way I can stop getting these notifications? [[User talk:Dogleader|Dogleader]] ([[User talk:Dogleader|talk]]) 12:27 August 18, 2021 (UTC)


:This isn't the first time you've come up with good ideas for custom features for the wiki. The best answer I can give you is that you should join the Zelda Wiki staff as a developer. You would have the support of the Zelda Wiki/Zelda Universe development team and it would put you in direct contact with all the wiki staff. (Not to mention we have quite the backlog of tasks and could use someone with your technical skills.) Short of that, the forums are indeed your best bet.
==Watchlist==
:About the upload form, I'd really like for us to have [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UploadWizard Extension:UploadWizard]. Custom code is the first thing to break when we upgrade (case in point, the "Online Users" thing). If there's a stable MediaWiki extension that could do the job, it's better to start with that. The only thing holding us back is that the extension doesn't currently support generation of custom templates, which we would need for [[Template:FileInfo]]. There is an [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51443 open task] for this which I hope to get to in the near future. {{:User:Hylian King/sig}} 02:24, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
::Thanks for replying. Thinking about it, joining as a developer sounds like a good idea; though in terms of technical skills (well, knowledge at least) I usually make it up as I go along, Google, etc., but if that's ok, I'd still like to join, or at least give it a try. --{{:User:KokoroSenshi/sig}} 12:43, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
:::We're all volunteers doing this for fun. A willingness to try things and learn is all we'd ask for in a developer. I'll send you an email with the details later this week. Is the email address in your [[Special:Preferences|preferences]] up to date? {{:User:Hylian King/sig}} 01:43, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
::::Awesome! Yes, I have checked that the email is up to date. --{{:User:KokoroSenshi/sig}} 12:14, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::Sent. {{:User:Hylian King/sig}} 14:36, 22 January 2017 (UTC)


==Userpage Problem==
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only way to access your watchlist is by going to the special pages first. I think it would be nice if there was an option elsewhere. One option would be at the bottom-left, along with the contributions, or at the top-right. A newbie may not know that the watchlist is on the special pages and also one click instead of two is better. [[User:Zeldafan1982|Zeldafan1982]] ([[User talk:Zeldafan1982|talk]]) 20:20, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
My userpage has external links, so it asks me to check if I'm not a robot. Okay, click save page after that, and it says I've edited my page too many times (once). Thinking nothing of it, I hit save page again anyway... to be brought back to the "I'm not a robot" thing. Save again, says I've edited my page too many times. Infinite loop. Can someone fix this?
[[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 05:13, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 
EDIT:Also, your <code>{{#currentusers:}}</code> code on the Recent Changes is broken. Been meaning to say something about that for a while now... [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 05:14, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 
:Hey Alex, thank you for reporting this. We've since disabled the "too many edits" filter due to its bugginess. You should be able to edit your userpage now.
:We are aware of the currentusers problem and it's on the to-do list. It's just not very high on the list is all. :P {{:User:Hylian King/sig}} 02:28, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
 
== New and unvalidated? ==
I tried adding a trivia info I came across few days ago, but it was removed. Why did it get removed? When I added the info, I did wonder where can I add my sources, but any other info didn't have sourcing. Just references to game quotes. {{Nosig|EBuddy|00:29, November 15, 2016‎}}
:You need a source to validate that trivia point, specifically the part where the Fishmen actually say that word. Without it, there's no way to prove that it's true and not just made up or pure speculation. Also, don't forget to sign your posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). {{:User:Chuck/sig}} 08:18, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 
==Judge the notability of this anecdote==
I saw a anecdote about an interview with Aonuma on Twitter today and thought I would at least notify it, even though I doubt it's notable enough. The source is [https://twitter.com/Willvs/status/822843220421967872 here], the tweet is in French and translates as “For the anecdote, I asked [Mr Aonuma] if The Witness could be considered as an “extreme Zelda”, but he didn't know the game :(”. [[User:Lunaramethyst|Lunaramethyst]] ([[User talk:Lunaramethyst|talk]]) 16:42, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
:Indeed a completely unrelated game to the series is not notable enough. {{:User:Chuck/sig}} 17:47, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 
== "GNU Free Documentation License" image link broken ==
 
At the bottom of every page is the "GNU Free Documentation License" icon (next to the "Powered by MediaWiki" icon), but shows no image.
 
The image url says the first below, but probably should be the latter:
:<code>/common/images/gnu-fdl.png</code>
:<code>/skins/common/images/gnu-fdl.png</code>
--{{:User:KokoroSenshi/sig}} 00:52, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 
:Noted. Thanks! The fix is ready, we're just having some issues deploying right now. It should be up soon. {{:User:Hylian King/sig}} 16:34, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 
== Deprecating wiki specific collapse JS ==
 
Hello together. I'm the tech guy from the Dota 2 Wiki and wanted to talk about the collapse function. I already pushed [https://zelda.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Template%3AComment&type=revision&diff=511415&oldid=509418 some changes] which were reverted for now, because they lacked a bit of communication and I rushed things.
 
To quote [[MediaWiki:Common.js]]:
: <code>@deprecated Since MediaWiki 1.20: Use class="mw-collapsible" instead which is supported in MediaWiki core.</code>
 
Would you be fine if I slowly phased out the deprecated functions? This would shrink down the JS by a good chunk and help to speed up the loading times. [[User:Molldust|Molldust]] ([[User talk:Molldust|talk]]) 18:49, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 
:By all means! As long as you make sure there are no regressions, of course. If you want to use AutoWikiBrowser for that, let me know and I'll add you to the list of authorized bots. [[User:HylianKing|HylianKing]] ([[User talk:HylianKing|talk]]) 15:56, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
 
::I will not use my bot until I have a bit more overview how the things are structured here. In case you want the Expand/Collapse text to be <nowiki>[show ▼]/[hide ▲]</nowiki>, you have to edit [[MediaWiki:Collapsible-expand]] and [[MediaWiki:Collapsible-collapse]] respectively. [[User:Molldust|Molldust]] ([[User talk:Molldust|talk]]) 06:13, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 
::: Both the "collapse" and "NavFrame" sections can now be removed from the JS file: [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] -> [https://pastebin.com/EYptUAVu Pastebin with the removed sections]. [[User:Molldust|Molldust]] ([[User talk:Molldust|talk]]) 09:56, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 
== ??? Page - Image Links Broken ==
There are several images on the character [[???]] page that are broken. My guess is that it's due to the fact that the image names contain question marks, but I don't know how to fix them.  Please look into when someone gets a chance. Thanks. - [[User:Protokhal|Protokhal]] ([[User talk:Protokhal|talk]]) 19:36, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
 
This is a known issue that we're trying to work through. Since the move to Gamepedia, we can no longer have question mark symbols or plus signs in file names. Please be patient while we sort out the best solution.[[User:Hylian pi|Hylian pi]] ([[User talk:Hylian pi|talk]]) 23:18, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
 
==Making Headlines More Readable==
Hi everyone! I'm fairly new to editing this wiki but have been an avid user and reader for a long while. Now that I'm also participating I noticed that many of the subheadlines (h3, h4) aren't that easy to read on a PC web browser. They don't really stand out that much from other text and there's no special spacing for them in the layout - it's especially notable when dealing with shorter sections of text. Have you ever considered tweaking them to make them a little more discernible? On mobile view, at least a line is added beneath the length of a subheadline, which is a nice effect and makes sections stand out more. -- [[User:Tadayou|Tadayou]] ([[User talk:Tadayou|talk]]) 13:58, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
:Hey Tadayou, thanks for the feedback! The header styles are something we never got around to improving, but there's no time like the present. :) The staff is on it. We'll try to figure out a decent design and get back to you. [[User:HylianKing|HylianKing]] ([[User talk:HylianKing|talk]]) 15:51, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

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The forums you link to don't work

I clicked the links to the forums (because I REALLY want to share some useful tips of Breath of the Wild that a lot of people don't seem to realize) but there's no option to create a new thread. I am seeing threads there but the option to create new ones seems to have vanished since then. Is there something I'm missing?
Why did you have to shut down Zeldapedia? (You say "merged" but it wasn't a merge or anywhere close, just a shutdown of the superior Fandom site that has Discussion and forums and stuff that actually worked) At the very least couldn't you have started up some working forums or discussions up here? Why are you so determined that we cannot discuss Zelda games, or worse, ask for help with them? KillRoy231 (talk) 22:52, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Wait, they do work, you just have to make ANOTHER account. (That's what, three now?) KillRoy231 (talk) 22:30, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Ok, so there's a lot to unpack here. First, for the Zelda Universe forums you'll have to contact someone on the head of the Zelda Universe team, as they will have most of the answers you're looking for. Here is the Zelda Universe Discord if you need help over there.
Second, Zeldapedia merged with us because our site here was superior to the information there (we have more policies and standards that format the wiki) and a vote was taken across the community. The head of the merge, Ceiling Master, was also the head bearucrat of Zeldapedia. Here's them responding to the same question. Again, we do not run Zelda Universe, that's a different community that we are close with. If you wish to join communities and discuss Zelda, you are free to join our Zelda Wiki Discord server. Any wiki help you need can also be answered there. I implore you to do some research on the subject you are talking about before arguing with "superior Fandom site" and "stuff that actually worked" when it's quite the opposite. Like Ceiling Master said, there's no point to have two wikis on the same platform, and Zeldapedia may eventually be moved to a different URL under an archive. — 𝐌𝐚𝐠𝐢𝐜𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐨𝐧𝟏𝟎𝟎𝟎 (𝐭𝐚𝐥𝐤) 17:46, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Getting Notifications I don't want

I see a notification every 10 minutes from this site, and I'm tired of it. Is there any way I can stop getting these notifications? Dogleader (talk) 12:27 August 18, 2021 (UTC)

Watchlist

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only way to access your watchlist is by going to the special pages first. I think it would be nice if there was an option elsewhere. One option would be at the bottom-left, along with the contributions, or at the top-right. A newbie may not know that the watchlist is on the special pages and also one click instead of two is better. Zeldafan1982 (talk) 20:20, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

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